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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2023, 05:35:34 PM »
Back about 10 years ago, then Gov. Cuomo was throwing a temper tantrum about the Oneida Nation not paying the state a dime in the agreed tax schedule. So, Andy put together a deal that gave the Oneida Indian Nation exclusive rights to a vast market. A market that handcuffed Vernon Downs and their casino. It also Gerrymandered the voting districts to give almost exclusive control to his Democratic party.
 It was so favoring the Indians, Vernon could not even advertise in neighboring counties. Yet, The Oneida Nation could do as they please even, advertise in front of Vernon downs.
Vernon Racino got the kiss of death 10 years ago. It has been granted concessions from the state for reduced taxes, giving it a couple years of life. But, at an age of almost 80 with no apparent heirs interested in a country casino that has a clientele of almost the same age, time to let it all go.
 But don't kid yourself, nobody before Jeffery and nobody after him will give what he has given to VD.
 Time waits for no one.

Heís given exactly zero to Vernon Downs.   Its the exact same building that looks the exact same as it did the day he took over.   The racino was already built, every bit of whatís there was there aside from his bullshit tote board upgrades that just covered up parts that he didnít want to spend a few thousand to fix.

All he did was take over with a clean license compared to the prior ownership.   He settled the debts of the old owners for pennies on the dollar with the promise of future business to those left short.   95% of those never got a penny of work and were told their prices were to high.

Just like retail theft when someone shorts a business the price for the other customers goes up.   Jeff wants everything given to him while he pads his legacy with what heís stealing from everyone he can.   

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2023, 05:41:14 PM »
Heís given exactly zero to Vernon Downs.   Its the exact same building that looks the exact same as it did the day he took over.   The racino was already built, every bit of whatís there was there aside from his bullshit tote board upgrades that just covered up parts that he didnít want to spend a few thousand to fix.

All he did was take over with a clean license compared to the prior ownership.  He settled the debts of the old owners for pennies on the dollar with the promise of future business to those left short.   95% of those never got a penny of work and were told their prices were to high.

Just like retail theft when someone shorts a business the price for the other customers goes up.   Jeff wants everything given to him while he pads his legacy with what heís stealing from everyone he can.

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2023, 08:33:37 PM »
its a money pit ,nobody else would still be open
we are luck he stayed ope this long,does anyone think they could do better?

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2023, 08:48:47 PM »
its a money pit ,nobody else would still be open
we are luck he stayed ope this long,does anyone think they could do better?

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2023, 04:53:23 AM »
Lest we forgetÖ..Gural doesnít even own the slots at Vernon. Early on, when he battled the state for a fairer cut, he said; if I close Vernon Iíll shutter Tioga (when it was still a racino) as well. The state replied theyíd keep operating their slots anyway. Guralís question to to them was WHERE? Not on my property. He got his deal that time.

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2023, 08:02:04 AM »
If the decision-makers are Democrats, he'll get what he wants and more.

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2023, 08:32:02 AM »
What he wants is to close.

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2023, 08:38:06 AM »
AndÖ..he cares about the employees of both.


These quotes are from someone that used to work for Mr. Gural.
"Gural cares so much about the employees that they can't get a warm meal on a high business volume day because they don't have a proper employee dining room."

"When alerted by his staff about his toxic workplace he looked his suits in the face, promised to fix it and forbade his supervisors/pit managers to be part of the union. Tioga is the only casino of the 4 state controlled casinos without a union. As a result they're by far the lowest paid in NYS."

"When meeting a couple that came here from DelLago, when they found out I came from Tioga the first words out of the wife's mouth was "you were grossly underpaid weren't you?" How embarrassing."

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2023, 08:38:42 AM »
If the decision-makers are Democrats, he'll get what he wants and more.

He (Geff "Toto" Jural) donates to both sides of the aisle but the majority Dems for sure, NY, NYS is heavily weighted Dems obviously, he personally goes in this direction I dunno, but his biz interests are there so he has too.  They all  11.zq   , dems and repubs, you do this from me, I do that for you! 

He donated $66k to this thing called the "HILLARY VICTORY FUND" in 2016, how did that work out?!  ngc3  I could of swayed that money to Horseplop and PIGLAND for all the time his people spend here advocating and hawking!   73cv.2

Where all his money political money goes:
https://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/jeffrey-gural.asp?cycle=16

Please don't convince me the dems and repubs don't both suck, you'll lose royally!  I can't stand them equally!   ;D
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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2023, 08:49:26 AM »
I guess you missed the part where he was appointed Director of the Public Buildings Reform Board, by President Biden.
 His 100% democrat.

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2023, 09:05:11 AM »
I guess you missed the part where he was appointed Director of the Public Buildings Reform Board, by President Biden.
 His 100% democrat.

And Trump pardoned Blagovich... 73cv.2

Biden's list of political appointees....mos tly dems, but repubs too....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_appointments_by_Joe_Biden

Bro, the DNC, RNC, Toto Jural, could fall into a volcano and if they survived the lava there should be starving crocodiles waiting at the bottom....problem is once you pick a side they become your eyes and ears and your life is in their hands.....that's for dumb people, I'm excused!   ;D
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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2023, 05:41:44 AM »
I guess you missed the part where he was appointed Director of the Public Buildings Reform Board, by President Biden.
 His 100% democrat.

One of his best political buddies, as it relates to harness racing, was Senator Libous R (deceased)

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2023, 08:51:44 AM »
One of his best political buddies, as it relates to harness racing, was Senator Libous R (deceased)

Donít forget Harrison (Pete) Williams

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2023, 02:58:24 PM »
Here's a solution.  Vote Republican and be in the pluses +++

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Re: Jeff Gural is Threatening to close Vernon Downs
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2023, 09:57:45 PM »
Why doesn't anybody here find out how much money is in the horseman's purse account?  Rumor has it there is a decent amount there.  If Vernon does close, the horsemen racing there better drain that account to zero, otherwise another potential scandal could occur!

 

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