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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2022, 06:57:34 PM »
Yes, he's has so many good Seasides this year. He probably will sweep the 1st leg of the Sires Stakes next  Sat. also.  1.50 is grand circuit material. I doubt if last yrs champion gulf shores can beat that.

Colt hasnít even qualified back yet has he?

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2022, 10:24:20 PM »
Colt hasnít even qualified back yet has he?
Probably will miss 1st leg of Sires Stakes.

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2022, 05:13:24 PM »
Burke racing & the partners want every last penny. Their greed is bad for the game. It has accelerated the exodus of the few fans that were left.

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2022, 02:43:38 PM »
Same thing, big stables take all the money leave scraps. Think back, it has been that way forever. Both stakes and overnights. The top stables at every track didn't leave much for the small guy. Gee, Seems it was Haughton, Dancer, Miller etc then the Swedes Aussies and Kiwis. It's all about how much you can afford to loose.

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2022, 03:27:58 PM »
GOOD FOR BURKE, DOING THINGS THE AMERICAN WAY.

FACE FACTS A LOT OF THESE UNDERFUNDED MA & PA STABLE OUTFITS JUST HOLD THE INDUSTRY BACK. FORCING TRACKS TO WRITE RACES FOR JUNK HORSES, THE NEVER WAS, NEVER WILL BE RACE HORSES, YEA LET'S BRING BACK THE 2:10 MILES, JUST LIKE BACK IN THE GOOD OLD DAY

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2022, 08:09:25 PM »
What if the money generated in each state for the stake purses stayed in the same state. That would be a new concept. Let's say for Ohio a horse must be Sired and 100% Ohio owned to be eligible to race in any Ohio stake races. All states would have the exact same requirements. Only the Grand Circuit would be open to anyone from anywhere.
I have always questioned the B and C level casino tracks that race for good money and a couple of times a year will have Invitationals that will go for 100k 200k ++ and if these type of races are really necessary.

As on track handle falls faster than the Titanic and racetrack operations have shifted their business model to online as it obvious by the post time drags and the lack of upgrade in facilities --- Then Why give hundreds of thousands of purse money that is going to be snatched up by out of town trainers / in many cases out of town drivers / out of town owners --- instead of putting that money back into the purse account for the local horsemen and writing series that are dedicated to horsemen that race at that track or that state ?

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2022, 06:14:01 AM »
I have always questioned the B and C level casino tracks that race for good money and a couple of times a year will have Invitationals that will go for 100k 200k ++ and if these type of races are really necessary.

As on track handle falls faster than the Titanic and racetrack operations have shifted their business model to online as it obvious by the post time drags and the lack of upgrade in facilities --- Then Why give hundreds of thousands of purse money that is going to be snatched up by out of town trainers / in many cases out of town drivers / out of town owners --- instead of putting that money back into the purse account for the local horsemen and writing series that are dedicated to horsemen that race at that track or that state ?
I still say all stakes should be written sired and 100 owned in that state. Keep the money where it came from.

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2022, 07:54:18 AM »
I still say all stakes should be written sired and 100 owned in that state. Keep the money where it came from.

THEN CASINOS, GOD BLESS THEM, SHOULD BAND ALL OUT OF STATERS FROM GAMBLING IN OHIO. LET YOU CRYBABIES LIVE OFF WHAT YOUR OWN PEOPLE SPEND
. OHIO BILLIES ONLY

MAN PEOPLE LIKE THE ABOVE IDIOT ARE JUST PLAIN FOOLS


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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2022, 11:03:12 AM »
THEN CASINOS, GOD BLESS THEM, SHOULD BAND ALL OUT OF STATERS FROM GAMBLING IN OHIO. LET YOU CRYBABIES LIVE OFF WHAT YOUR OWN PEOPLE SPEND
. OHIO BILLIES ONLY

MAN PEOPLE LIKE THE ABOVE IDIOT ARE JUST PLAIN FOOLS


NO ID, NO ENTRY.
Go back to the hole from where you came from

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2022, 06:05:50 PM »
The Ohio racing commission has failed to do their stated mission: "dedicated to the protection, preservation and promotion of horse racing and its related industry components. . . . shall use its best efforts to promote horse racing and breeding TO THE CITIZENS OF OHIO". Having said that, it seem the trainers should also be Ohio citizens, that is, permanent residents. Trainers hire grooms and second trainers, buy hay, feed, straw in Ohio, rent stalls, build barns, etc., and pay taxes in Ohio. So not only owned and bred in Ohio, but also trained in Ohio.  This idea has been tossed around for a few years, but the OSRC has done nothing to mandate this, and consequently nothing to promote racing for the citizens of Ohio.  If anyone reading this is serious about stopping what is going on in Ohio, contact the OSRC. The number is 614-466-2757.  We cannot change the rules this year, but changes are badly needed to keep harness racing in Ohio - even for the little guys.

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2022, 06:34:26 PM »
The Ohio racing commission has failed to do their stated mission: "dedicated to the protection, preservation and promotion of horse racing and its related industry components. . . . shall use its best efforts to promote horse racing and breeding TO THE CITIZENS OF OHIO". Having said that, it seem the trainers should also be Ohio citizens, that is, permanent residents. Trainers hire grooms and second trainers, buy hay, feed, straw in Ohio, rent stalls, build barns, etc., and pay taxes in Ohio. So not only owned and bred in Ohio, but also trained in Ohio.  This idea has been tossed around for a few years, but the OSRC has done nothing to mandate this, and consequently nothing to promote racing for the citizens of Ohio.  If anyone reading this is serious about stopping what is going on in Ohio, contact the OSRC. The number is 614-466-2757.  We cannot change the rules this year, but changes are badly needed to keep harness racing in Ohio - even for the little guys.
Totally agree. Ohio horseman need to wise up to the fact that their livelihood is methodically being taken from them. If people from other states want to spend their money at Ohio casinos that's fine. But that money allocated to Ohio racing should be used to promote Ohio.
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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2022, 10:16:06 PM »
just another commission that has failed
of course it depends where you are in the pecking order in ohio
right now breeders are loving burke and others bidding up their horses, especially the seasides
and the drivers will gladly drive one of the many burke horses in each race
but the other  trainers and smaller owners are getting crushed
so some breeders and drivers enjoying the ride, other small breeders and trainers not so much
and now and more so in the next few years the prices for poorly bred ohio horses will sell for nothing because people know they can beat burke




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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2022, 10:16:40 AM »
The Ohio racing commission has failed to do their stated mission: "dedicated to the protection, preservation and promotion of horse racing and its related industry components. . . .
protection - drug testing program is horrible
protection - does the customer feel protected ?  ( speaking of the gambler although horsemen feel like they are
     the customer )
Promotion --- What a Joke...
   Allow tracks to switch to day time / week day racing --- that's promoting
   Allow Miami Valley to build a flat grandstand... There's promoting the product, look up and watch it on TV
   Allow Scioto for YEEEEEEeeeears get away with no grandstand.

Racing Comission are a bunch state politicians that like bobble heads, nod their heads up and down to whatever the casino wants.
For that Matter -- OHHA is not much different. Wouldn't it be beneficial to try and grow the product ? Isn't that the goal of any business ? Yet in harness racing in
Ohio -- we continue to go backwards.
race afternoon
race weekdays only
facilities are a dump -- been to Northfield ? If your answer was I was there 20 years ago, bingo, it hasn't changed.
Protections of local Ohio Horsemen ?  ngc3

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2022, 02:00:31 PM »
You hillbillies just figuring this out, you had your heads in your asses for years. It's ok for Ohio owners to go to any other state but if you are not a resident of Ohio you can't race. That is just plain STUPID. What you expect from the state that gave us Roger the louse

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Re: run for the hills in ohio
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2022, 04:50:10 PM »
protection - drug testing program is horrible
protection - does the customer feel protected ?  ( speaking of the gambler although horsemen feel like they are
     the customer )
Promotion --- What a Joke...
   Allow tracks to switch to day time / week day racing --- that's promoting
   Allow Miami Valley to build a flat grandstand... There's promoting the product, look up and watch it on TV
   Allow Scioto for YEEEEEEeeeears get away with no grandstand.

Racing Comission are a bunch state politicians that like bobble heads, nod their heads up and down to whatever the casino wants.
For that Matter -- OHHA is not much different. Wouldn't it be beneficial to try and grow the product ? Isn't that the goal of any business ? Yet in harness racing in
Ohio -- we continue to go backwards.
race afternoon
race weekdays only
facilities are a dump -- been to Northfield ? If your answer was I was there 20 years ago, bingo, it hasn't changed.
Protections of local Ohio Horsemen ?  ngc3
The casino subsidies are the only reason this dying industry isn't back to being just a fair pastime.

 

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