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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2020, 03:55:55 PM »
3 million


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2,5 to 3 million

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2020, 04:02:54 PM »
HEY PUKE. You read good. NO person can be as a DUMP FUC.
Ya know with ya STUPID POSTIN. Down the line everythin might re-open.
We sick and tired of your PROCLIMATIONS everyday.

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2020, 04:10:44 PM »
horses first, your overall logic is sound
however i will challenge on the casino front, yes their numbers may be down due to restricted access, social distancing  etc but it wont be because the patrons dont want to go, look at the "majority" of people in some of these slots casino's, they are here for a good time not a long time, they will put on a mask and head on in

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2020, 04:40:32 PM »
casinos are not expected to open soon ,until then there will be no welfare . casinos also project a major loss of revenue for years to come

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2020, 04:56:39 PM »
The yrs to come projection is what matters. Luc keeps talking about Hoosier having money set aside. He certainly would be a good source for info regarding the tracks to which he has ties . But 2 or 3 months of racing $ is a short-term drop in the bucket.

I've noted I'm in favor of opening up some. I don't see where we have any choice. The options the country has are tough choices.

I'd note the NY Times today  is citing an internal admin document that suggests an increase to  3000 deaths daily by 6-1 of this yr. That's almost a doubling what it is now. While I know many on here (unlike me) consider the times a bad source; it is the place leakers go to. And if the administration is internally thinking @ this number, it would be awful. Even not quarantining, that number would mean a lot more disruption. People ultimately decide themselves when there's no quarantine whether to go out or stay in.






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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2020, 06:38:32 PM »
EVERY TRACK AND EVERY STATE HAS AGREEMENTS AS PER THE LEGISLATION ON WHAT CAN BE INCREASED OR DECREASED AS PER THE LAW IN THE CASE OF A NATIONAL DISASTER.   I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF POSSIBLE ALL TRACKS WILL CUT PURSES WITHIN THE LEGAL STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEIR EARNINGS ON WALL STREET.   THESE COMPNAIES NOW HAVE SHAREHOLDERS AND WILL EVERYTHING/AMYTHING TO PROTECT THEM.

MANY OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPNAIES RELY ON TOCK OPTIONS TO PROTECT AND TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME AND WEALTH.

THEREFORE, REST ASSURRED, THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES ARE IN FACT EXAMINING THE CONTRACTS WITH THE HORSEMAN AND THE RELATIVE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS TO PREPARE FOR THE RE-OPENING OF THE CASINOS/TRACKS.

NO STONE WILL REMAIN UNTURNED.

ASK THE AIRLINES OR GM---F---ETC. IF THEY ARE TRYING TO CUT COST IN ORDER TO SURVIVE!!!!     FOLKS, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE AFTER EFFECT---PURSES WILL BE CUT AND IT MAY TAKE YEARS TO REBUILD THE PURSE STRUCTURE.

ANYONE WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT BEING REALISTIC.

THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!!!  NOT A PIE IN THE SKY OR HOPIUM!!   THE SHAREHOLDERS OF THESE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES ARE ENTITILED TO MANAGEMENT THAT IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PER SHARE EARNINGS.

PURSE WILL DROP SUBSTANTIALLY AS AFFORDED BY LAW.

Im sorry but you do not know the law in Ohio.  Each track has a contract with the horsemen.  Each track is a little different in the percentages they get.  At Northfield Park 9% of the casino revenue is for the horsemen 85% of that 9% is for overnight purses the other goes for thing like Sire Stakes and fairs.  MGM shareholder are in no way affected by this In any more way that they are affected by the taxes the state takes from the casino. These percentages were part of the law based on the amount of money the track put in to their casino.  Purses will drop because of lack of wagering in the casino.

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2020, 06:39:43 PM »
The yrs to come projection is what matters. Luc keeps talking about Hoosier having money set aside. He certainly would be a good source for info regarding the tracks to which he has ties . But 2 or 3 months of racing $ is a short-term drop in the bucket.

I've noted I'm in favor of opening up some. I don't see where we have any choice. The options the country has are tough choices.

I'd note the NY Times today  is citing an internal admin document that suggests an increase to  3000 deaths daily by 6-1 of this yr. That's almost a doubling what it is now. While I know many on here (unlike me) consider the times a bad source; it is the place leakers go to. And if the administration is internally thinking @ this number, it would be awful. Even not quarantining, that number would mean a lot more disruption. People ultimately decide themselves when there's no quarantine whether to go out or stay in.

More fake news!

Actually the creator of the John Hopkins model/document says the projections were unfinished and "not in any way intended to be a forecast"

The press is always looking to scare the hell out of the public!

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2020, 06:45:02 PM »
More fake news!

Actually the creator of the John Hopkins model/document says the projections were unfinished and "not in any way intended to be a forecast"

The press is always looking to scare the hell out of the public!







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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2020, 07:46:47 PM »
More fake news!

Actually the creator of the John Hopkins model/document says the projections were unfinished and "not in any way intended to be a forecast"

The press is always looking to scare the hell out of the public!

Might be - there's a fair amount of misinformation floating around. I don't bank anything until I'm personally satisfied. I was just reporting the times article not saying it was correct. I'm not convinced it's fake but will acknowledge it could be. I don't have a high respect for anything coming out of the white house (or folks working with them) these days.

It's  (the Times piece) being reported in several major outlets though I had already seen some conservative media articles (see Washington Examiner) that supports your thinking saw.

I really hope it's not true in fact. And, as it had bothered me a bit appreciate your easing those (not eliminating) worries. It not being accurate would be what's best for my family and that's always my priority.  I could give a rats ass if the orange haired clown  is in Washington for another 4 yrs if in return this were to disappear.

While I am in favor of some reopening I'll be honest it unnerves me deeply. It's not only the human toll but the economic cost that our kids will absorb. So, I expect an uptick, but am worried about how bad. We do need to see and another 30 days will give us some more info.

Let me ask, you note fake news a lot - you gotta believe in something other than harness weekly. Who do you trust? If I hear Fox, I'll be disappointed. That's just the opposite version of CNN.

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #39 on: May 04, 2020, 09:53:07 PM »
At some whether it's mid year or into next year when casinos placed at racetracks will have new rules and regulation
with how many people can gamble revenues will be lower. When 30.8 mln people on unemployment and 7.5% of homes
in forbearance it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know purse cuts will be coming at all racino tracks. Consumers will be in
saving mode no spending or gambling mode. Many businesses will suffer.
Vegas is installing dividers between seats and machines, as soon as racetracks come up with a few bucks they'll have them too

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2020, 10:20:24 PM »
AS I STATED IN MY PREVIOUS POST THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE THE CONTRACTS WITH THE HORSEMEN AND THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS ---PASSED BY THE LEGISLATORS ----TO FOLLOW THE LAW.  THE LAW IS THE LAW.   THE CASINOS ARE PUBLICLY TRADED AND WILL IN FACT DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO PAY OUT LESS.  I ASSUME THE CONTRACTS ARE PAID ON A PERCENTAGE OF CASINO BETS/SLOTS, ETC.   I REALIZE THERE IS A CONTRACTS AND THE HORSEMENT ARE PRTECTED TO A POINT.

AT 2:24 PM TODAY THE HOUSE INTRODUCED A NEW STIMULUS BILL WITH APPROXIMATELY $2,000 PER MONTH GOING TO EVERYONE AGE 16 AND ABOVE UNTIL THIS PANDEMIC ENDS.  WE ARE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND TRUTHFULLY NO ONE KNOWS HOW REOPENING THE STATES WILL WORK IN REGARDS TO THE VIRUS REOCCURRING ---OR JUST DISAPPEARING.   

IF THEY ARE CONSIDERING A BILL SUCH AS THIS---WE OBVIOUSLY DO NOT EXPECT A RAPID RECOVERY AND THE BETTORS TO RETURN TO THE CASINOS OVERNIGHT!!!  DO YOU?

THE STOCK MARKET HAS CREATED MANY MILLIONAIRES AND HAVE CREATED LOSSES IN THE TRILLIONS!!!  DO YOU THINK YEARLING SALES WILL BE UP THIS YEAR AS WELL?   I THINK NOT.

A NEW CHALLENGE FOR THE INDUSTRY.  SURE HOPE YOU HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP AS IT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR IT TO SURVIVE AS IT ONCE WAS!!!!

NOT LIKE THE OLD DAYS---THAT IS FOR SURE!!  WHEN THE ADIOS HAD THE HILL COVERED WITH THOUSANDS !!!  ROOSEVELT HAD STANDING ROOM ONLY !!!  POMPANI HAD STANLEY DANCER AND BILL HAUGHTON WITH OVER HUNDRED EACH ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE TRACK AT THE TRAINING CENTER AND DELVIN WAS STANDING ADIOS!!!

TIMES HAVE CHANGED MY FRIENDS!!!

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2020, 10:34:52 PM »
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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2020, 10:50:26 PM »
Might be - there's a fair amount of misinformation floating around. I don't bank anything until I'm personally satisfied. I was just reporting the times article not saying it was correct. I'm not convinced it's fake but will acknowledge it could be. I don't have a high respect for anything coming out of the white house (or folks working with them) these days.

It's  (the Times piece) being reported in several major outlets though I had already seen some conservative media articles (see Washington Examiner) that supports your thinking saw.

I really hope it's not true in fact. And, as it had bothered me a bit appreciate your easing those (not eliminating) worries. It not being accurate would be what's best for my family and that's always my priority.  I could give a rats ass if the orange haired clown  is in Washington for another 4 yrs if in return this were to disappear.

While I am in favor of some reopening I'll be honest it unnerves me deeply. It's not only the human toll but the economic cost that our kids will absorb. So, I expect an uptick, but am worried about how bad. We do need to see and another 30 days will give us some more info.

Let me ask, you note fake news a lot - you gotta believe in something other than harness weekly. Who do you trust? If I hear Fox, I'll be disappointed. That's just the opposite version of CNN.

1st - If I came across as attacking you, I didn't mean to. I respect your opinion.

2nd - Who do I trust?..... I don't trust any of them!..... Years ago people reported the news.... Today its all sensationalism & everybody tells you how you should feel, and if you don't agree with them your wrong and I'm not just talking about the night time opinion people.
This happens on the left and right.

3rd - I didn't vote for Trump & I do say fake news a lot..... I watch about 50% CNN, 25% FOX & 25% the 3 major networks. Two of my favorite shows are "Smerconish" and Fareed Zakaria GPS.

4th - Every model that has come out over the last 2 months, has been wrong, they pretend they can tell us whats going to happen, but its mostly guess work.

5th - I'm truly sorry for the loss of life, but I believe millions of people are going to lose their business/life savings, and many more could lose their house. I believe future poverty & homelessness will kill more people around the world than the virus. Our last recession was 10 million unemployed, were probably closer to 40 million unemployed today.

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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2020, 10:56:01 PM »
AS I STATED IN MY PREVIOUS POST THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE THE CONTRACTS WITH THE HORSEMEN AND THE TRACKS WILL EXAMINE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS ---PASSED BY THE LEGISLATORS ----TO FOLLOW THE LAW.  THE LAW IS THE LAW.   THE CASINOS ARE PUBLICLY TRADED AND WILL IN FACT DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO PAY OUT LESS.  I ASSUME THE CONTRACTS ARE PAID ON A PERCENTAGE OF CASINO BETS/SLOTS, ETC.   I REALIZE THERE IS A CONTRACTS AND THE HORSEMENT ARE PRTECTED TO A POINT.

AT 2:24 PM TODAY THE HOUSE INTRODUCED A NEW STIMULUS BILL WITH APPROXIMATELY $2,000 PER MONTH GOING TO EVERYONE AGE 16 AND ABOVE UNTIL THIS PANDEMIC ENDS.  WE ARE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND TRUTHFULLY NO ONE KNOWS HOW REOPENING THE STATES WILL WORK IN REGARDS TO THE VIRUS REOCCURRING ---OR JUST DISAPPEARING.   

IF THEY ARE CONSIDERING A BILL SUCH AS THIS---WE OBVIOUSLY DO NOT EXPECT A RAPID RECOVERY AND THE BETTORS TO RETURN TO THE CASINOS OVERNIGHT!!!  DO YOU?

THE STOCK MARKET HAS CREATED MANY MILLIONAIRES AND HAVE CREATED LOSSES IN THE TRILLIONS!!!  DO YOU THINK YEARLING SALES WILL BE UP THIS YEAR AS WELL?   I THINK NOT.

A NEW CHALLENGE FOR THE INDUSTRY.  SURE HOPE YOU HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP AS IT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR IT TO SURVIVE AS IT ONCE WAS!!!!

NOT LIKE THE OLD DAYS---THAT IS FOR SURE!!  WHEN THE ADIOS HAD THE HILL COVERED WITH THOUSANDS !!!  ROOSEVELT HAD STANDING ROOM ONLY !!!  POMPANI HAD STANLEY DANCER AND BILL HAUGHTON WITH OVER HUNDRED EACH ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE TRACK AT THE TRAINING CENTER AND DELVIN WAS STANDING ADIOS!!!

TIMES HAVE CHANGED MY FRIENDS!!!

There are no federal laws governing horse racing purse accounts.  The OHHA signed 10 year deals with the tracks  Without the tracks the casinos in Ohio couldn't operate.  So I don't know what world you're living in to think these casinos can get a law changed in a blink of an eye plus get out of a contract they signed.  Also I don't see why the casinos would care in Ohio they get 66% of the winnings with 1/3 to the state.  You think the state would say you're right casino operators we care about you more than the rest of the state we will give you the horseman's moneys so your shareholders will be ok.  Before this would happen the state would take the money not give the casinos more money.


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Re: purses to be cut 75%
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2020, 11:24:22 PM »
casinos are not expected to open soon ,until then there will be no welfare . casinos also project a major loss of revenue for years to come

have casinos considered going nudist? - w only a mask and fanny pack?  these times call for creative remedies. 

 

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