Claiming Ethics

[theokodjak26]

I am not a trainer and would like to understand a few things about claiming. So it is obvious that trainers need horses to make a living. I also am aware that many trainers are more than willing to help other trainers when necessary in the paddock. But what happens when one trainer claims from another trainer he knows and has a good relationship? Is it just an accepted practice or do trainers get really pissed off?

[Fuguzzi]

If i knew the trainer or owners personally and cared about them, I told them first or usually talked my owner out of the claim. Or myself for that matter. If I didn't, i just did the claim and told no one. it's just business. Also, I never ever in my entire career, did a reclaim. if a horse was claimed from me that, was it. Once it left the barn, it left for good.

[Fuguzzi]

Very risky to let just anyone know you were claiming their horse. I heard some bad things about Frank Popfinger and ball peen hammers if you were claiming one of his horses.

[Parked]

Grudge claims are always a disaster.. 

[Generation XYZ]

Botton line is dont race in claimers if you dont want your horse claimed. in the TB game its rarely a problem in the SB game its like your supposed to let the horse bounce around the conditions without a hitch. Kind of BS in my opinion.

[Fuguzzi]

Botton line is dont race in claimers if you dont want your horse claimed. in the TB game its rarely you problem in the SB game its like your supposed to let the horse bounce around the conditions without a hitch. Kind of BS in my opinion.
[/quote    Essentially you are correct

[JIDGE]

Never said a word. Also, you only claim a horse you think you can improve -- so why would you claim off a friend or someone you respect.

[captain morgan]

At some tracks you'll have 1 claim a horse off someone then they're having dinner together after the races.

[Generation XYZ]

Never said a word. Also, you only claim a horse you think you can improve -- so why would you claim off a friend or someone you respect?

if you can improve it. why not? Again dont enter in claimers if you do not expect the horse to be claimed. Pretty simple, no?

[JIDGE]

At some tracks you'll have 1 claim a horse off someone then they're having dinner together after the races.

What planet is that track on?

[Generation XYZ]

What planet is that track on?

Saturn.  They do it all the time there...

[JIDGE]

if you can improve it. why not? Again dont enter in claimers if you do not expect the horse to be claimed. Pretty simple, no?

Agree about entering in a claimer, but if you claim off a friend I think you're sending him a message.

[Generation XYZ]

Agree about entering in a claimer, but if you claim off a friend I think you're sending him a message.

Well maybe true to that.

[theokodjak26]

Does it cause more conflict claiming at a smaller track say the Meadowlands where it is expected? I mean unless I’m not paying attention there isn’t a lot of claiming at Monticello.

[JIDGE]

Does it cause more conflict claiming at a smaller track say the Meadowlands where it is expected? I mean unless I’m not paying attention there isn’t a lot of claiming at Monticello.

Very, very rarely is there a horse worth claiming at Monticello these days.