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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2020, 08:06:57 PM »
but they will skimp whenever possible,,,very anti racing

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2020, 09:16:07 PM »
Watch all those high paid executives get walked out just like they did at Pompano.    No one is safe and their track record is proven. 

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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2020, 09:36:28 PM »
but they will skimp whenever possible,,,very anti racing

  Vernon paddock will look better.

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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2020, 11:43:38 PM »
Watch all those high paid executives get walked out just like they did at Pompano.    No one is safe and their track record is proven. 
  If that means Dave Maggot will be out of a job, then I say Eldorado is a step in the right direction.

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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2020, 07:52:47 AM »
I don't know.

And the actual number let go might be lower. 

They're required by fed law to send the notices ahead of the layoff.
Thanks for the "Paul Harvey". It is a formality, mandated by government for lay offs of a large % of total employees.

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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2020, 09:31:52 AM »
I think they did a nice job at scioto. The place sure looks and smells better...in spots. I remember coming in to drive in the 90s and there would be thousands of cars in the lot. Then in the 2000s there might be a few hundred on s Saturday night. Now its back up again thanks 100% to the casino

Gambling was better without the casinos!!!!!! Theres no money in the pools between the indy tracks yonkers philly and mohegan you can bet 600 on a horse an he goes 9/2 to 8/5 at either of those tracks rite before post!!!!!!! Gambling now is garbage!!!!! Casino revenue is for the owners trainers drivers and track exec’s!!!!!!!! Not gonna lie wish i had this when i was running my horses!!!!!!!!Oh welll extremely happy for the horseman but it does not make it better for the Gamblers LUC!!!!!! Congrats on the win still dont understand why u race that horse out east when u could bring that horse to hawthorne and pick up 5k every week with easy training miles and let the big colts beats up on each other and pick ur spots with that horse !!!!!!!! Alot of money to be made nowadays on overnites!!!!!!!

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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2020, 10:22:28 AM »
Gambling was better without the casinos!!!!!! Theres no money in the pools between the indy tracks yonkers philly and mohegan you can bet 600 on a horse an he goes 9/2 to 8/5 at either of those tracks rite before post!!!!!!! Gambling now is garbage!!!!! Casino revenue is for the owners trainers drivers and track exec’s!!!!!!!! Not gonna lie wish i had this when i was running my horses!!!!!!!!Oh welll extremely happy for the horseman but it does not make it better for the Gamblers LUC!!!!!! Congrats on the win still dont understand why u race that horse out east when u could bring that horse to hawthorne and pick up 5k every week with easy training miles and let the big colts beats up on each other and pick ur spots with that horse !!!!!!!! Alot of money to be made nowadays on overnites!!!!!!!
The problem isn't the casinos. Its the lack of Promoting of the sport. That's why thoroughbreds get way more money in the pools. The young people go to the tracks and spends buckets full. The harness racing community is aging and dying off. Without the young people the sport is going to buckle. Online betting may help the sport which can be seen in Meadowlands pools, but the same can't be said at other tracks.

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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2020, 12:13:43 PM »
Eldorado has done such a fine job at Pompano and Scioto, looking good for Hoosier. Outstanding organization, Barns in tip top condition. Grandstands immaculate, they will never cut corners or try to screw the horseman over. DREAM ON, ya got bought by casino scum that hates horse racing. LIVE WITH IT. They are NEVER going to promote harness racing. The only days will be Triple crown for T-breds. Does anybody think they will do the same thing as Harrahs Breeders Crown show?

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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2020, 01:12:50 PM »
once those degenerate gamblers are gone, racing is gone, and you will have to go back to selling used jalopies with rolled back odi's

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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2020, 04:38:10 PM »
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/indiana-racing-commission-approves-eldorado-acquisition-of-racetracks-with-conditions/

Indiana Racing Commission Approves Eldorado Acquisition Of Racetracks — With Conditions

The Indiana Horse Racing Commission unanimously approved the transfer of permits and licenses for Indiana Grand and Hoosier Park from Caesars Entertainment to Eldorado Resorts Inc. at a Monday morning meeting — but that approval came with a number of conditions.

A report from commission staff last week highlighted a series of concerns about Eldorado's past management of racetracks it has owned, including Pompano Park, Scioto Downs, Presque Isle Downs, and Mountaineer Park. While the report noted representatives of Eldorado had presented come exciting plans and promises to the commission about its commitment to the future of Indiana racing, there were concerns about its financial liquidity and tendency to reduce staff and other costs, to the disadvantage of racing operations.

Kirkpatrick & CoAt a presentation before the commission, which was held as an in-person meeting at Indiana Grand, representatives from Eldorado did not dispute the findings of the report or previous reports from consultant Doug Reed noting concerns about its history of racetrack management.
“I will tell you, I read Executive Director Pittman's report, I've read the Reed report. I'm not going to stand in front of you and offer excuses,” said Tom Reeg, chief executive officer at Eldorado. “I know the Reed report was not acceptable to me, it's not acceptable to this commission, and you've seen us make changes immediately upon the issuance of it. But also understand you can't fix those issues in a couple of months by hiring one guy. We've seen the list of conditions in Executive Director Pittman's report; we understand that the commission, if they give us the opportunity to own these tracks, they'll hold our feet to the fire. We are ready and willing to accept all of the conditions in that report.”

One of the newer company developments highlighted by Eldorado to reassure Indiana's racing industry was the hiring of Joe Morris as its senior vide president for racing operations. Morris formerly held the title of senior vice president of West Coast operations at The Stronach Group before departing in 2017. Morris admitted that when approached for the position earlier this year, he had reservations.

“Eldorado and the tracks lacked expertise in their management,” said Morris, who said he too studied the company's racing history with concern. “The managers did lack authority, and they were mired in bureaucracy. It took too long to get a decision made.

“When I was talking with Anthony [Carano, COO of Eldorado] about taking this position, I had the same three concerns [as consultant Doug Reed]. The racing people need to be making racing decisions and we've fixed that in this case. The corporate structure actually mandates that.”

Morris pointed to increases in daily handle at Scioto Downs, which was the first North American harness track to reopen after the COVID-19 shutdown. He attributed the improvements to new wagering menus, better analysts guiding horseplayers through the track's card, and an adjustment in post times to address computer wagering. Morris also said he brought in new surface experts to Scioto and would plan to do the same in Indiana.

In addition to a $20 million to $25 million commitment to an escrow account for racing, the company plans to allot $60 million for facility improvements across racing and casino operations. Morris spoke of additional barns and dormitories at Indiana Grand, as well as a need to stimulate Indiana-based ownership across all three racing breeds.

“The future of racing is very bright here,” said Morris. “There's nothing to fix; I think we can polish it up a little bit.”

Several speakers, including horsemen and commissioners admitted that they were initially skeptical of Eldorado's ability to avoid a repeat of the mistakes outlined in last week's staff report. But many said after intense discussions with Eldorado management, they have instead become hopeful the company will boost racing in the state with careful oversight from the commission.

A couple of speakers said they were not convinced.

“I'm hearing some good stuff. I'd love to believe it,” said Nat Hill, longtime horseman in the state and one of the directors at the Indiana Standardbred Association.

“No horseman's group can afford to publicly oppose the acquisition of Caesars by Eldorado. A horseman makes his living at the track, and a track has the absolute ability to refuse entries. Over the years, horsemen and horsemen's groups have learned to go with the flow. In no circumstance will they ever likely oppose a change in ownership.

“Perhaps most disturbing to me personally is the lawsuit instituted by Eldorado to kill harness racing in Florida by replacing it with jai alai. How can it be overstated that Eldorado is using every legal means possible to kill harness racing in Florida? What will their plans be in Indiana in years to come?”

Ultimately, the commission's approval included a list of conditions, including all 22 requirements suggested by commission staff. Eldorado will therefore be committed to getting NTRA Safety and Integrity Alliance for its racetracks, required to keep ownership of both Hoosier and Indiana Grand, will be required to maintain existing staffing levels. Eldorado representatives also committed to continuing a program launched by Caesars to improve gender and racial diversity in its company's management.

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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2020, 04:48:43 PM »
More stuff that's too long to write out here:

https://www.in.gov/hrc/files/PUBLIC%20REDACTED%20ExecDirectorRpt.pdf

Some track observations:

Below are additional excerpts from Reed’s visit to Scioto Downs:
Upon leaving the rear of the casino you discover one of two entrances to the simulcast area closed due to
an escalator shutdown and to my left a fenced off closed grandstand that I was told was condemned due
to an unsafe roof. The grandstand was closed prior to the 2017 racing season and remains fenced off.
(Reed’s Second Report, p.8).
. . .
There were some horsemen that raced and have participated at both Scioto Downs and Hoosier Park and
they felt there was no comparison and did not like how the property at Scioto had become more “run
down” since Eldorado took over. The relationship with the horsemen association was challenging but
perhaps not as adversarial as observed at the other two properties visited. (Reed’s Second Report, p.9).
. . .
For the most part (at this track and others visited) there were only a few [horsemen] that had problems
with the racing management, but most [horsemen] said their “hands were tied” by upper management
and therefore local racing management couldn’t do much. (Reed’s Second Report, p. 9).
. . .
There were a number of people interviewed that reported marketing as an area of deficiency. However,
many did say the races attract good crowds on Friday and Saturday nights. Of course, the large grandstand
has been closed so the crowds are now shifted to either the clubhouse or a small bleacher type
grandstand. (Reed’s Second Report, p. 9).

Reed also noted a number of issues at Pompano Park:
Not having been to that property for decades, I did park on the wrong side and was greeted again by a
closed grandstand and clubhouse (pictures of the facility Appendix B). Like Scioto, there was a much
smaller bleacher type grandstand placed at the rear of the casino, with a much less desirable viewing area
of the live races.
. . .
It was clear when I spoke to stakeholders the first issue on their mind was that lawsuits were in progress
and Eldorado was aggressively seeking to “decouple” racing from the casino by replacing the pari-mutuel
license with a Jai Alai license.
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. . .
When Eldorado took over the management and ownership of Pompano the efforts to “decouple”
escalated. There were a number of cuts made in personnel and hardly any capital was spent on racing.
. . .
A number of mid-level managers were eliminated and several stated that on many race nights top racing
management are not present. There was deferred maintenance, a few dorms (rent is charged for dorm
rooms – a policy in place before Eldorado owned the property) were closed rather than fixed, and a few
barns had a transformer that needed repair, but those barns were closed instead. (Racing managers said
the barn area will not be full this year and those barns would not be needed.)
. . .
Negotiations with horsemen went from bad to worse according to many when the property changed
hands from Isle of Capri to Eldorado. (Reed’s Second Report, p.10).
. . .
Most horsemen felt there was little if any marketing on the racing side. Others interviewed that could
make reasonable comparisons felt racing marketing was better elsewhere. (Reed’s Second Report, p.11).

some tbred tracks they own:

Finally, Reed made the following observations during his time at Mountaineer racetrack which
Eldorado owned beginning in 2014 and sold at the end of 2019:
It is a very large facility by today’s standards and with the exception of the lower level of the grandstand,
the remaining grandstand and entire clubhouse are closed on regular days of racing. With the exception
of the horsemen, there appeared to be very few racing customers.
. . .
It was very clear that any spending now that a sale was pending had been cut to bare bones. However,
it’s a case of going from bad to worse. It seems evident that cuts were made pre-sale, perhaps to make
the bottom line look better, but this is just speculation. In multiple interviews “bottom line” and “cuts”
were often mentioned. (Reed’s Second Report, p.11).
. . .
Mountaineer does not offer wages similar to other tracks and has difficulty hiring qualified racing officials.
Two examples are Mountaineer has been months without a track superintendent (and allegedly has a
very short-handed track crew) and do not have enough assistant starters on the gate crew. Horsemen
have had to pressure management to get more hands in the starting gate and management has even used
temp help that are not familiar with horses. (Reed’s Second Report, p.12).

Despite not visiting Presque Isle Downs (“PID”), Reed conducted some due diligence and noted
the following:

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Unlike the other racing properties acquired by Eldorado, this property was very new, in fact newer than
the Indiana properties.
. . .
In 2017, the director of racing retired and the position was filled by the director of finance as an additional
title/duty. Also similar to some of the properties visited, I was left with the impression that Eldorado
needed encouragement or requirements to get things done for racing at this property versus just asking
or expecting it to be part of the expense of running a horse racing facility. (Reed’s Second Report, p.13).
As discussed above, Eldorado has certainly made encouraging statements and taken important
actions, such as the hiring of Joe Morris for the newly-created Senior Vice President of Racing
position. However, all of Eldorado’s commitments to Indiana horsemen and the IHRC must be
evaluated against the backdrop presented in Reed’s Second Report.
Unfortunately, it’s very difficult for Commission Staff to read through Reed’s Second Report
and come away with any optimism about ERI’s history of managing racing properties. ERI’s
management style to this point has been the antithesis of the management style that has been
encouraged, expected, and largely received, from Centaur and Caesars. Rather, it raises
significant concern about whether handing ERI the “keys to the kingdom” by granting them both
racing permits in Indiana is truly in the best interest of Indiana racing.




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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2020, 09:57:54 PM »
More stuff that's too long to write out here:

https://www.in.gov/hrc/files/PUBLIC%20REDACTED%20ExecDirectorRpt.pdf

Some track observations:

Below are additional excerpts from Reed’s visit to Scioto Downs:
Upon leaving the rear of the casino you discover one of two entrances to the simulcast area closed due to
an escalator shutdown and to my left a fenced off closed grandstand that I was told was condemned due
to an unsafe roof. The grandstand was closed prior to the 2017 racing season and remains fenced off.
(Reed’s Second Report, p.8).
. . .
There were some horsemen that raced and have participated at both Scioto Downs and Hoosier Park and
they felt there was no comparison and did not like how the property at Scioto had become more “run
down” since Eldorado took over. The relationship with the horsemen association was challenging but
perhaps not as adversarial as observed at the other two properties visited. (Reed’s Second Report, p.9).
. . .
For the most part (at this track and others visited) there were only a few [horsemen] that had problems
with the racing management, but most [horsemen] said their “hands were tied” by upper management
and therefore local racing management couldn’t do much. (Reed’s Second Report, p. 9).
. . .
There were a number of people interviewed that reported marketing as an area of deficiency. However,
many did say the races attract good crowds on Friday and Saturday nights. Of course, the large grandstand
has been closed so the crowds are now shifted to either the clubhouse or a small bleacher type
grandstand. (Reed’s Second Report, p. 9).



on the money report

  -  and, a real sad situation. 

The horsemen and the few remaining fans support this ramshackle mess out of habit and memory.  The Ohio association is headquartered right near this track.  you would think that they would hold a conference w/ Eldo and the Ohio Commission and go to work on a rehab. 

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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2020, 02:28:22 PM »
Morris pointed to increases in daily handle at Scioto Downs, which was the first North American harness track to reopen after the COVID-19 shutdown. He attributed the improvements to new wagering menus, better analysts guiding horseplayers through the track's card, and an adjustment in post times to address computer wagering. Morris also said he brought in new surface experts to Scioto and would plan to do the same in Indiana.

So this guy thinks that the NEW BETTING menu was the reason for the handle going up...... you were one of the only tracks open...

Ummmmm --- have you seen the handle lately ? Since there is competition ?? 

Better analysts guiding horseplayers through the tracks card ??

Good Luck Indiana --- Sincerely, Ohio and Florida horsemen.

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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2020, 08:15:11 PM »
THEY WILL NEED IT

 

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