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Nostrathomas

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2019, 03:32:14 PM »
why cant we get rid of the owners who support these scums instead of chasing after ghost trainers
Now you've hit the nail on the head. If an owner knowingly uses a banned trainer, through deceptive channels, for the purpose of making an illegitimate profit - that is Fraud.
It may take something like a joint class action lawsuit for fraud, seeking monetary compensation for lost income, brought by some coalition of bettors and or trainers/owners, against these owners that profit from said fraud, to really shock this broken system.
As with most things harness, the current policing infrastructure is inadequate to handle the problem, and the solution may lie in the state courts.

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2019, 06:46:58 PM »
Bluechip should be boycotted for supporting marks.
Marks will still get his pockets lined from Gillis an Bongiorno. He lined them up
With owners an sauces them up for a percentage.
I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT HORSEMAN WILL BOYCOTT BOTH BLUECHIP
AND CRAWFORD AT THE YEARLING SALES THIS FALL.

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2019, 06:54:14 PM »
That is not as far fetched as it sounds. All you would need is a few big time buyers to announce in unison that they were boycotting the consignment of breeders using beards. I would bet others would follow which could put a dent in their sales.

burke doestn care

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2019, 11:20:46 PM »
I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT HORSEMAN WILL BOYCOTT BOTH BLUECHIP
AND CRAWFORD AT THE YEARLING SALES THIS FALL.

They both push all their horses and bid in most of them..

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2019, 11:24:12 PM »
i dont think burke is any good for our sport

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2019, 01:26:59 AM »
The real problem is: harness racing is so irrelevant to most if not all state governments, they will not invest much if anything into policing it. In NY, the so so not commited the owner must pay $19.00 to enter a horse. This is to offset the cost of testing and policing that the mutual tax once paid.
 So, since it produces no revenue for the state, it has no political power. In short, nobody cares. The game is wide open.
 

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2019, 07:46:28 AM »
The real problem is: harness racing is so irrelevant to most if not all state governments, they will not invest much if anything into policing it. In NY, the so so not commited the owner must pay $19.00 to enter a horse. This is to offset the cost of testing and policing that the mutual tax once paid.
 So, since it produces no revenue for the state, it has no political power. In short, nobody cares. The game is wide open.
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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2019, 07:56:31 AM »
The cost is $19.90 and I'm convienced  they only test for bute.  If that. 

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2019, 12:57:57 PM »
I think some commissions dump a lot of it down the drain. I agree, owners need to be held accountable for using banned trainers. It's not like they don't know what's going on.

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2019, 02:37:42 PM »
Your polly right, Parked. I remember about 10 years ago when they initially added a $10.00 stater fee. It was in reaction to Cornell University refusing to do any testing because the state was behind in their bill. After it was all settled,  the Lab admitted they had not done one test for many months.

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2019, 02:56:34 PM »
burke doestn care
bad owners ruined the sport

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2019, 03:18:44 PM »
5th race at meadows j king trainer jeff mounds lyon owner was this a former dowse horse

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2019, 03:35:38 PM »
Even the dudes from jolly ol' England hire the outlaws.

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2019, 03:41:27 PM »
Even the dudes from jolly ol' England hire the outlaws.

And his other trainer is Chris Oakes ,,,must be a square shooter

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Re: New Josh Marks Beard coming Soon
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2019, 03:46:16 PM »
However small Marks's speed dial list, you can bet Taylor is on it.

 

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