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Truthman

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Bleeding
« on: November 24, 2019, 10:13:55 PM »
Hi . Who knows the best way to control bleeding? Thanks for your help

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2019, 12:04:57 AM »
Sell or retire the horse

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2019, 08:31:24 AM »
Always had tremendous success with bleeders but there is no quick fix! Trainers that triumph over the problem realize that the horse much have a unique program that starts immediately after his race and throughout the week, building up to his next start! Bleeders usually don't jump up and run off the charts right away either! It takes a couple of starts for them to realize they are not going to hemorrhage and their confidence grows accordingly! Don't ever think that Lasix is the answer!

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2019, 10:39:15 AM »
Start by building up the blood.

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2019, 05:17:07 PM »
Start by building up the blood.

That's completely ass backwards!  More times than not bleeding occurs from blood pressure too high because PCV is thru the moon from Blood Builders.  Getting the blood thinner doesn't mean your going to lose O2 it just means the heart works less to pump the blood and less likely to blow a gasket and bleed.  First off you have to find out why the horse bleeds?  Ulcers, Bad shape, Tieing up, Blood to thick?  There are many reasons.....

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2019, 08:58:01 PM »
That might be the stupidest thing I ever heard. Blood too thick. ROFL. Bleeders bleed from capillaries in the lungs when the negative air pressure causes them to repture. Blood "thickness" has nothing to do with it and is ridiculous in the first place. TTitans1 is correct. Get the horse's blood count up and don't use lasix except as a last resort. And don't listen to idiots who know nothing like speed shop.

Let me know where you race - I love to claim or buy horses off idiots like you!

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 03:04:29 PM »
That's completely ass backwards!  More times than not bleeding occurs from blood pressure too high because PCV is thru the moon from Blood Builders.  Getting the blood thinner doesn't mean your going to lose O2 it just means the heart works less to pump the blood and less likely to blow a gasket and bleed.  First off you have to find out why the horse bleeds?  Ulcers, Bad shape, Tieing up, Blood to thick?  There are many reasons.....
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I fixed more bleeders than you can shake a stick at and it usually started with getting their blood right. If the blood is weak, it is easier for them to rupture. You are one silly fuck and you would not have wanted to claim horses from me.

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2019, 06:21:36 PM »
That might be the stupidest thing I ever heard. Blood too thick. ROFL. Bleeders bleed from capillaries in the lungs when the negative air pressure causes them to repture. Blood "thickness" has nothing to do with it and is ridiculous in the first place. TTitans1 is correct. Get the horse's blood count up and don't use lasix except as a last resort. And don't listen to idiots who know nothing like speed shop.

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 07:02:51 PM »
If a horse is a bleeder, they are not far from retirement. just cash in your chips and let the horse be a horse.

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 07:05:14 PM »
i also love how everyone on here is so highly regarded in the medical community on bleeding.

One guy thinks he is 100% right the other guy is 180 away from that but thinks he is 100% right too

very laughable

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2019, 10:44:51 AM »
Tinchi powder in the feed every day. Yunan paio on race day
« Last Edit: November 28, 2019, 10:50:16 AM by Sam R »

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2019, 11:01:46 AM »
If a horse is a bleeder, they are not far from retirement. just cash in your chips and let the horse be a horse.

Talk about laughable!!!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2019, 11:15:40 AM »
Vitamin K day before and day of can't hurt.(clotting factor)

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2019, 01:53:33 PM »
Talk about laughable!!!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

you think retiring a bleeder is laughable?? THATS fucked up dude!

I came back from a race one day and a horse of mine had blood dribbling from his nose and I retired him before we got back to the barn. 

I was very puzzled at the time because he had never been CLOSE to a bleeder. I had him scoped at the barn and found out it was a freak injury to his sinuses, in which case, I un-retired him.

point is, I made my mind up about retiring him the first second I thought he bled. His well being was first, not worrying about how I could band-aid a chronic health issue for my financial gains.

Any and all class operations which I worked for when I was younger did the same and I learned from them. I had a filly race at Turfway one night many years back for Calumet. Heavy Heavy favorite she stopped bad and our suspicions were verified - she bled. she never raced again.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2019, 01:55:24 PM by Stand Forever »

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Re: Bleeding
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2019, 06:39:30 PM »
A horse is not finished because he bleeds once and you are not much of a horseman and didn`t learn a fucking thing if you think so and can`t fix one! Get the fuck out of the business and yes, you are fucking laughable!

 

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