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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2021, 01:29:26 AM »
Whip to win

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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2021, 08:41:55 PM »
A little over a month ago in Australia in the $450,000 Grade One at Gloucester Vultin Tin beat Chicago Bull.   The driver of Vultin Tin was fined $1200 and given a 7 day suspension for "unacceptable whip". The driver of Chicago Bull was also fined $750 for the same thing.

I watched the stretch drive and didn't think that much of it. Some places treat it a lot harder than we do.
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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2021, 09:27:49 AM »
How about a link to that race? Would love to see the stretch run.

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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2021, 05:19:02 PM »
Here's a link to that day's card.  It was the 6th race.  There is a play button on the top right of the results of that race

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP041220#GPM04122003

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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2021, 09:12:36 AM »
As long as drivers carry a whip, there will always be controversy.  I have been driving horses for 50 years and can tell you that some horses surely need a wake up call but how the pilot can deliver it is the question.  The great ones,  always knew how to do it without much fanfare.  I remember Herve would come back with a horse and you would never even see him whipping however inside the right stifle, you would find 3 surgical like lacerations.  Other drivers would be sure to get a horses respect or attention before the start so that just the threat of the whip will make a horse go on.  I have told clients to put on another driver because I felt the horse was cheating on me and they needed someone to wake them up!  Some drivers are definitely better on rats that don't try.  I've gotten a few whip infractions over the years and yes they were well deserved as they were often administered out of frustration because I was displeased with a horses effort.  Todays drivers have developed a technique where they can lay into one while keeping both hands in the handholds!  I guess there will always be controversy and rules which,  by the way,  vary from track to track and it is wise to bone up on them before the race as it can get very expensive.  The one thing that I can say for certain is that carrying a whip is mandatory as any driver that lost his early in the race can attest.  Slapping one with the lines will only get you so far!

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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2021, 09:21:59 AM »
As long as drivers carry a whip, there will always be controversy.  I have been driving horses for 50 years and can tell you that some horses surely need a wake up call but how the pilot can deliver it is the question.  The great ones,  always knew how to do it without much fanfare.  I remember Herve would come back with a horse and you would never even see him whipping however inside the right stifle, you would find 3 surgical like lacerations.  Other drivers would be sure to get a horses respect or attention before the start so that just the threat of the whip will make a horse go on.  I have told clients to put on another driver because I felt the horse was cheating on me and they needed someone to wake them up!  Some drivers are definitely better on rats that don't try.  I've gotten a few whip infractions over the years and yes they were well deserved as they were often administered out of frustration because I was displeased with a horses effort.  Todays drivers have developed a technique where they can lay into one while keeping both hands in the handholds!  I guess there will always be controversy and rules which,  by the way,  vary from track to track and it is wise to bone up on them before the race as it can get very expensive.  The one thing that I can say for certain is that carrying a whip is mandatory as any driver that lost his early in the race can attest.  Slapping one with the lines will only get you so far!

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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2021, 10:46:32 AM »
The meadowlands has a brutal policy and tough fines.   Wonder if they will follow through with it

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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2021, 11:30:47 AM »
The meadowlands has a brutal policy and tough fines.   Wonder if they will follow through with it

  They only let certain cheats drop in the box, so who knows?

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Re: Excessive Whipping
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2021, 11:37:32 AM »
I must not be on the good cheat list.  been trying to drop in for 3 weeks now

 

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