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Abercrombie
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« on: November 14, 2017, 08:32:12 AM »

Is this normal to see 20-30 per cent cuts? Their purses arenít based on handle. Was there an announcement?
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MR.DALRAE
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 09:39:04 AM »

Same thing every winter
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coldpunch
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 10:26:12 AM »

Same thing every winter

yes--this is standard

the really turn up the heat on Pocono(purse increases) when they are about to open

makes sense--competing for large scale juice stables entries sorely needed to fill races
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augustaandy
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 10:42:04 AM »

little competition soon when Pocono, Chester and Saratoga close


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TWODAYSAWEEKRACING
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 10:52:25 AM »

OPEN 50 to 40....NW30 30 to 25....NW20 22.5 to 20....NW10 17 to 15

50CL 27 to 22.....40CL 24 to 19.....30CL 23 to 17.....25CL 20 to 15....20CL 15 to 13

NW8PM 27 to 22....NW6PM 22 to 17......NW4PM 17 to 12.....NW2PM 12 to 10


these cuts were usually merited when Pocono and Philadelphia closed......this year it has occurred much earlier.....prior purse cut was similar
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 10:54:12 AM »

OPEN 50 to 40....NW30 30 to 25....NW20 22.5 to 20....NW10 17 to 15

50CL 27 to 22.....40CL 24 to 19.....30CL 23 to 17.....25CL 20 to 15....20CL 15 to 13

NW8PM 27 to 22....NW6PM 22 to 17......NW4PM 17 to 12.....NW2PM 12 to 10


these cuts were usually merited when Pocono and Philadelphia closed......this year it has occurred much earlier.....prior purse cut was similar


will there be more cuts?
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TWODAYSAWEEKRACING
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 11:23:44 AM »

pocono closes 11/25   philadelphia 12/17....yonkers closes for 2-3 weeks for christmas so i guess all horsemen will be awaiting the first cond sheet of 2018 to see
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 11:47:41 AM »


will there be more cuts?

Did the Rooneys get their % cut??

Its amazing to me on this site-most everyone thinks horsemen receive too much "welfare"--yet no one says a word about the Rooneys who rape and steal monies from old folks social security checks -through their one armed bandits.

The place looks like a giant retirement home event inside--and Rooneys walk away with over 100 MILLION $$$ a year---never see their funds raided by anyone.

Rooneys get 10x more per year than the earnings of all the horsemen put together-hardly spending a cent on promoting harness or giving harness gamblers incentives--unlike their precious Casino-where comps are everywhere.

Yet they cut horsemen monies-when that money is used to pay so many others-shippers,tolls,truck sales/repair,blacksmiths.vets,grooms,trainers and their families,feed company, farmers,insurance etc etc.

Dont get me wrong--Im highly appreciative of Yonkers racing and giving horsemen a chance to earn a living.

Im just peeved they dont promote racing and give incentives to horse racing gamblers.








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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 01:38:16 PM »

Did the Rooneys get their % cut??

Its amazing to me on this site-most everyone thinks horsemen receive too much "welfare"--yet no one says a word about the Rooneys who rape and steal monies from old folks social security checks -through their one armed bandits.

The place looks like a giant retirement home event inside--and Rooneys walk away with over 100 MILLION $$$ a year---never see their funds raided by anyone.

Rooneys get 10x more per year than the earnings of all the horsemen put together-hardly spending a cent on promoting harness or giving harness gamblers incentives--unlike their precious Casino-where comps are everywhere.

Yet they cut horsemen monies-when that money is used to pay so many others-shippers,tolls,truck sales/repair,blacksmiths.vets,grooms,trainers and their families,feed company, farmers,insurance etc etc.

Dont get me wrong--Im highly appreciative of Yonkers racing and giving horsemen a chance to earn a living.

Im just peeved they dont promote racing and give incentives to horse racing gamblers.


No arguments here bond.   

Absolute slum lords on the horse racing side.   
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 01:41:32 PM »

Did the Rooneys get their % cut??

Its amazing to me on this site-most everyone thinks horsemen receive too much "welfare"--yet no one says a word about the Rooneys who rape and steal monies from old folks social security checks -through their one armed bandits.

The place looks like a giant retirement home event inside--and Rooneys walk away with over 100 MILLION $$$ a year---never see their funds raided by anyone.

Rooneys get 10x more per year than the earnings of all the horsemen put together-hardly spending a cent on promoting harness or giving harness gamblers incentives--unlike their precious Casino-where comps are everywhere.

Yet they cut horsemen monies-when that money is used to pay so many others-shippers,tolls,truck sales/repair,blacksmiths.vets,grooms,trainers and their families,feed company, farmers,insurance etc etc.

Dont get me wrong--Im highly appreciative of Yonkers racing and giving horsemen a chance to earn a living.

Im just peeved they dont promote racing and give incentives to horse racing gamblers.






the massive amount of profits goes to NY State, not to mention the huge licensing fee the Rooney's paid

they also put in a massive investment which they deserve a return on

the horseman's cut, without any investment into the property at all, is roughly 8.75% of all VLT income
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 01:49:22 PM »


the massive amount of profits goes to NY State, not to mention the huge licensing fee the Rooney's paid

they also put in a massive investment which they deserve a return on

the horseman's cut, without any investment into the property at all, is roughly 8.75% of all VLT income

AND DONT THE YONKER WHORESMEN HAVE A COMMITTEE OR REPRESENTATIVE TO MAKE SURE THEY GETTING EXACTLY THE AMOUNT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO?
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 02:36:06 PM »

what would the yonkers purses be without welfare
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 02:55:59 PM »

Need an additional 30% cut ASAP. Terrible racing all around.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 03:10:32 PM »

AND DONT THE YONKER WHORESMEN HAVE A COMMITTEE OR REPRESENTATIVE TO MAKE SURE THEY GETTING EXACTLY THE AMOUNT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO?

they do...THE MANAGER...
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 09:10:45 PM »

what would the yonkers purses be without welfare

That's easy, turn the calendar back 12 years when they were racing 4k claimers. And, the place was in contract to be sold until the VLT law was passed. Yonkers purses would be zero since it would have been condos right now. http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/04/nyregion/waiting-for-the-end-at-yonkers-raceway.html
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