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hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« on: November 03, 2023, 11:49:20 AM »
this is an excellent article and well worth the read
scary possibilities
but then thats what happens to people who think short term and only of themsleves

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2023, 01:35:45 PM »
Another State that will face decoupling, particularly if the trainers and drivers misbehave

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2023, 01:39:06 PM »
interesting but not surprising

for  every $1 of purse money in Ohio

15.2 cents comes from handle

84.8 cents comes from Slots

** I wonder what the ratio is in other states ?


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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2023, 01:50:59 PM »
Despite the swirling storm clouds, Renee Mancino, executive director of the Ohio Harness Horsemen’s Association, is optimistic.

“I’m positive that if we advertise, market and promote, we’ll bring the people in,” she said.



If you are so positive --- then why aren't you doing it ?? This is - one of  the dumbest comments and only shows you why Ohio, who has 15% of the their purses sustained by customer support --- has nuckleheads like Renee in key positions of a failing business.

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2023, 03:08:29 PM »
interesting but not surprising

for  every $1 of purse money in Ohio

15.2 cents comes from handle

84.8 cents comes from Slots

** I wonder what the ratio is in other states ?

About the same percentage

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2023, 03:19:18 PM »
Despite the swirling storm clouds, Renee Mancino, executive director of the Ohio Harness Horsemen’s Association, is optimistic.

“I’m positive that if we advertise, market and promote, we’ll bring the people in,” she said.



If you are so positive --- then why aren't you doing it ?? This is - one of  the dumbest comments and only shows you why Ohio, who has 15% of the their purses sustained by customer support --- has nuckleheads like Renee in key positions of a failing business.

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They need to form a committee and do a study first, than publish a paper and go up the chain of command to the top floor who will form another committee to study the situation.

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2023, 03:48:12 PM »
The hand writing has been on the wall a long time, took awhile for them to get Pompano Park, but they won in the end. How many casinos would love to be rid of racing, ALL of them. Think it might be far over the edge to bring it back. The day of advertising harness racing is in past. They have been saying for years "advertise, market and  promote" WTF have they been doing, whatever it is it hasn't worked yet. Harness racing will never be self sustaining like it is, Programs boring, too long, no energy, just like NASCAR. My kids and grandkids grew up around the horse business, they have no interest since I retired. They have better things to do than sit around for 3 or 4 hours and watch the same thing every 20 lol min.  they remember me warming up horses, not jogging around once. No ENTERTAINMENT

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2023, 11:38:27 PM »
interesting but not surprising

for  every $1 of purse money in Ohio

15.2 cents comes from handle

84.8 cents comes from Slots

** I wonder what the ratio is in other states ?

Ohio should be thankful it's that high compared to other states!

What about New York?  Look at all the tracks that do business there and look at the handles Buffalo, Batavia, Tioga, Vernon, Saratoga, Monticello, and Yonkers!  Did I miss a harness track?

Plainridge Park isn't any better with handle and look at the money they go for there. 

Not many if any good driving colonies too!

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2023, 10:14:57 AM »
A new word that will be worked into many harness racing conversations in '24  re: tracks, casinos, states, drugs, cheaters, sports betting house monsters, etc..

TEETERING
...as in 'teetering on the brink'.
...as in 'teetering on the brink of disaster'.

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2023, 10:41:53 AM »
Jai-Alai will probably outlast harness racing. Most of the players are Catholics and as everyone knows .....Catholics don't cheat!

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2023, 01:34:47 PM »
Reviewing Casino contracts is a  must nowadays! I would definitely check and see how many years are remaining on the contracts in my jurisdiction. It goes back to the old adage "You better look before you leap!

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2023, 03:46:31 PM »
Doin the math,and granted it might not parallel exactly, but a 20k race now at 15% would be $3000..Was wondering what Mike Campbell's thoughts were, or can't he 'HANDLE' the truth? Nice additions by the way, Also Eligible.


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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2023, 04:53:34 PM »
Doin the math,and granted it might not parallel exactly, but a 20k race now at 15% would be $3000..Was wondering what Mike Campbell's thoughts were, or can't he 'HANDLE' the truth? Nice additions by the way, Also Eligible.
I am not sure why you bring up Mike Campbell thoughts in here. Personally I find him to bring absolutely nothing to Plop discussions except his pompous, arrogant comments with no regard to anyone but his pathetic self. His actions on Plop are indicative of lifetime losers who think he being nasty and dumb will get himself some nonexistent attention. As I am sure many Ploppers would agree, I would rather to get Fuguzzi back who had some interesting lifetime experiences and stayed respectful of those who were deserving.

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Re: hru article "serious storm brewing in ohio"
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2023, 04:56:21 PM »
I am not sure why you bring up Mike Campbell thoughts in here. Personally I find him to bring absolutely nothing to Plop discussions except his pompous, arrogant comments with no regard to anyone but his pathetic self. His actions on Plop are indicative of lifetime losers who think he being nasty and dumb will get himself some nonexistent attention. As I am sure many Ploppers would agree, I would rather to get Fuguzzi back who had some interesting lifetime experiences and stayed respectful of those who were deserving.

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