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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #180 on: May 23, 2020, 08:10:31 AM »
Part of the reason was the paddock meeting went over by a few minutes, but still no excuse for 13 minutes from The horses on track until actually race.
the dragging out races to me is a big deal. Last night was an exception but I rarely watch races live. I make my bets and watch the replays, making notes on horse to watch their next start.

When I watch live or the rare occasion I am at the track, sitting aroud I'll probably will bet something -- extra money wagered.

I already have my bets set for tonight ---- betting 4 races.... Probably get to watch a couple.... But for the most part will stick to the 4 races, win or lose that's what they get from me.

Could you imagine a 28 year old college graduate playing a slot machine or hand of black jack.... the dealer gives you the first card, and then waits a couple of minutes to give you the next card ?

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #181 on: May 23, 2020, 08:50:26 AM »
Does anyone know what Scioto handled last year for a Friday in late May?

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #182 on: May 23, 2020, 09:00:53 AM »
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about how much of that goes to purses?

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #183 on: May 23, 2020, 09:13:20 AM »
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Scioto --- last year -- with every track going handled  1.1 million last year...  Really ??

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« Reply #184 on: May 23, 2020, 09:14:55 AM »
about how much of that goes to purses?
With no fans ( although not many go to the track ) all wagering is reliant on ADW....

A couple of years ago, there was an article in DRF. For some reason a lot of the big internet companies contracts were coming up. TVG, xpressbet and twinspires….

They discussed that the give back to tracks were usually 3-5%...

So tonight -- With Scioto the only harness game going this weekend. I was thinking about the numbers. Now granted their purses are inflated from the slot check they receive but what could a big weekend mean handle to purse...

say Scioto handles $1 million tonight.  At the top end lets say they get 5% or $50,000... Take 5% for track management, personnel, utilities and insurance.

So they are left with $45,000 from the ADW to pay purses....

Friday Purses equal $124,500... They would run out of money into 6th race.

If they had to race from actual wagers on possibly their greatest night with a 12 race card -- $3,750

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« Reply #185 on: May 23, 2020, 09:23:47 AM »
With no fans ( although not many go to the track ) all wagering is reliant on ADW....

A couple of years ago, there was an article in DRF. For some reason a lot of the big internet companies contracts were coming up. TVG, xpressbet and twinspires….

They discussed that the give back to tracks were usually 3-5%...

So tonight -- With Scioto the only harness game going this weekend. I was thinking about the numbers. Now granted their purses are inflated from the slot check they receive but what could a big weekend mean handle to purse...

say Scioto handles $1 million tonight.  At the top end lets say they get 5% or $50,000... Take 5% for track management, personnel, utilities and insurance.

So they are left with $45,000 from the ADW to pay purses....

Friday Purses equal $124,500... They would run out of money into 6th race.

If they had to race from actual wagers on possibly their greatest night with a 12 race card -- $3,750
I thought tracks keep 50% and the othere 50% goes to purses? that would make it  25k to purses? or about $2000 purses starting next week if they can continue to handle 1 million per night.

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #186 on: May 23, 2020, 09:26:54 AM »
If horsemen didnt cheat more people would bet

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« Reply #187 on: May 23, 2020, 09:32:47 AM »
If horsemen didnt cheat more people would bet
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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #188 on: May 23, 2020, 09:36:41 AM »
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Yeah, right!

Total handle on the 12-race program was $1,054,294.15, the second highest handle in history at Scioto Downs, a number that hasn’t been seen at the five-eighths-mile oval in more than 20 years.

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #189 on: May 23, 2020, 09:42:25 AM »
Scioto --- last year -- with every track going handled  1.1 million last year...  Really ??

No lol, 200,000

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #190 on: May 23, 2020, 09:45:01 AM »
I thought tracks keep 50% and the othere 50% goes to purses? that would make it  25k to purses? or about $2000 purses starting next week if they can continue to handle 1 million per night.

This was five times their normal handle.   Pent up demand.   But after watching the cheating and intentional lack of effort will they get half that tonight?   Many won’t return for more of this shitty product.

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #191 on: May 23, 2020, 10:07:12 AM »
This was five times their normal handle.   Pent up demand.   But after watching the cheating and intentional lack of effort will they get half that tonight?   Many won’t return for more of this shitty product.

You would think guys that haven't earned any purse money for over 2 months would try their best with every horse, no?

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #192 on: May 23, 2020, 10:50:13 AM »
NO. It's much easier to stiff a big favorite and cash a ticket. The trainers and drivers don't own a lot of the horses. The 5% share is shit. Cashing a ticket is much better.
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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #193 on: May 23, 2020, 10:56:02 AM »
It takes a pandemic, 2.5 months of no live racing, the only harness track to be racing and it's a proud moment for the track to have its second highest handle in more then 20 years? With all that's happening and fans shutout from tracks and OTBs the lowest form of purse handle is in place. If this is the new norm look for major purse cuts especially if casinos suffer major revenue losses the next couple years.

ADW all states maybe different or it's all the same. But take CA 79.75 of that handle is returned to the public. The 21.25% is split into minor pieces of 11 or 12 different line items. One being purse return. If your a CA resident wagering on a CA track 5.35% will return to the purse. If your not a CA track it's just 2.79%. Spin a 20yr handle with no other tracks in play as something like "history" I call it a sad night for harness racing wagering. Somebody was kind saying purses would have ran out by race 6. More like after race 3 or 4 especially if a open was involved.

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Re: SCIOTO DOWNS OPENING NIGHT
« Reply #194 on: May 23, 2020, 01:38:24 PM »
Monday might be better, Fonner will be the only competition

 

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