If Ohio is the 'upcoming' state to breed/race in, how come....

[rainman2]

there are no discussions/plans to build/modify a track to a 7/8 or a 1 mile track?  Would be great competition to Indiana and Pennsylvania to see who would breed/race there!

[Generation XYZ]

there are no discussions/plans to build/modify a track to a 7/8 or a 1 mile track?  Would be great competition to Indiana and Pennsylvania to see who would breed/race there!

Say what??? Diamond Creek, Hanover Shoe Farms are a few that have been breeding there the past 7 years. Where have you been?

[rainman2]

Say what??? Diamond Creek, Hanover Shoe Farms are a few that have been breeding there the past 7 years. Where have you been?

Sorry, I don't pay that close attention to this.  I did my 'one time' breeding of horses years ago.

[Generation XYZ]

Sorry, I don't pay that close attention to this.  I did my 'one time' breeding of horses years ago.

Just saying. Takter sent and is partners in many standing in Ohio as well.

[Brown jug]

spinning their wheels until the get a 7/8 or mile track
very poor leadership to not have one by now or one planned

[rainman2]

spinning their wheels until the get a 7/8 or mile track
very poor leadership to not have one by now or one planned

new track or remodeling one still currently racing?

[Swandre]

how necessary is it? Pennsylvania doesn’t have one

[rainman2]

how necessary is it? Pennsylvania doesn’t have one

Ohio racing was 'dead in the water' until the VLT'S saved it!  FYI, Pennsylvania racing has gone downhill over the years too!  New York only has 1 'big track' and that track is 'near extinction'.  New York racing only thrives because of the VLT'S, while the Sires Stakes program is in shambles (just like harness racing). The problem with Indiana is that it is Hoosier or bust outside the fairs! 

[Generation XYZ]

Ohio has been growing for 10 years. Its the dominate state to harness race in. KY is starting to flourish but not quite there. When you rely on VLTS to bolster purse funds. its a short term fix to a dying industry.

[Brown jug]

pennsylvania going down the tubes but still has quality sires, especially on the pacing side
kentucky will dominate in 3 years or less
 for ohio i would remodel dayton just based on location
when we talk about a big track it is for the gamblers not necessarily the horseman or the sires programs
to attract big $$  you cant race on halfs or even 5/8

[Generation XYZ]

pennsylvania going down the tubes but still has quality sires, especially on the pacing side
kentucky will dominate in 3 years or less
 for ohio i would remodel dayton just based on location
when we talk about a big track it is for the gamblers not necessarily the horseman or the sires programs
to attract big $$  you cant race on halfs or even 5/8

I dont think Hollywood Casino agrees. They built Dayton and Mahoning Valley about 5 years apart and in duplicate. They have the model down every where.

[Eight Hole Again]

I apologize if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that when Miami Valley and then Dayton Raceway were built the OHHA and Ohio Racing Commission tried to get a mile or 7/8 mile track built but the owners (casinos) refused. One said they did not have enough land for such a track. Anybody remember this?

[Mailbox Money]

Ohio does not need a mile track. The breeders love the blistering marks on the smaller tracks,especially Nfld when the pylons come in a foot when they  have Stakes races. In Ohio you go fast or stay home.Making money is no longer an art,it's a SCIENCE now.! In more ways than one.

[Brown jug]

good points and you are not wrong
but again this is based on breeders , owners  etc viewpoint
relatively inexpensive horses going for big money
but no respect for the gambling side  and how to grow it
so i guess as long as they have no desire or need to grow the wagering part than its all good

[rainman2]

good points and you are not wrong
but again this is based on breeders , owners  etc viewpoint
relatively inexpensive horses going for big money
but no respect for the gambling side  and how to grow it
so i guess as long as they have no desire or need to grow the wagering part than its all good

With the upswing in Ohio racing as well as the downswing of Pennsylvania and Indiana, the days of the relatively inexpensive horses racing for big money could be coming to an end.  This will not preclude the small/1 time breeders that will be chasing their dreams.