Excessive Whipping

[Winsome]

Amazing how Dan Rawlings at The Meadows is allowed to get away with excessive and abusive whipping

[Rabbi Of Racing]

Dan drives the way a person is supposed to , blood and hair on the whip , going all out , good to see 

[Fatboy]

Dan drives the way a person is supposed to , blood and hair on the whip , going all out , good to see 

BEN HUR YES

[Jazzman]

i agree leave the drivers alone let them drive

[Winsome]

So you’re ok with horses being abused

[Winsome]

We’re talking about a specific driver with very little talent. PETA has nothing to do with it. A driver with ability doesn’t need to pound on his horse to win.

[Fatboy]

We’re talking about a specific driver with very little talent. PETA has nothing to do with it. A driver with ability doesn’t need to pound on his horse to win.

  The best will flat drill one if they can get away with it.  Same with kicking.  Are you new?

[Winsome]

I own 22 head how about you. Again we’re talking about a guy that constantly beats beats horses that are out of contention.

[harnesstimes]

I own 22 head how about you. Again we’re talking about a guy that constantly beats beats horses that are out of contention.

YOU DO HAVE TO TEACH THOSE LOSERS A LESSON, NO LOLLYGAGGING 

[Rabbi Of Racing]

You PETA folks are nuts!  Whipping a horse is fine , racing is ruined without it , wise up!!!

[STEW MCQUEEN]

!!!!WHAT!!!! You gave head to 22 hell you must have lockjaw.

[harnesstimes]

AS LONG AS IT AINT MY BLOOD, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT

[TimTimTimbo]

Would you rather lose your bet or purse because of driver not trying, go back to fucking PETA this ain't for you.

Years ago in NZ, there was a maiden who had drawn 16 in a 16 horse field and he was labelled Urgent. He was a very lazy horse and had to be whipped to get him to find the other gear which head had. He had plenty of gears but had no intentions of using them without being persuaded.

The horse was 18-1 and went off at 2-1 and he wheeled the field with 5/8th to go and was in danger of getting headed at top of the stretch. His driver whipped him only 6 times in the stretch and each time he gained a length on the opposition. He won by 6 and many of us cashed in. He, of course, got fined like 500 and a suspension because every one of those 6 drew blood on his ass.  He won quite a few more races and was never lazy again. He told the judges had he not whipped him, he would not have won and he would have been accused of not driving him out.

This guy was a well know top driver who trained a few as in like half a dozen of other people's horses and they always won. He would take a horse off someone for a month and get the desired result. the horse would keep winning when the original trainer got them back so I guess he had a method that worked. Never was ever accused of drugging and all he did was jog them miles and miles up the countryside on the side of the road for miles and miles every day.

[harnessplop]

Whip to win

[Harness Stats]

A little over a month ago in Australia in the $450,000 Grade One at Gloucester Vultin Tin beat Chicago Bull.   The driver of Vultin Tin was fined $1200 and given a 7 day suspension for "unacceptable whip". The driver of Chicago Bull was also fined $750 for the same thing.

I watched the stretch drive and didn't think that much of it. Some places treat it a lot harder than we do.