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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2019, 01:49:28 AM »
Shuffle, are they really that much at risk losing the Horse? They only need to payout 5% to Zeron. Then 3% commission unless they made some deal with Ongait. May be Eric was nice to do a freebie who knows. They aren't at much risk unless shit gets out of hand and they walk at a price they are happy with. My guess the other three owners with 95% are on the same page.

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2019, 07:48:51 AM »
You have to be absolutely blind to think 180 days was given over mislabeled Gastrogurd.  How do you even mis label it in the first place?  What did they find when it was tested? I'm guessing omeprazol? LOL

 Maybe the shock machine is more in play than the mislabeled bottles.?

The shock machine brings a different meaning to the term ..being lit up....

Seems I remember one of those machines being found in the stable where the winner of some big races came out of ??

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2019, 08:18:35 AM »
Ongait charges  a 4% fee on the sale price. Still much cheaper then harrisburg and lexington which on average is 12-15%

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2019, 08:45:55 AM »
taylor,

IMO a historically bad drive by Ake on Six Pack in the Hambo Elimination got Atlanta the win in the final. Terrific filly, but Iím of the opinion that Six Pack was, and is the better racehorse. And the only thing that beat him was Akeís drive.

Does the best horse win the Hambo every year?  Of course not. History is full of upsets on the track for a variety of reasons too numerous to count. Some are because a horse doesnít perform well that day. Some are because a horse gets a great drive/trip, etc, etc.  But never have I witnessed, IMO, such a buffoonery driving job on the M/L favorite to win the Hambo. Perhaps you can point me to a worse drive on a favorite to win the Hambo. Iíd be interested in seeing it. And Iíd suggest an asterisk on that one too, but Iíd be surprised if one can find a drive that bad.

Not many comparisons as to which horse may have been better, but Iíll rest my opinion on this one:

Kentucky Futurity Final : Six Pack 54.4 to the half, 54.2 last half, third quarter in 26.3, last quarter in 27.4. Final time 1:49.1

Kentucky Futurity Final: Atlanta 56.1 to the half, 55.0 last half, third quarter in 28.2, last quarter in 26.3. Final time 151:1

Six Packís last half in 54.2 after a taxing 54.4 first half , IMO, was the better of these two races.

Iím not saying Six Pack is 10 lengths better, that would be absurd, but I do believe if the two were to have met that day ( and for that matter Hambo day) Six Pack would have been a length or two victor.

Iíll also throw in Six Packís 150.0 Stanley Dancer tune up for the Hambo

You, I imagine, are of the opinion that Atlanta was the best 3 year old (filly or colt) last year. Any owner would think that, especially when , in the premier race of the year, they win it. 

As to your opinion of me being an asshole, youíre welcome to that    It does seem a bit below a man of your stature, but Iíll chalk it up to you being under a bit of pressure about maybe losing a horse you rightfully love. I didnít create that issue for you, a partner of yours may have. Iíd suggest any venom you have directed at me be directed elsewhere.


taylor was right.

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2019, 08:49:18 AM »
My point being all the publicity ongait is getting because of this

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They donít need to find a seller on there they can have their own auction or take private bids while saving the 4% which is 1% less than zeron gets
gonna start a syndicate betting balmoral, who wants to invest?

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2019, 09:13:53 AM »
IMHO--all the owners of Atlanta including Rick Zeron--got screwed by the ORC.

Atlanta is a great filly,right alongside the best there has ever been in this County.Her speed in the Hambletonian was awesome to watch-gave me goosebumps.

The system of "guilty when charged-and you have to prove your innocence"-goes beyond anything in the USA Constitution or Society-and is what is causing terrible situations to occur-even by the elite in the Sport--system is rotten to the core.

It should rightfully be "innocent until proven guilty".

We now have a situation where GURAL-would not allow RicK Zeron to race at his tracks--even BEFORE he has had a chance to prove his innocence-or explain the findings.

Apparently being under appeal and allowed to race at Gural tracks-only applies when Gural picks his trainers. Rick Zeron  is not one of these select people.

Changing the Commissions standings of Guilty when charged would prevent Gural acting like he does-and also Rick Zeron appearing to be a total ahole.

I can understand somewhat Rick Zerons actions--he made Atlanta-took her to dizzying highs-and loves her. He possibly also feels he has been screwed by the ORC and does not want these group of total dickheads-ruining what he/owners has with his wonder mare.

Its all very sad-and I really wish some high powered Lawyer takes on these Commissions and takes away this ridiculous authority they have of being guilty before allowed to have your chance to prove innocence..


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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2019, 09:18:12 AM »
 AS THE JEWISH TRACK OWNER SAYS

"IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM, BAND THEM"

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2019, 10:32:54 AM »
Only filly to win the Hambo??

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« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2019, 10:37:07 AM »
Only filly to win the Hambo??

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2019, 10:38:22 AM »
I hope the unmarked gastrogard comes with her!!!

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2019, 10:48:01 AM »
Anyone in this thread defending Zeron, doesn't really know Zeron.

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« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2019, 11:16:30 AM »
Crazy situation

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2019, 12:26:34 PM »
IMHO--all the owners of Atlanta including Rick Zeron--got screwed by the ORC.

Atlanta is a great filly,right alongside the best there has ever been in this County.Her speed in the Hambletonian was awesome to watch-gave me goosebumps.

The system of "guilty when charged-and you have to prove your innocence"-goes beyond anything in the USA Constitution or Society-and is what is causing terrible situations to occur-even by the elite in the Sport--system is rotten to the core.

It should rightfully be "innocent until proven guilty".

We now have a situation where GURAL-would not allow RicK Zeron to race at his tracks--even BEFORE he has had a chance to prove his innocence-or explain the findings.

Apparently being under appeal and allowed to race at Gural tracks-only applies when Gural picks his trainers. Rick Zeron  is not one of these select people.

Changing the Commissions standings of Guilty when charged would prevent Gural acting like he does-and also Rick Zeron appearing to be a total ahole.

I can understand somewhat Rick Zerons actions--he made Atlanta-took her to dizzying highs-and loves her. He possibly also feels he has been screwed by the ORC and does not want these group of total dickheads-ruining what he/owners has with his wonder mare.

Its all very sad-and I really wish some high powered Lawyer takes on these Commissions and takes away this ridiculous authority they have of being guilty before allowed to have your chance to prove innocence..

Well said.  Clay Horner is the root of this problem and needs to be shut down. 

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2019, 12:36:19 PM »
Anyone in this thread defending Zeron, doesn't really know Zeron.
Exactly true one hat does not fit all. A number of years back what about the female groom that Zeron was forcing his Johnson in her mouth and everywhere else with the threat if she said anything she would never work anywhere on the backstretch. Well she finally got the nerve and Zeron got a heavy fine and he had to settle monetarily to her. And just so you know she still grooms at the track and Zeron can't go anywhere near her because of a restraining order.

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Re: ONLY FILLY TO WIN THE hambo on auction at ONGAIT?
« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2019, 02:28:35 PM »
mybe they shouldnt give all the horses they own to scumbag trainers  11.mq 11.bz


howard taylor only employs scumbag trainers

 

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