NJ to lose the 20m?

[horses first]

Gov says no to the 20mln in his revised budget plan. Let the process start between now and Sep 30. Won't be long before the PA gov does the same looking to fill covid budget holes.

[The Exporter]

I would hope there would be consideration for the covid interruption. But, in order to receive funding for 2021, racing needs to show all the good things that the funding was supposed to make happen actually did happen. Can the NJ Hormens groups as well as the tracks show this data?

[Fair is fair]

take the money. fuk gurrell. total hypocrite PIECE OF SHIT

[harnessplop]

If it wasnt for jew rscing would be done in nj n upstate ny

[Dingus]

The final budget will be negotiated between the governor and the legislature.
Just because Murphy removed the money doesn’t mean it won’t be in the final budget.

[jupiter]

and meds, Horseman think the state is like a piggy bank. States are getting smarter, why give these slobs more money they bring nothing to the party. Don´t start about all the money we bring in, most horsemen do not pay their bills on time any way, ask any feed man, harness shop, blacksmith etc.  Gural got his sports betting in NJ he is happy, got his casinos in NY and was happy, till they do not do as well as he wants. He did save these race tracks, but he will make out ok either way. He will still have his casinos and sports betting and maybe having to shell out even less to the horseman. He wins either way. He is a businessman. The problem with most horse people is they are NOT business people. They get farther in the hole and can never get out, just keep raking up more bills and bitch about tracks not taking care of them. Please don´t blame Gural for being a businessman

[jupiter]

Dingus please take the rose colored glasses off. The days of states giving us welfare is either over or very close to over. If anyone thinks gov´s are not looking at their entire budgets and looking where they can cut, you are kidding yourselves. You have food lines, unemployment not seen since the depression. Starting the first of Sept people will start getting eviction notices. Do you really think harness racing will or should sill be a priority. We are by no means the only industry in deep shit, pick up a paper look at a news cast (other than fox) and see the reality.   

[Under The STick]

I seriously don't understand why some of you assholes are even on here. It obvious you don't give 2 fucks about harness racing. Every post you make is negative against the sport. Take your negative comments & crawl back in your hole. Worthless fucks are what you are. You are part of the problem in harness racing. If you dislike harness racing so why even pay attention to what's going? WTF

[bestbetter]

I seriously don't understand why some of you assholes are even on here. It obvious you don't give 2 fucks about harness racing. Every post you make is negative against the sport. Take your negative comments & crawl back in your hole. Worthless fucks are what you are. You are part of the problem in harness racing. If you dislike harness racing so why even pay attention to what's going? WTF

My exact thoughts. That would hurt Harness racing for sure WTF...

[Calhoun]

I seriously don't understand why some of you assholes are even on here. It obvious you don't give 2 fucks about harness racing. Every post you make is negative against the sport. Take your negative comments & crawl back in your hole. Worthless fucks are what you are. You are part of the problem in harness racing. If you dislike harness racing so why even pay attention to what's going? WTF

You're right.

Let's celebrate!

Opening day at Freehold tomorrow!

$1.6 Million in welfare for Freehold overnights!

Plus other $500k or whatever for owners and breeders.

Get in line.

Your welfare office is open now.

[pocketrocketwinner]

the subsidy was on a "prove it" deal. The idea was to give them competitive purse structures, increase field size and horse talent, subsequently increase handle/revenue.

Despite what they spent the year telling you, they failed.  Subsidy is gone.

[Hush Limbaugh II]

Still can't get the info correct 



Meadowlands’ owner Jeff Gural is urging horseracing stakeholders to contact NJ legislators to save proposed budget cuts eliminating funding for purses.

The whiny jewlie DOES NOT (I REPEAT) DOES NOT own Pinky Downs. He leases it 

Trump and Goooooofffrrrraaa llll for NumNuts of the Year 

[jupiter]

I am part of the problem because I call out the stupid shit we have done for years. I have been licensed by the USTA, CTA, NY, Pa, Ohio, Ind, Mass, NJ, Del, Ky, Md, Va, Cal and Ontario at some point since 1965. I have made a very nice living, still love the SPORT, NOT the business. The problem seems to be no body says anything. If you do you are a rat and everybody hates you. Nothing is going to change till WE change it. Get real, most Horsemans assns are useless, the directors look after themselves and friends, always at least a couple of factions in the assn´s. How much do they really get done, look at your associations how much do they really do for YOU. If all you want is polly anna shit and no truth go to the USTA web site and believe all the happy talk. We have never policed ourselves, how many lifetime bans have you seen, and almost always they come back. Financial responsibility in our business is a joke for a large number of participants, owners and trainers . Have you tried to go to most commissions about a bad bill owed to you? Ya don´t get much from them do ya. The plop would be really great if everybody told happy stories and we all sang Kumbaya. Hate me cause I tell the truth and as Jack said ¨You can´t handle the truth¨           

[The Exporter]

There is enough blame for everyone. The truth is, there is not enough public interest in harness racing ina competitive environment to support it as an entity.
 Please don't tell me about all the gypsies and thieves. Racing has always had these characters.
 In the 1970's, racing had numerous scandals, investigations and arrests. And not low level participants. Some of the biggest names like, Herve. There were owners and race fixers that went to prison. There were riots at the racetrack. There were bookmakers and shylarks everywhere.
 Though all that, the industry survived and thrived. Why? Because it was the only legal gambling game in town. Now that people have choices with their gambling dollar, racing has shrunk every day. Very few people care about harness racing. If Roosevelt Raceway was dog track, there would have been 50,000 in attendance for the International Bow Wow. Gambling and night racing is what put harness racing on the map.
 Please don't tell me, ..." if they would advertise and market..." All throughout the 1990's, when racing was loosing patrons everyday to other forms of gambling, All the major tracks ran TV commercials, newspaper ads, radio, bus and subway advertising radio...   It di very little to attract new patrons. Today, you would probably spend 100x or more on customer acquisition then, it would return .
 So yea, horsemen contributed to the down fall , States withdrew funding when the parimutuel became almost nothing, resulting in unpoliced and corrupt judges. But there was the same level of incompetence thievery 50 years ago. The greatest difference is, we had no choice. Today we have choices and people are not choosing racing.
For more proof, look at Scioto Downs. When they were the only harness track operating and competing with C level t-bred tracks they handled 4-5x their average handle.
But, once the people had choices, they chose other tracks. And, for the sake of purse accounts, I hope casinos come back strong but, what will that do to erode the harness fan base? Blaming one group will do nothing more than erode the entire group. An entirely new mission statement and business plan is needed.

[Emperor Dapple]

There is enough blame for everyone. The truth is, there is not enough public interest in harness racing ina competitive environment to support it as an entity.
 Please don't tell me about all the gypsies and thieves. Racing has always had these characters.
 In the 1970's, racing had numerous scandals, investigations and arrests. And not low level participants. Some of the biggest names like, Herve. There were owners and race fixers that went to prison. There were riots at the racetrack. There were bookmakers and shylarks everywhere.
 Though all that, the industry survived and thrived. Why? Because it was the only legal gambling game in town. Now that people have choices with their gambling dollar, racing has shrunk every day. Very few people care about harness racing. If Roosevelt Raceway was dog track, there would have been 50,000 in attendance for the International Bow Wow. Gambling and night racing is what put harness racing on the map.
 Please don't tell me, ..." if they would advertise and market..." All throughout the 1990's, when racing was loosing patrons everyday to other forms of gambling, All the major tracks ran TV commercials, newspaper ads, radio, bus and subway advertising radio...   It di very little to attract new patrons. Today, you would probably spend 100x or more on customer acquisition then, it would return .
 So yea, horsemen contributed to the down fall , States withdrew funding when the parimutuel became almost nothing, resulting in unpoliced and corrupt judges. But there was the same level of incompetence thievery 50 years ago. The greatest difference is, we had no choice. Today we have choices and people are not choosing racing.
For more proof, look at Scioto Downs. When they were the only harness track operating and competing with C level t-bred tracks they handled 4-5x their average handle.
But, once the people had choices, they chose other tracks. And, for the sake of purse accounts, I hope casinos come back strong but, what will that do to erode the harness fan base? Blaming one group will do nothing more than erode the entire group. An entirely new mission statement and business plan is needed.

Well said and spot on!!