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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2022, 11:56:42 PM »
  Nice to see history repeating itself at the integrity laden Pig M.

   
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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2022, 12:38:53 AM »
THE SYSTEM IS FLAWED.   I HAVE WITNESSED MANY FLAWS IN THE SYSTEMS BY TRACKS/COMMISSIONS THAT PERMIT HORSES TO BE DROPPED OFF FOR LASIX AND THE TRAINER LEAVES THE HORSE WITHOUT A GROOM AND THE CARE AND CUSTODY PASSES TO THE TRACK AND /OR THE FOLKS ADMISTERING THE LASIX.   THE SHIP IN BARN IS NOT A SAFE PLACE.  MOST TRACKS HAVE HORSES NOW SHIPPING IN DAILY AS THEY DO NOT PROVIDE STABLING ANYMORE. 

ONCE THE HORSE IS OUT OF THE CONTROL/CUSTODY OF THE LISTED TRAINER AND/OR THEIR EMPLOYEE THERE IS REASONAL DOUBT AND THAT A GOOD ATTORNEY WILL WIN THIS CASE EVERY TIME AND PLEASE RECALL EVERYTHING IS APPEALABLE THRU THE COURTS.   I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT EVEN IF YOU HAVE A GUILTY VERDICT IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS THAT YOU CAN APPEAL TO THE SUPERIOR COURT AND MOST LIKELY WILL WIN THESE CASES AS THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY HAS BEEN BROKEN AND THERE CANNOT BE ANY PROOF OR GUARANTEE WHO ADMINSTERED ANY DRUG UNLESS THERE IS SURVELLIENCE OR WITNESSES.

EITHER WAY THIS IS A BAD SITUATION FOR ALL BUT TRUTHFULLY, IF THERE IS TO BE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD THERE MUST BE NO QUESTION REGARDING THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY AND CONTROL.   MY IMMEDIATE QUESTION WOULD BE TO DETERMINE WHAT RESEARCH THE TRACK HAS DONE ON THE EMPLOY OF MOST TRACK EMPLOYEES AND TO INVESTIGATE THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND AGAIN, THE CONSTITUTION PROVIDES PROTECTION FOR THESE FOLKS.   THIS IS AND HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE.

I AM NOT SURE WHO THIS CAN BE SOLVED OTHER THAN ADDED EXPENSE AND TRACK EMPLOYEES THAT ARE LICENSED AND BONDED AND ALL STALLS IN PADDOCK VIDEO PROTECTED AND RECORDED.   ADDED EXPENSE BUT THERE MUST BE EVIDENCE THAT THESE HORSES HAVE NOT BEEN VIOLATED BY OTHERS THAN THE OWNER, TRAINER OF GROOM.

TOUGH SCENE AND I TRULY AM AT WITS END HOW TO PROTECT THE SPORT SINCE IT IS SO LOOSELY MANAGED.   

WE NEED  SET OF SYSTEMS AND PROCEDURES THAT PROTECT THE OWNERS, DRIVERS, DRIVERS AND ESPECIALLY THE BETTING PUBLIC.   IT WILL COST MONEY BUT IT WILL HELP THE INDUSTRY REGAIN TRUST.   AS FOR TODAY THERE IS NOT TRUST BY THE PUBLIC AND THE BETTING HANDLE IS BEING HURT BY THIS.

HOPEFULLY, SOMEONE WILL STEP TO THE PLATE AND BE A LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY AND PROMOTE RACING IN AN HONORABLE WAY!!!!  MORALS AND ETHICS STILL LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY---WE JUST NEED TO IMPLEMENT THE SYSTEM AND PROCEDURES TO PROTECT ALL PARTIES.

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2022, 05:28:58 AM »
The tracks are owned by casinos who down deep want racing to go away. It's an added expense that affects their bottom line.  And Like all Public companies.  they only care about their shareholders. There iS NO WAY THE TRACKS WILL SPEND A PENNY MORE ON SECURITY. This is a tough situation to be in

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2022, 06:51:58 AM »
When in college a long time ago I remember a professor saying “you can delegate authority but you cannot delegate responsibility”.   Maybe that was just his interpretation .

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2022, 11:20:18 AM »
If your horse is in to race the law is he gets nothing if you want to play with the rule you should get the book thrown at you.

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2022, 11:34:10 PM »
ALL GREAT POINTS!   THE LAW PROFESSOR IS CORRECT!!  I AM NOT SURE HOW THE SMALL STABLE CAN AFFORD TO HAVE A GROOM WITH A HORSE WAITING THREE HOURS FOR LASIX WHEN THEY HAVE 5 MORE TO JOG!!!!!   VERY TRICKY.   

I AGREE THAT THE CASINOS WILL NOT SHOULDER ANY MORE EXPENSES AND THAT THEY WANT RACING GONE---FOREVER!!!

THIS WILL CONTINUE TO GET WEAKER AND WEAKER !!!!  THIS HUGE MESS WITH SO MANY ON THE LIST WILL TRULY CREATE A MASSIVE ISSUE FOR RACING MOVING FORWARD!!!

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2022, 03:08:38 AM »
The list is meaningless some people on that list have been dead for years . Others on the list haven't trained horses for 20 years or more. Also Fishman was selling legal medication cheaper than veterinarians . Unless there is evidence to prove what each individual bought the list proves nothing

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2022, 06:28:35 AM »
The list is meaningless some people on that list have been dead for years . Others on the list haven't trained horses for 20 years or more. Also Fishman was selling legal medication cheaper than veterinarians . Unless there is evidence to prove what each individual bought the list proves nothing


NO FUCKING SHIT.  THIS LIST PROVES HOW STUPID YOU ARE FUCKTARD...

 YOU ALL ARE FUCKING CHEATS

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2022, 08:34:17 AM »
ALL GREAT POINTS!   THE LAW PROFESSOR IS CORRECT!!  I AM NOT SURE HOW THE SMALL STABLE CAN AFFORD TO HAVE A GROOM WITH A HORSE WAITING THREE HOURS FOR LASIX WHEN THEY HAVE 5 MORE TO JOG!!!!!   VERY TRICKY.   

I AGREE THAT THE CASINOS WILL NOT SHOULDER ANY MORE EXPENSES AND THAT THEY WANT RACING GONE---FOREVER!!!

THIS WILL CONTINUE TO GET WEAKER AND WEAKER !!!!  THIS HUGE MESS WITH SO MANY ON THE LIST WILL TRULY CREATE A MASSIVE ISSUE FOR RACING MOVING FORWARD!!!

The only person concerned with this list is Gural & if doing the right thing would hurt Gural's bottom line he will turn the other cheek & sweep it under the table as he has done before. This list is NOT a huge mess & will NOT create a massive issue imo.

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2022, 08:34:28 AM »
WILL ALL  THE SNITCHES BE ALLOWED BACK AT

IGM TIAGO AND VERNON

OR JUST CERTAIN PET FAVORITES OF THE KINGIM ASKIN CUS MY UNEMPLOYED PAL NEEDS WORK

PLS ADVISE WHOM EVER KNOWS

THKS


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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2022, 09:37:44 AM »
WILL ALL  THE SNITCHES BE ALLOWED BACK AT

IGM TIAGO AND VERNON

OR JUST CERTAIN PET FAVORITES OF THE KINGIM ASKIN CUS MY UNEMPLOYED PAL NEEDS WORK

PLS ADVISE WHOM EVER KNOWS

THKS


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I don't think anyone at Vernon really knows how to read, so likely yes. 


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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2022, 02:31:29 PM »

NO FUCKING SHIT.  THIS LIST PROVES HOW STUPID YOU ARE FUCKTARD...
More to the point what a a piece of shit you are, you obviously are the biggest loser on here. Lost what little money you had. What a miserable life you must have, go find something else to troll. Harness racing will still be around when yoo are dead and gone you POS

 YOU ALL ARE FUCKING CHEATS

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Re: Another Gural Employee Positive!?!
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2022, 03:36:54 PM »
Last time I checked this is a forum-where people express opinions.
Now you are entitled to your opinion here in USA-and I am also.
LoL .  I apologize

That said ... Your opinion is for shit. 

Thnaks

 

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