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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2018, 05:43:52 PM »
GREEN MONKEY SOLD FOR 16 MILLION.

HE DIED THIS YEAR.

LAZARUS WILL BE A DUEL HEMISPHERE STALLION. LET'S SAY HE STANDS FOR 10,000 USD. GET 150 MARES IN FOAL IN BOTH HEMISPHERES

THAT'S 3 MILLION BEFORE EXPENSES. THEY DO THAT FOR 2 YEARS THAT'S 6 MILLION BEFORE EXPENSES. NOT COUNTING WHAT HE MAKES ON

THE TRACK THIS YEAR.

I AM AMAZED AT HOW STUPID SOME POSTERS ARE. I CAN ASSURE TAYLOR MADE FACTORED ALL THIS IN BEFORE BUYING HIM.

AND ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH HE'LL MAKE IF HE HITS AS A SIRE. ONLY KNOCK ON THE PLAN IS THE HORSES AGE. tmbz1











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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2018, 05:51:54 PM »
One of his owners tweeted to Jimmy after watching the race


Replying to @JimmyTakter
Look after him @JimmyTakter he is very special.Happy we made the right decision to give him a chance to show the world how good he is.



1:48.4 is  84zac.1

With the exception of McWicked that was a shit field for FFA's. 11.wp

McWicked got screwed by 3wide crackhead Widger hanging and then Kakaley otherwise Sears gets out is a lot closer turning for home.

Another Classic downunder dud who will crash and burn at stud. 11.gn

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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2018, 06:01:19 PM »
ONLY ONE HORSE CAN STOP HIM BEATING 1:46

Lazarus becoming fastest pacer in history
11 August 2018
by Michael Guerin

The man enjoying the ride behind Kiwi pacing sensation Lazarus says only one horse may be able to stop him becoming the fastest pacer in history.

And that would be Lazarus himself.

Champion driver Yannick Gingras was still buzzing hours after driving Lazarus to a dominant victory in his first North American start, the pair overcoming the outside barrier to lead for the last half of the US$325,000 Dan Patch at Hoosier Park in Indiana on Saturday afternoon (NZ time).

It was Lazarus’s first start in the United States since being sold for an estimated record price of $4million to Taylor Made Stallions.

While he had been the best standardbred in Australasia for two years and qualified in sensational time in the US two weeks ago, any horse traveling to the other side of the world to take on their best comes with question marks.

Lazarus turned those into exclamations marks with his 1:48.8 mile.

The win has already justified his purchase price because with North American breeders now seeing how powerful Lazarus is in full flight he is guaranteed a commercial start to a dual hemisphere stallion career.

That leaves the $3.8million earner with just a couple of major targets that could greatly embellish his reputation — winning at the Breeders Crown in late October and pacing a super fast mile time, close to the world record of 1:46 held by Always B Miki.

But while Gingras says that time may be within Lazraus physical capabilities, the horse himself might need some company.

“A lot of things need to happen to get down to that speed but I think he can do it,” Gingras said.

“I have no doubt with the improvement he has in him he can pace 1:46 and change, maybe even 1:46 flat.

“But to do that you need the right track, the right conditions and the right horses to push you.

“Tonight he would have gone a lot faster if he had needed to and I think he is a horse who will always find more when another horse gets close to him and pushes him.


“So to pace 1:46 he will need all of those things and a horse good enough to push him to that time. Otherwise I don’t think he is a horse who will want to go much faster than he has to to win.


“But anything is possible because he had only had that one qualifier here before tonight’s race so he is obviously going to get better and better.”
Lazraus’s next starts are likely to be in the heat and final of the Canadian Pacing Derby on August 25 and September 1 and yesterday’s win guarantees him a start in the Hoosier Park Derby on September 21.

After that looms the US$500,000 major free-for-all at the rocket fast Red Mile (October 7) in Kentucky, the ideal track to attempt a lightning quick mile.

“Tonight was the perfect starting point. He won, we got to show people how good he is but he wasn’t put under any strain.”

What was it like driving the Kiwi hero?

“It is a real thrill. Driving any great horse is amazing but the novelty around him tonight and the way the race was promoted, and knowing so many people Down Under were watching. It was pretty special.”



The only thing standing between any horse and 1:46.0 IS A BIGGER NEEDLE or LARGER SYRINGE! ngc3 ngc3

Well the obvious answer is themselves!  angbk

This hyped up dud isn't the only horse racing the timer they all are. angbk

There was nothing special about that race. angbk

Ryan Leaf hasn't proven shit yet and his owners better keep praying for soft competition. tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2018, 06:46:23 PM »


 LET'S SAY HE STANDS FOR 10,000 USD. GET 150 MARES IN FOAL IN BOTH HEMISPHERES

THAT'S 3 MILLION BEFORE EXPENSES.

I AM AMAZED AT HOW STUPID SOME POSTERS ARE.

AND ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH HE'LL MAKE IF HE HITS AS A SIRE.
ONLY KNOCK ON THE PLAN IS THE HORSES AGE. tmbz1
Boy,

You are a special kind of stupid.   You throw out he's gonna get 150 mares here and also in Aus/NZ like it's already ordained,

Tell me, who is the last pacing sire to get 150 mares in North America in a single year?  I'll help you.  It was 2009.

You're just another fanboy going goo-goo at the pretty horse and believing every thing you are told.

You should have gone to band camp instead.




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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2018, 07:06:50 PM »
No offense now and maybe Lazarus was short as well as not all out but he beat a really mediocre group of FFA pacers yesterday.

Deal A Winner can't beat these any longer
Bechkhams Z Tam may be the worst horse to ever win a Breeders Crown race
Split the House can't beat Open pacers
Rockin Ron and Bit of A Legend are short track horses
All Bets Off is now 7 and should be 1,000 to 1 vs these.

That leaves McWicked who is good but still needs his trip to win.  Filibuster and E L Hanover plus Rockin Ron x 2 are his beats in his wins and they can't beat these.

Canadian Pacing Derby and Allerage are probably it for him.  Maybe Pocono if he's still good and they are sporting owners but I doubt they put him on a short track.  

Mohawk is 146.4 - Dr J Hanover
Lex is 146.0 - Always B Miki

If he doesn't set the record at Mohawk and at least shade Miki's time, then you have to ask what the hell is the point of the entire $4,000,000.00 exercise?

So far, he's beat a tripped out Split the House and a rough-tripped McWicked.  That is not "SHOW THE WORLD" level stuff.

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To me, Gingras kept his cards close to his chest last night.

Takter will indeed want to "show the world", but that was not the intent in the Dan Patch

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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2018, 07:26:59 PM »
Sportswriter 2018 165, 2017 144, and 2014 156. Otherwise you are correct. Nobody breeds to 150 because simply why would you? Why book a extra 25-50 mares that are probably less then average and will only hurt your numbers going forward. Bettors Delight always had a book of 115-135 over the years because he was proven
 SBSW if he wasn't having a semen issue bred the same. ROCKNROLL Hanover dido. Our you could be Jereme' s Jet and get 125 or Panpacificflight 130 and be a washed out sire in two to three cycles. If your a top sire longevity is the key getting the best book possible even if it's a 100. Besides there are too many bad sires taking up mares in a consolidated sport. If it's 20 years ago maybe but not now.

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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2018, 07:55:36 PM »
Sportswriter 2018 165, 2017 144, and 2014 156. Otherwise you are correct. Nobody breeds to 150 because simply why would you? Why book a extra 25-50 mares that are probably less then average and will only hurt your numbers going forward. Bettors Delight always had a book of 115-135 over the years because he was proven
 SBSW if he wasn't having a semen issue bred the same. ROCKNROLL Hanover dido. Our you could be Jereme' s Jet and get 125 or Panpacificflight 130 and be a washed out sire in two to three cycles. If your a top sire longevity is the key getting the best book possible even if it's a 100. Besides there are too many bad sires taking up mares in a consolidated sport. If it's 20 years ago maybe but not now.


not as many horses being bred as there were in 2007 or so when there were many more, the sport has contracted some

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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2018, 08:21:15 PM »
Nonsense.

He better set some records here.  How many 1:48.2 sons of Bettors Delight does the US market need or want?

Aside from the 3 in his race last night?  

Then there's Betting Line at $10k  Plus the real thing at $15k.

So, tell us, what is the break even production for a $4 Million stallion?

You look like a fool here.



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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2018, 08:27:12 PM »
WOW, Bettor's Delight had been averaging 300 mares per season in NZ up to 2016

https://issuu.com/nzsba/docs/sires_16-17_final_180dpi


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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2018, 08:34:29 PM »
CALHOUN GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU KNOW NOTHING DOUCHE BAG. HE'LL GET 150 OVER SEAS EVERY YEAR. AND EVEN IF HE GET'S 100 TO 120 HERE

THEY MAKE MONEY. YOUR THE BIGGEST KIND OF MORON,YOU KNOW NOTHING BUT THINK YOUR AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING.

TAYLOR MADE HAS FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT MANAGING A HORSE THEN YOU'LL EVER KNOW IN YOUR MADE UP WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE.

SO GO BACK ON THE CORNER WITH YOUR SHINE BOX AND MAKE YOURSELF A COUPLE OF DOLLARS.

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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2018, 08:35:53 PM »
CALHOUN GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU KNOW NOTHING DOUCHE BAG. HE'LL GET 150 OVER SEAS EVERY YEAR. AND EVEN IF HE GET'S 100 TO 120 HERE

THEY MAKE MONEY. YOUR THE BIGGEST KIND OF MORON,YOU KNOW NOTHING BUT THINK YOUR AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING.

TAYLOR MADE HAS FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT MANAGING A HORSE THEN YOU'LL EVER KNOW IN YOUR MADE UP WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE.

SO GO BACK ON THE CORNER WITH YOUR SHINE BOX AND MAKE YOURSELF A COUPLE OF DOLLARS.

he is all talk until the checkbook is summoned  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2018, 08:39:14 PM »
he is all talk until the checkbook is summoned  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

ask luc
im not kidding ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2018, 08:41:27 PM »
he is all talk until the checkbook is summoned  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

ask luc
im not kidding ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

No, you are the one who is all talk, you fat fuck


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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2018, 08:45:43 PM »
CALHOUN GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU KNOW NOTHING DOUCHE BAG. HE'LL GET 150 OVER SEAS EVERY YEAR. AND EVEN IF HE GET'S 100 TO 120 HERE

THEY MAKE MONEY. YOUR THE BIGGEST KIND OF MORON,YOU KNOW NOTHING BUT THINK YOUR AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING.

TAYLOR MADE HAS FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT MANAGING A HORSE THEN YOU'LL EVER KNOW IN YOUR MADE UP WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE.

SO GO BACK ON THE CORNER WITH YOUR SHINE BOX AND MAKE YOURSELF A COUPLE OF DOLLARS.
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Re: Lazurus draws post 9 in the Dan Patch
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2018, 09:40:27 PM »
CALHOUN I TIP MORE THEN YOU MAKE IN A YEAR, HOW MANY HOMES YOU OWN,WITH NO MORTGAGE ON ANY OF THE PROPERTIES?

HURRICANE THAT WAS MY HOMAGE TO GOOD FELLA'S

 

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