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slimshady
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2018, 12:39:40 PM »

EPT  ....   enjoy your tbreds.   The whole worldwide industry is controlled by 24 massively rich people/trusts, surrounded by a bunch of drugged out little midgets riding for them.  Kinda sad really.
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pylon
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2018, 01:22:01 PM »

Pylon and who in Argus though gone directed the board to put Conrad Black at the helm. Black was hand picked by Taylor so before you say misleading get your facts straight.

once again, you are rewriting history, to be polite, or just making things up, to be rude, Black got control through a holdingcompany... he was not anointed by Taylor , so please do some googling and stop spreading nonsense
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Iceman
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2018, 01:31:52 PM »

once again, you are rewriting history, to be polite, or just making things up, to be rude, Black got control through a holdingcompany... he was not anointed by Taylor , so please do some googling and stop spreading nonsense
pylon is a perfect handle for you because if you believe that Taylor had nothing to do with it then , yep your a pylon.
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Artsplace
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2018, 01:41:56 PM »

Slim I was surprised with this rebranding especially when all over NA everyone in harness racing and their bettors knew Mohawk. Let's not forget that the core brain trust at WEG is Thoroughbreds and always will be and that Harness racing has always been the refugee. One thing that has never changed is the greed in that WEG want's it all. What is even more obnoxious is that outside of the core at WEG is that all the new blood that is putting up these new wave ideas to the board has no investment in the game. Why I used the word obnoxious is because why would they do something that is not in the best interest of those who support the Harness side of the business when in reality it all is going into the same pot that is WEG.

Again spreading bullshit. Just stop. Yur embarrasin yurself again. You related to the Woodbine doc Tim Y?
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Iceman
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2018, 01:50:31 PM »

Again spreading bullshit. Just stop. Yur embarrasin yurself again. You related to the Woodbine doc Tim Y?
ok Calhoun or Artsplace whoever the fuck you are and no way related to the foot doctor from BC and a Sartin practitioner.
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Iceman
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2018, 03:17:04 PM »

once again, you are rewriting history, to be polite, or just making things up, to be rude, Black got control through a holdingcompany... he was not anointed by Taylor , so please do some googling and stop spreading nonsense
pylon, Taylor's partner was Montegue Black who was Conrad's father and don't think for a minute that there was not some stipulations put in place, we all take care of our young. It was a natural progression for Revelstoke who Conrad was in charge of when the takeover of Argus happened he would be in charge of Argus.
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pylon
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2018, 03:52:01 PM »

pylon, Taylor's partner was Montegue Black who was Conrad's father and don't think for a minute that there was not some stipulations put in place, we all take care of our young. It was a natural progression for Revelstoke who Conrad was in charge of when the takeover of Argus happened he would be in charge of Argus.

iceman, enough already, it matters not who was in charge of Argus..........yo u are just postering and supposing....offe ring no facts..........We g was desperate for $ they sold the land...Taylor , Black had nothing to do with it
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Iceman
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2018, 03:57:53 PM »

iceman, enough already, it matters not who was in charge of Argus..........yo u are just postering and supposing....offe ring no facts..........We g was desperate for $ they sold the land...Taylor , Black had nothing to do with it
pylon try and stay awake. The reason they sold Greenwood was Charles Taylor called in his trust which put the then OJC in a bind for money, and that is fact that if you asked any Director of the board of WEG now will tell you is fact.
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pylon
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2018, 04:06:34 PM »

pylon, Taylor's partner was Montegue Black who was Conrad's father and don't think for a minute that there was not some stipulations put in place, we all take care of our young. It was a natural progression for Revelstoke who Conrad was in charge of when the takeover of Argus happened he would be in charge of Argus.

ok, so George was Conrads,s father and was dead for almost 20 years prior to the sale..........and anyway WEG/OJC was a non profit operation....your narrative is nonsense, but, hey, believe what you want...have the last word............. .............and remember this  is a US based discussion board, nobody on here cares about what we are talking about...........I just brought it up because a lot of your posts contain fiction and folks should realize that..........ah bye
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Iceman
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2018, 04:12:21 PM »

ok, so George was Conrads,s father and was dead for almost 20 years prior to the sale..........and anyway WEG/OJC was a non profit operation....your narrative is nonsense, but, hey, believe what you want...have the last word............. .............and remember this  is a US based discussion board, nobody on here cares about what we are talking about...........I just brought it up because a lot of your posts contain fiction and folks should realize that..........ah bye
pylon you are the uniformed and as I said before pylon as a handle suits you to a T because you sure are as dumb as a pylon that gets run over every race night, you have taken too many shots.
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pylon
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2018, 04:46:34 PM »

pylon you are the uniformed and as I said before pylon as a handle suits you to a T because you sure are as dumb as a pylon that gets run over every race night, you have taken too many shots.

yep, when you run out of informed opinions, and don't present facts, you just resort to name calling........we ll played sir..
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help
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2018, 04:59:53 PM »

http://www.harnessracingupdate.com/
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Trottin Man
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2018, 08:31:33 AM »

This is exactly what I said in my original post! Pretty cool story though.

WEGCEO Jim Lawson further explained the re-branding in
a HRU on page 5.?We all have sentimentalityabo ut Mohawk
Park.People maycall it Mohawk,people maycall it
Woodbine,but our new customers,international customers,
Internet customers? theydon?t want to go on the Internet
and be confused.And 75 per cent of our wagering ison the
Internet.That?show the world isevolving,?Lawson said.
?Our growth islargelyinternat ional,that iswhere we?ve
seen the growth,in the United Statesand Asia and Australia.
That?swhere we need to take thisbrand.?
Physically,Mohawk will officiallybe known asWoodbine
MohawkPark,but itsstandardbred racing signal will be
Woodbine SB.The thoroughbred signal will be called
Woodbine TB.
Personally,anyone that knowsme isaware that Mohawkis
prettymuch myfavorite place on the planet.In 1998,I took
mywife Kim on our first (blind) date to ?The ?Hawk?and 10
yearslater I proposed to her on one knee in front of the
winner?scircle on arace night.So,at first,I didn?t reallyknow
how to take the name change.But having worked in the
corporate businessworld for several decades,I understand
whycompaniesre-brand certain productsand,in some cases,
their entire corporation.Asan owner,bettor and media
member,I have alot at stake locallyand obviouslyam in
support of anychangesthat will increase businessand
improve the product.I understand the sentimentality
attached to the ?Mohawk?name and I will simplycontinue
referring to mysummer home as?The ?Hawk?asI have been
doing for several decades.But the hoopla in thiscase ? at
least from where I sit ? ismuch ado about nothing,and soon
the focuswill be on the superstarsof the sport showing up
for stakesseason with the corporate name change long
forgotten and the summer meet thriving asalways.
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mwins
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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2018, 09:11:04 AM »

It's a lot like the CFL. For years there were only 9 teams, but 2 of them were named "roughriders" lol.

We will get used to it after a while. But I still don't like it.

In my mind, the Jays still play at the Skydome.
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Duke
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2018, 01:09:49 PM »

Well not a great start to the meet BUT short fields and low quality of horses.

Woodbine 4/5 = $1,617,547 handle
woodbine 4/6 = $1,690,474 handle

Mohawk 4/13 = $1,381,079
mohawk 4/12 = $1,308,791

Handle down $618,151 over 2 days or 15%
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