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Re: I'll try rats that sing like a canary for $2,000
« Reply #75 on: September 21, 2021, 10:17:37 AM »
Believe what u want...if u aint in it, u just guessing. tmbz1

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Re: I'll try rats that sing like a canary for $2,000
« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2021, 10:38:27 AM »
Iceman not sure where you got that information. This is a federal case not racing commission or individual states the rules the same across US when dealing with feds

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Re: I'll try rats that sing like a canary for $2,000
« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2021, 12:23:16 PM »
Not one of the indictments has anything to do with racing rules. There are no charges of conspiring to effect the outcome of a sporting event. It is all misuse and misbranding of medication. Rules of racing have no bearing

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Re: I'll try rats that sing like a canary for $2,000
« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2021, 12:29:29 PM »
FEDERAL CHARGES ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM STATE CHARGES.  IN FACT YOU MAY BE SERVING TIME IN A FEDERAL PRISION AND THEN BE CHARGED BY THE STATE AND BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE FEDERAL PRISION TO THE STATE PRISION ( USUALLY A HOLDING MDC) UNTIL CHARGES ARE HEARD AND PLED OUT.   I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN MANY TIMES.   

I REALIZE DOUBLE JEOPARDY BUT THE STATE AND FEDERAL CHARGES DO NOT WORK HAND IN HAND.  IN FACT THE INDICTED MAY STILL BE CHARGED BY THE STATE.  EVEN IF YOU ARE AN INFORMANT TO THE FEDS--THE STATE MAY STILL BRING CHARGES FOR THE CRIMES IN THAT STATE.   SO, ANYONE WHO BECAME AN INFORMANT MAY STILL BE CHARGED BY THE STATE.

A RECENT CASE IN PHILADELPHIA HAD A CONTRACTOR SENTENCED TO 5 YEARS IN FEDERAL PRISION AND HE WAS SERVING HIS TIME IN THE FEDERAL SYSTEM .  HE HAD TAKEN DEPOSITS IN VARIOUS STATES FOR REMODELING HOMES IN THE TUNE OF SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS---WHILE HE WAS SERVING HIS FEDERAL SENTENCE THE STATE FILED CHARGES FOR THE SAME CRIMES THAT OCCURRED IN PENNSYLVANIA----SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE HIS RELEASE THE STATE SENT THEIR TRANSPORT TEAM TO PICK HIM UP FROM THE FEDS TO BE OFFICIALLY CHARGED IN THE STATE.   HE IS BEING HELD ON NEW STATE CHARGES !!!!

IT IS NOT OVER FOR THESE FOLKS IF THE STATES WANT TO PURSUE THEM CRIMINALLY!!!!

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL OCCUR BUT LEGALLY IT CAN OCCUR IF THE RIGHT POWERS TO BE GET BEHIND STATE INDICTMENTS TO MAKE THIS OCCUR.

TIME WILL TELL.

THE FEDERAL LAWS SUPERCEDE ANY RULES/REGULATIONS BY ANY STATE ORGANIZATION.  THE FEDS COULD CARE LESS ABOUT RACING COMMISSIONS OR RACING RULES FROM THE USTA.  COMPLETELY A NON ISSUE.  IN FACT THE STATE RULES DID NOT COME INTO PLAY ON ANY OF THE CHARGED THAT I CAN SEE. 

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THE STATES FOLLOW THRU AND FILE NEW CHARGES ON THOSE THAT THINK THEY MAY WALK.   THE STATUTES HAVE BEEN TOLLED IN THIS CASE.

 

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