WEG CORRUPTION AGCO

[Papillon]

lost cause ,,,,,,,,,,keep your name its perfect and go to most bookmaking sites and no one is interested in booking horse racing and if i knew you well i would take that offer and retire,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,100 PERCENT THE WORST POST I HAVE EVER SEEN

not sure about the worse but it ranks up there as far as the bets after the race starts

[lost cause]

so monday 5 out of 10 races won by leavers, sat 3 out 12 races won by leavers. i dont know how many of those actually show leaving on program but that doesnt seem like a big advantage

[Papillon]

so monday 5 out of 10 races won by leavers, sat 3 out 12 races won by leavers. i dont know how many of those actually show leaving on program but that doesnt seem like a big advantage

duh--all of this has absolutely with nothing to do with who wins the race

its about the odds drop on the first turn--if you can see the first 1/8th of a mile then bet--that is a big advantage

[pocketrocketwinner]

here is the proof that pocketrocket was looking for--thanks

This is the proof that these wagers were placed somewhere in the first turn of the race? You have to be kidding. But if you think this is proof, why wouldn't you take this to the authorities? Your accusation is of a very serious crime that could bring a serious class action suit. You believe to have proof. Why not use it to tear down this corruption you know is occurring?

[Any1Left]

Pocket ROCKET,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am going to assume that you have been around for a while as not to many new people have entered the arena of standardbred horse racing,,,,,,,,,,,In my younger days BILL ROBINSON DOMINATED racing like no other in the sport from claimers to FFA HORSES AND BABIES and a first time Robinson was gold and paper did not matter as it was usually a new horse that appeared and not one regular horse player thought it was legit and many complained and no person ever got a response that we need to do something and every year we as fans looked at BILL IN  a tuxedo receiving all year end results and this seemed to never end,,,,,,,,, At the big m it was GELROD AND WEBSTER two super trainers that were part of this stable and RON WAPLES,john cambell RANDY WAPLES AND jackie mo made a huge living off this great trainer that never gets talked about today,,,,,,,,,,,, His two sons that were going to take over after his passing somewhere forgot how to train but seemed to run the stable very well while he was alive ..........Today we have no memory of anything BILL ROBINSON as no horse he trained or he himself have an award named in his honour,,,,,,,,,,,,, Now i remember a former school teacher writing out 100s of complaints for years and one day he had a no trespassing issued against him,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have read many times over the years that why would this person risk using drugs and how do you answer a question that needs no answer to a every day gambler and truth is BILL ROBINSON TESTED positive way less than one percent as did lance armstrong and every drug cheat ever,,,,,,,,,, No trainer in the history of racing was more obvious about cheating than LOU PENA as his claims let the screen and made brennan look like a fool but he was interviewed on standarbred.ca and the USTA AND THE PRE GAME SHOW AT THE BIGM AS THE UP AND COMING TRAINER and i could feel more save that he was cheating than OJ killing his wife,,,,,,,,,,,Now to your post are people beating the system and the answer is it would be equal to LOU PENA using drugs as it is a no brainer,,,,,,,,

[firhill]

Get rid of the silly fair start pole and rename it the wagering cut-off pole.

[pocketrocketwinner]

If anyone wants to learn about this topic from actual professionals with viable information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3Rqrtf0RQ

spoiler, what you will not learn from this video is that CAWs are paying 10k a month to the Redmile to place their wagers on the first turn or that CAW's increase takeout by double.

[Any1Left]

I do not believe that the big players off the past would of ever let this happen but most are gone or dead and never really met a horseman that gave a crap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,