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After talking to a few people around the barns everyone says owners then caretakers then trainers last. They said a lot of trainers don't bet at all.
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Re: Who bets the most on their horses ? caretakers/ trainers/ owners.
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2023, 05:36:31 AM »
If one of my horses had trained well and I thought he had a good shot, I would bet (sometimes quite heavily) and let the driver know (in the paddock) he owned 20% of the bet (some drivers wanted nothing to do with it, however).  If the horse won I would usually buy the trainer (and his/her spouse/date) some "special dinners" and make sure the groom got a few Benjamins.  Most of the time this would only be at Meadowlands, Yonkers or Roosevelt back from 1971 through 1995 when the handles were huge.  At most other tracks I kept my hands in my pockets.  I never owned more than 3 horses at a time, and usually just one or two who competed at high-level conditioned trots; only one pacer, which Herve was the dedicated driver for.

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2023, 05:51:56 AM »
As an owner for many years, the only information I asked my trainer was did the horse jog/train good, how is he feeling, et al.  I NEVER asked for any information about if we got a shot or not.  My trainer would say things like he fits in this class, has a shot, and should be good.  With this 'information', I would tread lightly and go to the windows.  My trainer only told me this three over the years and all 3 times, the respective horses won and paid between 10-15 dollars on a 2 dollar win ticket.   It wasn't worth a potential argument with the trainer if he said bet the horse and the horse raced poorly!

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Re: Who bets the most on their horses ? caretakers/ trainers/ owners.
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2023, 06:32:39 AM »
harness - owners

thoroughbred - trainers

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2023, 08:18:24 AM »
I remember a few years back a NEW horse partner of mine had won some $ at the casino at Scioto so he went out to the betting windows and bet a $100 exacta on our horse. The horse went off in a later race and won with the correct exacta. He went to the window to cash out  only to find he never told the teller the later race number so the the ticket was worthless.

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2023, 08:40:13 AM »
Thats why the signs say check all tickets prior to leaving the windows   sorry for your partner

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2023, 08:48:59 AM »
Thats why the signs say check all tickets prior to leaving the windows   sorry for your partner
He was new to the sport and the betting windows.

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2023, 09:15:43 AM »
I understand   wasn't trying to sound like a dick   Just pointing out the cruel ways we are forced to learn lessons.

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2023, 09:32:02 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2023, 01:28:56 PM »
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Re: Who bets the most on their horses ? caretakers/ trainers/ owners.
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2023, 02:10:20 PM »
After talking to a few people around the barns everyone says owners then caretakers then trainers last. They said a lot of trainers don't bet at all.

how about the on-air handicappers and track announcers ?

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2023, 02:47:22 PM »
Why are "drivers" not one of the choices?

Monti, especially during the age of $1,200 purses, had the drivers betting much of the $$$$$. And not necessarily on themselves!

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2023, 04:43:04 PM »
Why are "drivers" not one of the choices?

Monti, especially during the age of $1,200 purses, had the drivers betting much of the $$$$$. And not necessarily on themselves!
I was talking about current times not before the 5%.  Back then probably the drivers did bet the most.

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