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theokodjak26

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2023, 08:16:12 PM »
If you want to review bad handicapping tune into the FS1/2 Saratoga Racecourse NYRA show in the summer. These people are incredibly knowledgeable about the horses and the people responsible for their well being. They do all sorts of stories about the breeders, trainers and owners. It goes on and on how creative this show has been. Yet with all this most of the time they get it very wrong. Whether it is Jonathan Kinchen, professional handicapper, Gary Stevens or Richie Migliore ex-jocks etc they get it wrong many more times than an occasional winner, no real apologies. But if one of these people get one right the praise they bestow on each other is just over the top. You would think one of these guys found the cure for cancer. But no apologies 🤨

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2023, 09:35:27 PM »
If you want to review bad handicapping tune into the FS1/2 Saratoga Racecourse NYRA show in the summer. These people are incredibly knowledgeable about the horses and the people responsible for their well being. They do all sorts of stories about the breeders, trainers and owners. It goes on and on how creative this show has been. Yet with all this most of the time they get it very wrong. Whether it is Jonathan Kinchen, professional handicapper, Gary Stevens or Richie Migliore ex-jocks etc they get it wrong many more times than an occasional winner, no real apologies. But if one of these people get one right the praise they bestow on each other is just over the top. You would think one of these guys found the cure for cancer. But no apologies 🤨
To all of my friends, of course I don't expect Hollywood or anyone else to apologize for picking a loser. That's something we have to do to our wives ngc3 ngc3

But seriously as in the example I gave where you say you sense the horse is "on the verge of an historic performance" and then the horse goes out and can't function, at least say, as someone suggested in a self depricating way, "Boy, I messed that one up" and chuckle about it. makes him look more real and lightens the mood. No biggie!

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2023, 10:49:48 PM »
It's just an opinion..tv talent is to give info that is n I t on P rgram and discuss what is...giving their pucks is just extra...holy like all other talent try and do the same...it's nit about picking winners..yes that's nice but it ain't the gig

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2023, 02:42:10 AM »
Just last week at my local OTB, a former trainer asked me about Holly's handicapping.  I said Holly is a good historian but a poor handicapper.  It sounds as if most of you agree.

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2023, 01:05:55 PM »
The king of useless statistics is at it again.  Who in the listening audience cares if 37 or whatever of the entrants haven't won a race yet?  That's just one of a couple dozen already today and the races haven't even started yet.

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2023, 01:28:04 PM »
I remember him screaming obscenities at the driver on the way back to the paddock in the late 70s after blowing a bet. He was a rail bird.

Next thing I know he’s walking around with a jacket and tie on acting like a movie star.

Total joke

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2023, 02:26:34 PM »
Hollywood great guy. Nice to see his talents being used on a big stage again. Man, Holly must be hitting the early bird special at Perkin's near Hoosier Park. He's not the men's M / size 34 sportscoat these days  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3. That super cougar I saw him with at the sales is keeping him corn fed. No more Jersey crash diets for Holly  ngc3

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2023, 02:34:50 PM »
Yeah? I stood next to him for an hour at goshen on HOF day. He was alone, carrying a TJ Max bag with some papers in it. Looked like a frump and disinterested. On the souls of my children this is true.

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2023, 02:37:02 PM »
There is no room for analytics in horse racing

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2023, 02:40:12 PM »
HEYDEN IS TAPPIN A WEALTHY WIDOW OVER IN ANDERSON BY THE MEIJER'S! SHE'S GOOD LOOKIN FOR AN OLDER BROAD! DON'T SEE HIM UP AT THE RACES TOO MUCH. WHO CAN BLAME HIM WHEN HE'S GOT A SQUEEZE WAITING AT HOME FOR HIM?

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2023, 02:42:33 PM »
HEYDEN IS TAPPIN A WEALTHY WIDOW OVER IN ANDERSON BY THE MEIJER'S! SHE'S GOOD LOOKIN FOR AN OLDER BROAD! DON'T SEE HIM UP AT THE RACES TOO MUCH. WHO CAN BLAME HIM WHEN HE'S GOT A SQUEEZE WAITING AT HOME FOR HIM?
Good for him. Bad for her.

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2023, 02:45:09 PM »
Ha! You squeeze an older woman too hard and who knows what comes out 😀

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Re: Hollywood Haden Handicapping
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2023, 02:59:22 PM »
HEYDEN IS TAPPIN A WEALTHY WIDOW OVER IN ANDERSON BY THE MEIJER'S! SHE'S GOOD LOOKIN FOR AN OLDER BROAD! DON'T SEE HIM UP AT THE RACES TOO MUCH. WHO CAN BLAME HIM WHEN HE'S GOT A SQUEEZE WAITING AT HOME FOR HIM?
WTG Holly...Give her a wheel disc down the lane once for me  11.wp

 

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