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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on December 10, 2023, 11:51:08 AM
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39078719/shohei-ohtani-contract-los-angeles-dodgers-passan
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Who's going to beat the Dodger's with that line up? Maybe the Astros certainly not the Yankees.
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Who's going to beat the Dodger's with that line up? Maybe the Astros certainly not the Yankees.
IF U FOLLOW BASEBALL I DO
DODGERS ALWAYS SEEM TO CHOKLE LATELY MM
THE ANGELS HAD THIS GUY ALONG WITH MIKE TROUT DID NOTHIN
BECAUSE HES AN INTERNATIONAL AND THE BULLSHIT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT
THE IDIOT AMERICAN COMPANIES TRYIN TO KISS ASS 24!7 ..
WAY OVERATED HE AINT BETTER THAN AARON JUDGE ,,\\
FCK HIM AND FCK THE DODGERS AND FUCK THAT CHEAP ASS TOMMY LASORDA ,,
HATE THAT FCKIN ORGINIZATION
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a lot of money for a guys who is going to bat 4-5 times per game and nothing else, at least for 2024 but who knows after that
what a joke
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IF U FOLLOW BASEBALL I DO
DODGERS ALWAYS SEEM TO CHOKLE LATELY MM
THE ANGLES AND THIS UY ALONG WITH MIKE TROUT DID NOTHIN
BECAUSE HES AN INTERNATIONAL AND THE BULLSHIT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT
THE IDIOT AMERICAN COMPANIES TRYIN TO KISS ASS 24!7 ..
WAY OVERATED HE AINT BETTER THAN AARON JUDGE ,,\\
FCK HIM AND FCK THE DODGERS AND FUCK THAT CHEAP ASS TOMMY LASORDA ,,
HATE THAT FCKIN ORGINIZATION
Hey I’m a Yankee fan I’m just calling it the way I see it. As far as I’m concerned, the Yankees only have one pitcher. Hal needs to reach in his pockets.
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Hey I’m a Yankee fan I’m just calling it the way I see it. As far as I’m concerned, the Yankees only have one pitcher. Hal needs to his pockets.
yankees going after the japanese kid supposed to be a nice pitcher
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yankees going after the japanese kid supposed to be a nice pitcher
Let’s hope! Garrett can only carry them so far as proven.
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yankees going after the japanese kid supposed to be a nice pitcher
I can promise you this...If Yankees don't make playoffs this year, Boone and Cashman are toast.
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Never mind the obscene 10 year $700 million for a baseball player........Jon Rahm the golfer is reported to be getting $450-600 MILLION for only 3 years from the Saudi LIV tour!
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Never mind the obscene 10 year $700 million for a baseball player........Jon Rahm the golfer is reported to be getting $450-600 MILLION for only 3 years from the Saudi LIV tour!
ESPN reported 300 mil three yrs
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Dodgers after signing are 5.5 to 1 to win it all....they aren't 2 to 1
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I can promise you this...If Yankees don't make playoffs this year, Boone and Cashman are toast.
Definitely 💯
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Dodgers after signing are 5.5 to 1 to win it all....they aren't 2 to 1
You’d think they’d be 1-5 with that line up. I guess it’s because they still need pitching. The Yankees need pitching as well.
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Nothing is ever assured no matter how much an owner spends on players. 2023 was a perfect example of that in BB. Scherzer, Verlander, Judge, Renton, Trout, Cole, Seager, Arenado, Strasberg and Linder were the highest paid MLB players in 2023. Only Seager saw the World Series with Texas. Good luck to the Dodgers paying Ohtani’s $700 million and they need to pray he doesn’t get hurt as a everyday player.
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Nothing is ever assured no matter how much an owner spends on players. 2023 was a perfect example of that in BB. Scherzer, Verlander, Judge, Renton, Trout, Cole, Seager, Arenado, Strasberg and Linder were the highest paid MLB players in 2023. Only Seager saw the World Series with Texas. Good luck to the Dodgers paying Ohtani’s $700 million and they need to pray he doesn’t get hurt as a everyday player.
I definitely agree who would ever thought that the Rangers would win it all and the collapse of the Yankees!
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Nothing is ever assured no matter how much an owner spends on players. 2023 was a perfect example of that in BB. Scherzer, Verlander, Judge, Renton, Trout, Cole, Seager, Arenado, Strasberg and Linder were the highest paid MLB players in 2023. Only Seager saw the World Series with Texas. Good luck to the Dodgers paying Ohtani’s $700 million and they need to pray he doesn’t get hurt as a everyday player.
Actually Scherzer won the series with Texas but I understand your point.
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Mike u r correct but I included Scherzer as a Met since they gave him the contract.
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IF U FOLLOW BASEBALL I DO
DODGERS ALWAYS SEEM TO CHOKLE LATELY MM
THE ANGELS HAD THIS GUY ALONG WITH MIKE TROUT DID NOTHIN
BECAUSE HES AN INTERNATIONAL AND THE BULLSHIT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT
THE IDIOT AMERICAN COMPANIES TRYIN TO KISS ASS 24!7 ..
WAY OVERATED HE AINT BETTER THAN AARON JUDGE ,,\\
FCK HIM AND FCK THE DODGERS AND FUCK THAT CHEAP ASS TOMMY LASORDA ,,
HATE THAT FCKIN ORGINIZATION
Fuck Tommy Lasorda. ngc3 ngc3
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Geez guys the old mgr is dead!
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Zimmer would have KO'd Lasorda in 5 seconds
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Zimmer would have KO'd Lasorda in 5 seconds
I’m not so sure of that. Pedro Martinez knocked out Zim pretty easily.
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ESPN reported 300 mil three yrs
WSJ says higher.
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I can remember George Steinbrenner saying he would never pay a player 1 Million dollars for 1 season
yes that was 35-37 years ago
but 70 mill, fucking joke.
Their box seats will look like the Yankees, empty because of the costs.
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I’m not so sure of that. Pedro Martinez knocked out Zim pretty easily.
I always liked the white rat.
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Love him or hate him, Lasorda was funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjWQF1oP2M
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Love him or hate him, Lasorda was funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjWQF1oP2M
Always liked Tommy. I had no idea he helped launch Mike Piazza’s career. I think he was friends with Mike’s dad.
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Always liked Tommy. I had no idea he helped launch Mike Piazza’s career. I think he was friends with Mike’s dad.
Tommy is Mike's brother's Godfather
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I for one certainly don't understand what the business of sports has turned into in order to pay a player $700 million. I don't care if it's over ten years or twenty. Will our grandchildren be talking about this guy like we talk about Ruth? Mantle? Mays? Rose? Even if he goes down as one of the ten greatest players of all time -- and I for one don't think he's near there yet -- this is what the world, the business of sports, has become?
He's done what he's done for what, five years? Six? Seven? OK, I get it, he hits and pitches. Sure, he's the pink unicorn, but $700 million? Is he going to impact a game, the season, a team, the game itself to justify that? I've heard him called the most talented baseball player in the history of the game. However, how much of an impact that title -- and this player -- make?
This is the largest player contract in the history of professionals team sports. It's the largest in all of professional sports. Based upon today's dollars, how much would Ali have been paid? In today's dollars, and he's not far off his prime, what about Cristiano Ronaldo? Lionel Messi? He allegedly got $674 million, but even that is a bit distorted as it was still tied to endorsements and endorsement dollars. I know crap but I said no way was Patrick Mahomes worth $450 million.
I spoke with a friend of mine who is a sports agent, and he said this number was far bigger than even professionals expected. It was almost twice as big as the next best free agent deal. While he told me LA is the team best positioned to maximize and leverage his value, image, marketing, and so on, however, at the end of the day there is still the series of questions -- how much are they going to make on him? How much is he actually going to win you, for you, etc.? Is this guy a commodity that can generate revenue, ticket sales, merchandise, and so on like Magic, Bird, Shaq, even more an MJ, or LeBron, and others, and be the cultural icon of a Messi or Ronaldo
Two major elbow surgeries? Taking him out to age 39 (yes, the contract had to be structured that way)? I get that a lot of the money is "deferred" and that can mean a lot. My friend said the "real" value could be as low as $40mm a year, but at the end of the day, somehow $700 million becomes a real number. Even if you get a discount, that $700 million could have been on your side of the ledger.
I guess in the end, when does the number reach $1 billion? Does the player become more "valuable" or more "expensive" than the team?
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ESPN reported 300 mil three yrs
Why are you worried about other people’s money? Someone once said that on horseplop. Just askin for a friend ;)
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I for one certainly don't understand what the business of sports has turned into in order to pay a player $700 million. I don't care if it's over ten years or twenty. Will our grandchildren be talking about this guy like we talk about Ruth? Mantle? Mays? Rose? Even if he goes down as one of the ten greatest players of all time -- and I for one don't think he's near there yet -- this is what the world, the business of sports, has become?
He's done what he's done for what, five years? Six? Seven? OK, I get it, he hits and pitches. Sure, he's the pink unicorn, but $700 million? Is he going to impact a game, the season, a team, the game itself to justify that? I've heard him called the most talented baseball player in the history of the game. However, how much of an impact that title -- and this player -- make?
This is the largest player contract in the history of professionals team sports. It's the largest in all of professional sports. Based upon today's dollars, how much would Ali have been paid? In today's dollars, and he's not far off his prime, what about Cristiano Ronaldo? Lionel Messi? He allegedly got $674 million, but even that is a bit distorted as it was still tied to endorsements and endorsement dollars. I know crap but I said no way was Patrick Mahomes worth $450 million.
I spoke with a friend of mine who is a sports agent, and he said this number was far bigger than even professionals expected. It was almost twice as big as the next best free agent deal. While he told me LA is the team best positioned to maximize and leverage his value, image, marketing, and so on, however, at the end of the day there is still the series of questions -- how much are they going to make on him? How much is he actually going to win you, for you, etc.? Is this guy a commodity that can generate revenue, ticket sales, merchandise, and so on like Magic, Bird, Shaq, even more an MJ, or LeBron, and others, and be the cultural icon of a Messi or Ronaldo
Two major elbow surgeries? Taking him out to age 39 (yes, the contract had to be structured that way)? I get that a lot of the money is "deferred" and that can mean a lot. My friend said the "real" value could be as low as $40mm a year, but at the end of the day, somehow $700 million becomes a real number. Even if you get a discount, that $700 million could have been on your side of the ledger.
I guess in the end, when does the number reach $1 billion? Does the player become more "valuable" or more "expensive" than the team?
I agree with everything you wrote. The explanation on why the Dodgers are paying him 7 bills comes down to one word which is hard to believe but true and that is MERCHANDISE. He is International and will be worth billions in MERCHANDISE.
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2024 LA Dodger bleacher seat: $500
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1.) The winning team in a World Series picks up $35mm EXTRA dollars. The losing team picks up about $25mm
2.) The Dodgers have the highest attendance in MLB at 3.8mm approx. Their stadium could handle about 650,000 more. If they only increase average home attendance back to their 2019 level, they will pick up 81 x 2500 x $165 (which is 81 games, 2500 more fans/game at the average ticket price of $165.) That works out to $33mm dollars
3.) As Mike noted, the merchandise sales are HUGE Worldwide.. don't know the exact $$ involved.
4.) A top DH with his stats would command $30mm/year. If he can pitch for 5 or 6 of his 10 years at a high level, that would be worth another $20-25mm/year. Also, if he can both pitch and hit, he effectively frees up a roster spot that would be taken by another starter or offensive player.
5.) The deferrals bring the present value down of his contract to $57mm/year.
THIS MOVE HAS NOT RUINED PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, and will almost certainly turn out to be a good move for the Dodgers financially.
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they needed to add an arm as Kershaw not the same pitcher
that said, they have huge revenue streams, they can afford it
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THE BIG ISSUE IS THAT MAYBE 2 TEAMS IN ALL OF BASEBALL CAN DO WHAT THE DODGERS ARE DOING AND 99.9% OF THE TEAMS DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ( AND CAN'T)
IN THE LONG RUN, THIS WILL HURT BASEBALL AND MORE STRINGENT RULES WILL BE PUT IN PLACE.
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Tommy is Mike's brother's Godfather
tmbz1
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I for one certainly don't understand what the business of sports has turned into in order to pay a player $700 million. I don't care if it's over ten years or twenty. Will our grandchildren be talking about this guy like we talk about Ruth? Mantle? Mays? Rose? Even if he goes down as one of the ten greatest players of all time -- and I for one don't think he's near there yet -- this is what the world, the business of sports, has become?
He's done what he's done for what, five years? Six? Seven? OK, I get it, he hits and pitches. Sure, he's the pink unicorn, but $700 million? Is he going to impact a game, the season, a team, the game itself to justify that? I've heard him called the most talented baseball player in the history of the game. However, how much of an impact that title -- and this player -- make?
This is the largest player contract in the history of professionals team sports. It's the largest in all of professional sports. Based upon today's dollars, how much would Ali have been paid? In today's dollars, and he's not far off his prime, what about Cristiano Ronaldo? Lionel Messi? He allegedly got $674 million, but even that is a bit distorted as it was still tied to endorsements and endorsement dollars. I know crap but I said no way was Patrick Mahomes worth $450 million.
I spoke with a friend of mine who is a sports agent, and he said this number was far bigger than even professionals expected. It was almost twice as big as the next best free agent deal. While he told me LA is the team best positioned to maximize and leverage his value, image, marketing, and so on, however, at the end of the day there is still the series of questions -- how much are they going to make on him? How much is he actually going to win you, for you, etc.? Is this guy a commodity that can generate revenue, ticket sales, merchandise, and so on like Magic, Bird, Shaq, even more an MJ, or LeBron, and others, and be the cultural icon of a Messi or Ronaldo
Two major elbow surgeries? Taking him out to age 39 (yes, the contract had to be structured that way)? I get that a lot of the money is "deferred" and that can mean a lot. My friend said the "real" value could be as low as $40mm a year, but at the end of the day, somehow $700 million becomes a real number. Even if you get a discount, that $700 million could have been on your side of the ledger.
I guess in the end, when does the number reach $1 billion? Does the player become more "valuable" or more "expensive" than the team?
You're right on the money but how much does he bring to the table in terms of world wide revenue for the Dodgers?
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You're right on the money but how much does he bring to the table in terms of world wide revenue for the Dodgers?
I don't know, how much? $1 billion? For the Dodgers? I can see this guy generating massive endorsement revenue, for himself! But for the Dodgers? $1 billion? From what? Selling jerseys? Bats? Helmets? Season tickets? Is a corporate sponsor going to sign on for major money because of him? To have their name and product seen in the ballpark all season? My sports agent said for this athlete, himself, personally, the sky could be the limit, if he strikes now, moves fast, gets some real substance out in the marketplace (he said like the "Just do it" campaign or the "Bo knows" campaign), but for the Dodgers, it's a different sell and marketplace. If I were American Express, I'd be quicker to pay him than the Dodgers. But, that's just me, I don't know crap about the sports business...I am just looking to make money from horses, LOL.
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I don't know, how much? $1 billion? For the Dodgers? I can see this guy generating massive endorsement revenue, for himself! But for the Dodgers? $1 billion? From what? Selling jerseys? Bats? Helmets? Season tickets? Is a corporate sponsor going to sign on for major money because of him? To have their name and product seen in the ballpark all season? My sports agent said for this athlete, himself, personally, the sky could be the limit, if he strikes now, moves fast, gets some real substance out in the marketplace (he said like the "Just do it" campaign or the "Bo knows" campaign), but for the Dodgers, it's a different sell and marketplace. If I were American Express, I'd be quicker to pay him than the Dodgers. But, that's just me, I don't know crap about the sports business...I am just looking to make money from horses, LOL.
I see your point. I was thinking if the Dodgers were involved with any TV contracts with Asia, kind of crossed my mind. Good luck with your horses.
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Hey asshole you midget fuck this has shit to do with harness racing if u had half a brain you'd know that they have a sports forum on here go post this crap over there pile of shit
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they needed to add an arm as Kershaw not the same pitcher
that said, they have huge revenue streams, they can afford it
I agree they need pitching so do the Yankees!
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Draft kings offered me max 25 bet on dodgers to win it all at increased odds from +550 to +1000...today is last day to get that boost.
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I see your point. I was thinking if the Dodgers were involved with any TV contracts with Asia, kind of crossed my mind. Good luck with your horses.
Thanks. That's true. I have no idea who "owns" the rights to broadcast the games, but if they start selling broadcast rights or however it works, somebody could be making a lot of money on that. It's either the team or MLB.
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Thanks. That's true. I have no idea who "owns" the rights to broadcast the games, but if they start selling broadcast rights or however it works, somebody could be making a lot of money on that. It's either the team or MLB.
I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the Dodgers negotiations in the front office.
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I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the Dodgers negotiations in the front office.
most of the money is deferred to 2034 hes only getitng 2 mill a yr
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most of the money is deferred to 2034 hes only getitng 2 mill a yr
I heard the same thing but I also heard there was a little controversy around that.
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1.) The winning team in a World Series picks up $35mm EXTRA dollars. The losing team picks up about $25mm
2.) The Dodgers have the highest attendance in MLB at 3.8mm approx. Their stadium could handle about 650,000 more. If they only increase average home attendance back to their 2019 level, they will pick up 81 x 2500 x $165 (which is 81 games, 2500 more fans/game at the average ticket price of $165.) That works out to $33mm dollars
3.) As Mike noted, the merchandise sales are HUGE Worldwide.. don't know the exact $$ involved.
4.) A top DH with his stats would command $30mm/year. If he can pitch for 5 or 6 of his 10 years at a high level, that would be worth another $20-25mm/year. Also, if he can both pitch and hit, he effectively frees up a roster spot that would be taken by another starter or offensive player.
5.) The deferrals bring the present value down of his contract to $57mm/year.
THIS MOVE HAS NOT RUINED PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, and will almost certainly turn out to be a good move for the Dodgers financially.
Smart post tmbz1 tmbz1
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So if a guy gets a,dodger jersey for 150 bucks...does mlb get a cut or dodgers? You forc9t tye money from parking and concession sales. Parents 35 get them n 2 kids 4 hotdogs....2 beers and 2 waters .how much ? Guessing 70 bucks..60?
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1.) The winning team in a World Series picks up $35mm EXTRA dollars. The losing team picks up about $25mm
2.) The Dodgers have the highest attendance in MLB at 3.8mm approx. Their stadium could handle about 650,000 more. If they only increase average home attendance back to their 2019 level, they will pick up 81 x 2500 x $165 (which is 81 games, 2500 more fans/game at the average ticket price of $165.) That works out to $33mm dollars
3.) As Mike noted, the merchandise sales are HUGE Worldwide.. don't know the exact $$ involved.
4.) A top DH with his stats would command $30mm/year. If he can pitch for 5 or 6 of his 10 years at a high level, that would be worth another $20-25mm/year. Also, if he can both pitch and hit, he effectively frees up a roster spot that would be taken by another starter or offensive player.
5.) The deferrals bring the present value down of his contract to $57mm/year.
THIS MOVE HAS NOT RUINED PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, and will almost certainly turn out to be a good move for the Dodgers financially.
GREAT POST!