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Title: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: MikeAnt on May 24, 2023, 08:48:17 PM
Mr. Gural has permanently barred Jen and Joe B because of the suspicions of that race last week. Gural might start to act against these criminals. I think fans and horseman are starting to get on edge and turning each other in. Hope it really happens.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: PIGLAND on May 24, 2023, 08:53:36 PM
is that breaking news?
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Post by: gogasgoboom on May 24, 2023, 08:59:35 PM
Scoop! ngc3
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: stanetelman on May 24, 2023, 09:56:40 PM
Doesn't say "permanent", still waiting for statement from Jeff and Jason.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: HarnessFan1981 on May 24, 2023, 10:13:21 PM
https://www.drf.com/news/meadowlands-wagering-investigation-clears-bongiorno-di-costanzo
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: Kirby's Ace on May 24, 2023, 11:37:30 PM
Well, that didn't last long!
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: London on May 25, 2023, 12:35:56 AM
Wonder what the payoff was..
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: Harness racer on May 25, 2023, 07:50:13 AM
Complete bullshit!  Screwed the public yet again.  Fuck the BigM and Jeffie.  That cocksucker talks so much shit about cleaning up racing and clears this asshole 20 minutes later! 
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: LUCPARK on May 25, 2023, 08:56:17 AM
Track owner is a disgrace and embarrassment

Alll this bullshit to get a twenty ATTA BOY JEFFREY

to find out 20 minutes later brother and sister did nothin wrong

I hope the Bon Jovi’s sue  the bigm and owner

For defamation
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: Hay 4 sail on May 25, 2023, 10:16:47 AM
How old is that fucktard? He gotta be pushing 90
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: London on May 25, 2023, 11:58:41 AM
If only the government can investigate as fast as gural
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: bond on May 25, 2023, 12:12:49 PM
Bongiorno Sr--best Pals with Gural-and has the gift of the gab. Man can sell sand to the Arabs--hes that good.Im sure he was on the phone in seconds to calm down his Buddy Geoff.
Joe stiffed his horse---anyone who knows racing-could see that. Joe knew his girlfriends horse was the one to beat--so he decided to give his horse an easy run and not upset the apple cart-fuck the gamblers--but score kudos with the girlfriend and cash..
Anyone who was best friends with Nick Surick-should be immediately investigated as they all moved in the same corrupt circles.
no one surprised that Bongiorno's--who were average at best--suddenly became harness gurus????-about the same time Surick and co were lighting up harness and tbreds-to steal as much money as they can?
They need investigating IMHO.

Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: talkstohisself on May 25, 2023, 12:21:38 PM
POWER OF THE P
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: London on May 25, 2023, 12:36:03 PM
Bongiorno Sr--best Pals with Gural-and has the gift of the gab. Man can sell sand to the Arabs--hes that good.Im sure he was on the phone in seconds to calm down his Buddy Geoff.
Joe stiffed his horse---anyone who knows racing-could see that. Joe knew his girlfriends horse was the one to beat--so he decided to give his horse an easy run and not upset the apple cart-fuck the gamblers--but score kudos with the girlfriend and cash..
Anyone who was best friends with Nick Surick-should be immediately investigated as they all moved in the same corrupt circles.
no one surprised that Bongiorno's--who were average at best--suddenly became harness gurus????-about the same time Surick and co were lighting up harness and tbreds-to steal as much money as they can?
They need investigating IMHO.
the betting public knew..cant fool them
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: TimTimTimbo on May 25, 2023, 12:36:27 PM
Track owner is a disgrace and embarrassment

Alll this bullshit to get a twenty ATTA BOY JEFFREY

to find out 20 minutes later brother and sister did nothin wrong

I hope the Bon Jovi’s sue  the bigm and owner

For defamation

After seeing that a 1/9 won tthe 1st leg, there is no way that was race fixing. I agree, what a load of bullshit
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: HornbyDuke on May 25, 2023, 07:05:53 PM
Mr Triple T, quite respectfully disagree. My gripe isnt with the betting. That i havent looked at numbers (though i wouldnt be surprised if family and friends had a few winning tickets). Frankly, i pounded two cold late doubles with the chalk. One was nicoles horse in second half of double. My logic was partially practical and partially a gambler's paranoia. Practical in the sense i couldnt play an odds on horse with anything close to chalk in the latter half and make the risk worth the bet.  Paranoid in the sense i thought chivalry might set the second half of the double up where it might be in jbs interest to see his girlfriend triumph.

My disagreement with you sir, is jbs drive looked laughable. Most would consider a bad drive when a conlict of interest is involved fixing. My gripe with dfr is their article is misleading. It suggests to the public that all this was on the up and up; when in my mind it may not have been.Now, if they had at least mentioned that some viewers had questions about the quality of jbs drive i wouldnt have taken issue.

Nonetheless, i wasnt disappointed with the outcome as i pocketed some shekels and learned long ago to either turn the page over or quit betting  when i observe wonky things in racing. And is far from the first time ive turned observed some wonkiness and turned the page over.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: blg1112 on May 25, 2023, 07:22:31 PM
How he is not suspended is mind blowing! Wasn’t it obvious to everyone that how he drives everything else?.. Then this one he sat MOTIONLESS the whole mile? C’mon..

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Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: Harness racer on May 26, 2023, 08:03:21 AM
BigM is corrupt also.  I guess they are family friends, so no penalty.  But don't insult the public by saying there was nothing wrong with that drive.  Horse was tons the best on paper and he never tried to get him involved.  Fuck Gural and  the BigM.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on May 26, 2023, 08:25:21 AM
I truly do hate to critize other drivers because, unless you've been out there in an actual race you have no idea of how many things can go wrong. But holy shit. Theres no way to sugar coat it. That was blatant. And he got away with it.

As is said on here frequently- the sport is dead laddies
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: Superfecta on May 26, 2023, 10:39:28 AM
I truly do hate to critize other drivers because, unless you've been out there in an actual race you have no idea of how many things can go wrong. But holy shit. Theres no way to sugar coat it. That was blatant. And he got away with it.

As is said on here frequently- the sport is dead laddies

It's certainly isn't dead for the criminals that continue to get away with easy money daily.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: stanetelman on May 26, 2023, 04:51:13 PM
I truly do hate to critize other drivers because, unless you've been out there in an actual race you have no idea of how many things can go wrong. But holy shit. Theres no way to sugar coat it. That was blatant. And he got away with it.

As is said on here frequently- the sport is dead laddies

It's why it's called gambling!  Horses and drivers are living things, sometimes they feel like trying and sometimes they don't.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: WillieGoldberg on May 26, 2023, 05:20:29 PM
I'm disappointed in Mr. Gural.  Horses that are expected to leave don't leave several times each race card.  And when a 1/9 starts the double, bettors spread, so it's not unusual for the double to come back shorter than the win price; it happens when 1/9s start Pick 3s as well.
Ms. Bongiorno is one of America's great trainers; a real horse whisperer.  Fortunately  hear she will be allowed to participate at the Big M.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: onabrake on May 26, 2023, 05:31:47 PM
I'm disappointed in Mr. Gural.  Horses that are expected to leave don't leave several times each race card.  And when a 1/9 starts the double, bettors spread, so it's not unusual for the double to come back shorter than the win price; it happens when 1/9s start Pick 3s as well.
Ms. Bongiorno is one of America's great trainers; a real horse whisperer.  Fortunately  hear she will be allowed to participate at the Big M.


yep, she's some horse whisperer, after brother Joe reminds her where the horses ears are located. A complete joke.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: wecandream on May 26, 2023, 06:54:33 PM
Bond,
His girlfriends horse? I thought he was married to Melissa?
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: onabrake on May 26, 2023, 08:03:14 PM
Bond,
His girlfriends horse? I thought he was married to Melissa?

Melissa was quickly yesterday's news. As per Melissa... he was one in a million and she could not wait to spend forever with him or two plus years, which ever comes first. This current one may last longer because they know it's fun watching Gural blow smoke and then crawl back in his hole.
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2023, 08:10:07 PM
Bigm
Has become u watchable

Whitehall the chaos every weekend

And  Jeffrey state policing

It’s become very tiring to watch
Title: Re: Bongiorno family no longer welcome at big m
Post by: Generation XYZ on May 27, 2023, 12:51:53 PM
The only thing worth watching at the Big M are the stakes races, and most of those are predictable.  The overnights are whatever the King of the fiefdom, perceives as integrity for the betting public, IE: his whale bettors.

I calls it likes I sees it!
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