thestable.ca

[Fatboy]

WHEN YOU BUY 120 HORSES ITS EASY TO HAVE A FEW IN THE SHED THAT TURN OUT MAKING A PROFIT BUT 90% WILL BE BOTTOM FEEDERS.

VERY TRUE
PLUS, THIS THESTABLE.CA VIDEOS ARE TERRIBLE!!!  GUY LOVES HIMSELF EVIDENTLY...
DOES MORE SELFIES THAN SPAETH OR MANAGER

[JUICEJUNKIES]

ISNT THIS A PONZI SCHEME?

[Field_In_Motion]

ISNT THIS A PONZI SCHEME?

fair-mar·ket val·ue 

[Sue Lorella]

PEOPLE SHUD JOIN BROTHA LOUKNOWS SINDAKATE. HE BYES DA BEST HORSES UNDER $FREE AND GIVES DEM TO GAS TRAINERS.  BROTHA BATTING PURFECT .00000000001%

[Powerful Patricks Ghost]

http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/blog/anthony-macdonald/8-29-17/trusting-system-and-doing-our-job.html

let's start with all the owners we have etc and great we do... play the sympathy card then address the positive test...

Can't use the "piss excuse" since humans can't excrete alcohol. Beer is given to some horses as an old-fashioned remedy for a few ailments (no pun intended) but they would have had to given the horse beer very close to race time in order to test positive? There is also ethanol in cold medicines, antidiarrheals, as well as a few others.

[Powerful Patricks Ghost]

Curious if the trainer was using something like this:

https://www.equisearch.com/HorseJournal/sweat-that-leg-out

Even the mouthwash Listerine can be used in sweats

That could cause a positive.

[captain morgan]

You guys still talking about something that happened over a year ago, get over it. Shit happens

[Swandre]

I’m sure the owners who invested $17,000 in Swandre The Giant are happy with how things turned out.

[Field_In_Motion]

[dinkadoo]

I don't get why everyone bashes this guy....

Watching the Ohio Championships, which were represented by a few from the The Stable, most of the other horses are owned by big number partnerships. If you watch the runners, there are dozens of these large syndicate own partnership companies. You will see multiple partnership companies even own one horse.

As far as him starting out with a bunch but only a few make money ……. I can tell you every major stable has probably 4 lose money for every 1 that makes money..... Burke, Br Brown, Takter, Alagna….. and on an on..... At least with the partnership it's low money risk for a chance...

I know there are tons of huge/deep pocket member here on Plop that can afford a 50k yearling. But this is a chance to get some new owners or ham and eggers like myself to buy in.

[wiggles44]

Then buy in and you can wash the dishes of the ham and eggers. A select few will break even and they have deep pockets, the rest of you the whole thing will leave a bitter taste in your mouth, not to mention a lighter wallet.

 

[Stan durbread]

Dink, take a few days and go sit by the track at Timoko and watch the show and you will see why people are bashing The Stable!! Besides he is putting lots of small stables out of business by undercutting the average price to train a horse ! I know it sounds nice on paper to pay 2000 a month all in , but with the actual cost run a stable it is not realistic . When this blows up there will be a lot of people holding the bag, including vendors and investors!!

[dinkadoo]

Dink, take a few days and go sit by the track at Timoko and watch the show and you will see why people are bashing The Stable!! Besides he is putting lots of small stables out of business by undercutting the average price to train a horse ! I know it sounds nice on paper to pay 2000 a month all in , but with the actual cost run a stable it is not realistic . When this blows up there will be a lot of people holding the bag, including vendors and investors!!

Stan. actually made some good points.... But it seems like the business model of the industry has changed over the past 5 years. Syndicates are the thing, in harness and the runners. In our sport, the business is dwindling down to a dozen or so trainers that dominate everything. Not just at the stake level, but also at the condition and claiming level racing horses at 3,4,5 tracks a night. Watched a stake race at the Red Mile for 3yo colts. 7 horse field that Alagna had 4 and Takter had 3. this is bad for everyone including the gamblers due to whomever wins, they will think the fix was for THAT horse to win and the rest are a setup.

I just think the business model of the sport has changed from ownership partnerships, to trainers dominating, to tracks being funded by casino's and in McDonalds case he has found a new way to market his skills. I saw he bought seven at the latest Ohio sale. probably has all the shares bought and paid for..... If it's not him, it would be someone else.

[horses first]

Dink is right about partnerships. All these top horses seem to have 3 4 or 5 owners a horse. A trainer usually owns a part. Then these owners have more fire power to buy more yearlings because they are spreading just 20-25% a horse. If they usually buy 5 they can be part 12 or 15 horses and nothing changes on cost level. I noticed something at the Ohio sale and prices thestable.ca paid and then what the actual higher cost was to syndicate. Does anyone know the extra fees?

[slimshady]

Standardbred racing as an owner is just another form of gambling.
People on here seem to think, if you spend big money on a 2 year old and give it to a good trainer, just sit back and wait for the cheques.   If Casie Coleman owned 100% of all the horses she trains, she would be broke in 2 years, even with the Sportswriter stud money coming in.   All the big trainers are simply The Stable at a higher price point.   It's like a casino, there are 100 $5, $10 and $20 tables and there are 5 tables in the high stakes room.   Lot's of $100k yearlings never win enough to pay the training bills, never mind return the $100k and some $10k yearling purchases make enough money to pay all the bills and have some left over.    Obviously, your odds go up with a $100 yearling, but so does the financial risk.       I would love someone to document the last 5 years of any sale, showing the average earnings of yearlings purchased for $50k or more and the average earnings of yearlings purchased for 10k to 49k.