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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 12:10:11 PM »
Biggest problem is JASON BARTLETT-=----he owns several drivers-and the rest all know his tactics and dont want to kill their horse to try to get around him.

This results in WALKATHONS SECOND QUARTER IN ABOUT 90% OF RACES WHEN BARTLETT IS ON FAVORITE.

This is why drivers selecting horses at Yonkers is killing the game.

DO SOMETHING TO STOP IT!!!! ---a) Fine drivers for going slow second 1/4.or b) Do a driver draw when drivers are listed on more than 1(like nearly every race) ie Drivers who are listed on multiple horses cannot make picks. Believe me--it will help racing no end--drivers will HATE it--but its for the good of the sport and handle will go up.
Handle will go up because now--many races where Bartlett is driving the best horse-everyone knows  he will get to front and its over--so odds are total shit-and no one bets.

All been done. When Cammie decided to take out the passing lane it set the racing back 25 years. Only so many changes that can be made on a half. Additionally Cammie also tried to enforce a second quarter rule. Drivers did hate it, as well as the no giving away a hole rule. But that opens the question of tactics, maybe drop someone in to get them out of the way. Again, it's a half and the options are limited. As to hitting the brakes going to the half, they ALL do it. Question should be if this is the racing now, why aren't they pulling the right line like we used to when there was no passing lane. There is no single fix to it, and with every race what works in one may not in another. Four turns will always be four turns.
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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 02:36:31 PM »
Make drivers pick thier horse before race is drawn and draw the races 30 minutes before post time. Driving tactics will change for sure

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019, 03:42:50 PM »
Make drivers pick thier horse before race is drawn and draw the races 30 minutes before post time. Driving tactics will change for sure

Nice idea-but presents problems with advanced wagering. After the entries and BEFORE the draw--drivers must pick their horse if listen on more than 1--then after they pick--you do the draw with impartial people being present.

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2019, 03:51:03 PM »
This is why Jasin*** will always be a wanna be. Should have listened years ago Bondo  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2019, 01:06:04 AM »
How to make Yonkers better:

Step 1: Demolish the track.

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2019, 08:36:11 AM »
This is why Jasin*** will always be a wanna be. Should have listened years ago Bondo  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

I have always agreed with you on Bartlett--hes an OK driver-but place him on a bigger track where he cant pick the best horse all the time-then race against real talented drivers and he will be average.(Like when he represented the USA) However at Yonkers he has found his niche and kudos to him-hes aggressive and his knowledge about horses is spot on-he does his homework.
However-I believe that he and his fellow cohorts-are ruining racing. Not for themselves-hell no-they are cleaning up--but for racing at Yonkers in general.
The races are unattractive to watch in a lot of races hes in--and others as well when 2nd 1/4 become walkathons. I know its tactics and you do what you have to to win--but look at the results!! Post 8 wins are as rare as blue moons and the 6-7 holes are tough unless your horse can leave like a bullet.
Why not try a few races with the 7-8 in trailing positions?? Bring back the passing Lane and start getting tough on slow second 1/4's.!! Plus drivers picking horses is ridiculous. Hell-it used to be when a driver won on your horse-he had to drive it again next start--now he can just get off if he doesnt like the draw.Drivers wield too much power IMHO.
Eg in TBreds whipping is restricted to 7-8 times in a races-with about 3-4 the last 1/16th--I  witnessed Bongiorno hit a horse 27 times in a race-and most drivers hit more than necessary IMHO. When is harness racing going to get tough with this BS?? 7-8 times in a race is more than enough IMHO--with 3-4 the last 1/8th plenty.

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2019, 08:16:41 AM »
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I think we should get rid of all Mile and 7/8th tracks... make them all half or 5/8 ovals for the best in racing and gambling

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2019, 08:17:48 AM »
Bring back
A, B, C classifications

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2019, 09:34:21 AM »
 Class classification may be worth a shot-because now in many conditioned races you see 1/2 shot favorites and 2 or 3 99/1 shots.Makes for poor betting races.
Dont see that in the TBreds-they use the Beyer rating system to classify horses.
I wonder how Ocean Downs and other tracks are doing using the speed rating system?

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2019, 09:36:40 AM »
Class classification may be worth a shot-because now in many conditioned races you see 1/2 shot favorites and 2 or 3 99/1 shots.Makes for poor betting races.
Dont see that in the TBreds-they use the Beyer rating system to classify horses.
I wonder how Ocean Downs and other tracks are doing using the speed rating system?

wtf track uses BSF for conditions?

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2019, 09:44:39 AM »
Make drivers pick thier horse before race is drawn and draw the races 30 minutes before post time. Driving tactics will change for sure


they did that back in the day to Walter Case, had to select his drives before the draw

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2019, 07:36:22 PM »
It's a trainer's game now. Trainer horse driver. In that order. End of story

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Re: YONKERS IS NOW SIMILAR TO WWE
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2019, 05:33:27 PM »
At least Wwf/Wwe is entertaining

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