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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2023, 09:01:17 PM »
Well if you ask Greg Peck he should be there as the greatest Trainer/ Driver.

then there is the real greats...

Calloway
Cardinal
Kerington
Haughton
Campbell
Filion
Merriman (by accomplishments alone).
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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2023, 09:08:47 PM »
Well if you ask Greg Peck he should be there as the greatest Trainer/ Driver.

then there is the real greats...

Calloway
Cardinal
Kerington
Haughton
Campbell
Filion
Merriman (by accomplishments alone).
I never saw Calloway, Cardinal or Kerington drive so I can't agree or disagree. Campbell and Filion for sure. If you are putting Merriman in by accomplisment alone, I think Dave Palone should be ahead of him.

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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2023, 09:19:50 PM »
I never saw Calloway, Cardinal or Kerington drive so I can't agree or disagree. Campbell and Filion for sure. If you are putting Merriman in by accomplisment alone, I think Dave Palone should be ahead of him.

Makes sense. I would agree on that as well.
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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2023, 11:55:56 PM »
Makes sense. I would agree on that as well.

Well then perhaps Dickie Stilings shoud be mentioned. I sent Dickie some nice claimers who got over the  tartan surface quite well.  I think Dickie drove well enough to stick with Dave Palone, after all he  won two jugs, back to back I think for Royal Travel with the Spur horses. Horses I sent him were for enhancing my bank account. They werecheap claimers racing against cheaper claimers

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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #79 on: October 04, 2023, 12:29:39 AM »
Chicago Mt Rushmore
1- Tony Morgan
2- Joe Marsh Jr
3- Walter Paisley
4- Daryl Busse
Honorable mention Dave Magee and Gene Vallandingham
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« Reply #80 on: October 04, 2023, 12:56:44 AM »
Well then perhaps Dickie Stilings shoud be mentioned. I sent Dickie some nice claimers who got over the  tartan surface quite well.  I think Dickie drove well enough to stick with Dave Palone, after all he  won two jugs, back to back I think for Royal Travel with the Spur horses. Horses I sent him were for enhancing my bank account. They werecheap claimers racing against cheaper claimers
Dave Palone has won 20,000 races. Once again, 20,000.

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« Reply #81 on: October 04, 2023, 01:14:08 AM »
True. But about 150 of them were East of Scranton. I was there when he tried a couple whacks at the Big M mid 80s. Campbell, O'donnell, Moiseyev, et al sent him back to farm country quick. Still 20,000 in 40 years is a major accomplishment! Great durability and consistency

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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #82 on: October 04, 2023, 01:17:49 AM »
True. But about 150 of them were East of Scranton. I was there when he tried a couple whacks at the Big M mid 80s. Campbell, O'donnell, Moiseyev, et al sent him back to farm country quick. Still 20,000 in 40 years is a major accomplishment! Great durability and consistency
Very true but he was comparing him to Dick Stillings. He was a decent driver and a real good trainer but Dave Palone has won 20,000 races.

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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #83 on: October 04, 2023, 01:19:47 AM »
Gotcha. That's like comparing ME to Brad Pitt in the looks department.

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« Reply #84 on: October 04, 2023, 01:24:32 AM »
Gotcha. That's like comparing ME to Brad Pitt in the looks department.
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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #85 on: October 04, 2023, 12:28:03 PM »
Chicago Mt Rushmore
1- Tony Morgan
2- Joe Marsh Jr
3- Walter Paisley
4- Daryl Busse
Honorable mention Dave Magee and Gene Vallandingham
I never quite got on the Morgan bandwagon. I used to love betting Balmoral and made nice profits going with Oostings over Morgan. Had the same luck with Sears over Palone at the Meadows. They would both strategically nail the bigshot at the finish.

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« Reply #86 on: October 04, 2023, 01:09:27 PM »
For tony Morgan to be second all time in wins with way over 17,000 and not be in the HOF because of a long standing bias out of Columbus due to his feuds with Bergstein and Pines is fucking BS and an embarassment. How do we as an industry not recognize a guy with that kind of win total with enshrinement? Makes a mockery of the whole thing!

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« Reply #87 on: October 04, 2023, 01:32:17 PM »
For tony Morgan to be second all time in wins with way over 17,000 and not be in the HOF because of a long standing bias out of Columbus due to his feuds with Bergstein and Pines is fucking BS and an embarassment. How do we as an industry not recognize a guy with that kind of win total with enshrinement? Makes a mockery of the whole thing!
Hard to deny a man with 17,000+ wins. Does anyone know what his biggest win was?

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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #88 on: October 04, 2023, 02:38:22 PM »
Jugette, Woodrow Wilson, US Pacing Championship with Ball And Chain among others according to bio. I remember the Ball and Chain win.

Was just checking his bio  First driver in history to reach 850 win plateau with 853. Walter got 843 the year before.

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Re: WHO SHOULD BE ON THE MT. RUSHMORE OF DRIVERS?
« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2023, 03:12:07 PM »
Jugette, Woodrow Wilson, US Pacing Championship with Ball And Chain among others according to bio. I remember the Ball and Chain win.

Was just checking his bio  First driver in history to reach 850 win plateau with 853. Walter got 843 the year before.
No triple crown wins may be an issue.

 

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