Author Topic: Enough SCM threads please!  (Read 11478 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

SeattleSlew

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 698
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2023, 07:15:27 AM »
Show that to me in print, because my memory says different.

I know that in 1970, when Carmine was laid up in the hospital for a while, Marion was training his horses.  Not sure if he drove much, except in qualifiers??

Fuguzzi

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3104
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2023, 07:17:29 AM »
Loved watching her race!  Hardly ever missed one!
Certainky not advocating racing horses that are unsound, but I remember one race at the M, she had the 6 hole. She looked like she couldn't walk when she hit the track. Steve kept scoring her down hard as if he was trying to "work it out". Then she went out and dominated the boys. ;D

Emperor Dapple

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1204
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2023, 07:18:55 AM »
His name was Marion Dover Tolson.. As previous poster said in 1970 he was an assistant trainer to Carmine Abbatiello.. He was a tall guy 6"2 and a little over 200lbs.. He started down in Baltimore and came up to NY in 60's.. Very nice guy..

Fuguzzi

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3104
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2023, 07:20:18 AM »
I know that in 1970, when Carmine was laid up in the hospital for a while, Marion was training his horses.  Not sure if he drove much, except in qualifiers??
Top horseman. He caught my attention as a kid . I could swear his name was Marion "Dolber" Tolson, but OLDGUY says I am wrong. Can you confirm? Thanks...

Emperor Dapple

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1204
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2023, 07:22:09 AM »
Top horseman. He caught my attention as a kid . I could swear his name was Marion "Dolber" Tolson, but OLDGUY says I am wrong. Can you confirm? Thanks...

it's confirmed it's Dover

Fuguzzi

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3104
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2023, 07:22:17 AM »
His name was Marion Dover Tolson.. As previous poster said in 1970 he was an assistant trainer to Carmine Abbatiello.. He was a tall guy 6"2 and a little over 200lbs.. He started down in Baltimore and came up to NY in 60's.. Very nice guy..
ok  I apologize. Its DOVER.  Yes, a very nice, polite accomplished trainer.

Emperor Dapple

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1204
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2023, 07:26:28 AM »
ok  I apologize. Its DOVER.  Yes, a very nice, polite accomplished trainer.

As a side note , Dover wasn't his real name.. It was a nickname as he was born in Dover , Delaware

Fuguzzi

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3104
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2023, 07:31:04 AM »
Well That part I knew. It was Marion. I mentioned that in each post. At his size, he struck an imposing figure to me as a kid on the backstretch.  Weird, what you remember.

SeattleSlew

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 698
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2023, 09:14:28 PM »
Well That part I knew. It was Marion. I mentioned that in each post. At his size, he struck an imposing figure to me as a kid on the backstretch.  Weird, what you remember.

This is a great article about him.  The link will bring up a NY Times "Archvie" article, which is a paid service, but you get one "free" article.  When the window comes up, just click "continue" and it will take you to the article (which also includes a photo of him and, as a bonus, the RR entries for that evening!!)

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1968/11/18/81540320.html?pageNumber=68

Fuguzzi

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 3104
Re: Enough SCM threads please!
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2023, 12:14:47 AM »
This is a great article about him.  The link will bring up a NY Times "Archvie" article, which is a paid service, but you get one "free" article.  When the window comes up, just click "continue" and it will take you to the article (which also includes a photo of him and, as a bonus, the RR entries for that evening!!)

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1968/11/18/81540320.html?pageNumber=68
Ty  I found a different piece in the Times about Black horseman. In those days, 1972, The Times still used the word Negro to refer to them.

 

shout out

Refresh History
  • Sound off !
  • wiggles44: Thanks LockedIn.  Your husband has his own account here :)
    Today at 02:46:10 PM
  • Sweet: Calhoun, how's your "tootsie roll"  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 LWP  tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
    Today at 02:37:05 PM
  • Sweet: "Yeh" it's great grammar without a period :)
    Today at 02:33:18 PM
  • Lockedin with Pace: wiggles44---Your grammar was incorrect on the Vandalism thread so I corrected it for you. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, and don't ask me if I'm still using my husband's account.
    Today at 02:32:38 PM
  • Ignorance Is Bliss: No period? Yeah, it's great.
    Today at 02:27:03 PM
  • wiggles44: Mine is great Mike
    Today at 02:26:23 PM
  • Sweet: Wiggle, your grammar is terrible - Sweet
    Today at 02:20:55 PM
  • Sweet: Calhoun  ngc3 talk about 20 years to fuck up a fake name  ;D
    Today at 02:20:18 PM
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2026, SimplePortal