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Title: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: getreal on March 31, 2023, 06:35:20 PM
The old regime at the Big M would be embarrassed. Race 1 tonight a complete joke of a race. Wake up !!!!! Trente Deo gets stupid money and jogs. looks like complete death on paper. last 4 sts beaten 83 plus lengths and draws off. Hope the new judge sitting at home is going to do something about this. Horse paid 19.80. Shouldve paid 119.80. Amateur races SUCK A DICK, but then again some may like the old dick suck. Lost a customer tonight Scottie and co. To Yonkers i go
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Mailbox Money on March 31, 2023, 06:45:23 PM
That was a pathetic happenstance for sure. Great way to reduce operating costs by reducing the number of patrons. The few that hammered this horse will be back,however hundreds have just had their suspicions confirmed are gone for good! The shady operators just pulled a hiest at the place that claims to have the most scrupulous anti-cheating safeguards in place! SMH
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: getreal on March 31, 2023, 06:47:14 PM
Couldnt agree more. Not a pimple on the ass of the old BigM. Yonkers cards are better with just as good of drivers. This amateur shit flat out sucks and Scott W and Jason blab about how great it is. Blind to the truth
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Brown jug on March 31, 2023, 07:40:41 PM
yikes, fellas, some of you are really not very god at this gambling/handicapping thing

1. stop betting these amatuer races and they will disappear
2. trent deo was a barn change, dont know the trainers but any barn change should be noted
3. he was picked as the winner in the platanium program the big m provides for free on their site
4. his qualifier in the slop was faster than most of these were racing, perhaps a tip that the horse was now in better form
5. had the best earning/start by far last year
6. had a 150.2 win at pcd last year
7. did i mention he was racing against shit
8. he had a good post position
9. he got a very favorable trip

to be clear i am not defending nor passing judgement on the big m and their policing practices etc
i am just saying if you are going to willing bet your hard earned cash on their races you should be a little smarter before doing it

Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: getreal on March 31, 2023, 10:53:10 PM
Dear Brown Stain,

Thanks for the patronizing. Heres some for you.
The horse looked like shit on the program. Got bet by someone that had inside dope information. they cashed.
Good night
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: SAW on April 01, 2023, 10:32:30 AM
Dear Brown Stain,

Thanks for the patronizing. Heres some for you.
The horse looked like shit on the program. Got bet by someone that had inside dope information. they cashed.
Good night
yikes, fellas, some of you are really not very god at this gambling/handicapping thing

1. stop betting these amatuer races and they will disappear
2. trent deo was a barn change, dont know the trainers but any barn change should be noted
3. he was picked as the winner in the platanium program the big m provides for free on their site
4. his qualifier in the slop was faster than most of these were racing, perhaps a tip that the horse was now in better form
5. had the best earning/start by far last year
6. had a 150.2 win at pcd last year
7. did i mention he was racing against shit
8. he had a good post position
9. he got a very favorable trip

to be clear i am not defending nor passing judgement on the big m and their policing practices etc
i am just saying if you are going to willing bet your hard earned cash on their races you should be a little smarter before doing it

Very good points, numbers 2 thru 8 were in the program.......... so other than recent form & time off..... not everything looked like sh*t
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Yonkers1A on April 01, 2023, 11:00:56 AM
yikes, fellas, some of you are really not very god at this gambling/handicapping thing

1. stop betting these amatuer races and they will disappear
2. trent deo was a barn change, dont know the trainers but any barn change should be noted
3. he was picked as the winner in the platanium program the big m provides for free on their site
4. his qualifier in the slop was faster than most of these were racing, perhaps a tip that the horse was now in better form
5. had the best earning/start by far last year
6. had a 150.2 win at pcd last year
7. did i mention he was racing against shit
8. he had a good post position
9. he got a very favorable trip

to be clear i am not defending nor passing judgement on the big m and their policing practices etc
i am just saying if you are going to willing bet your hard earned cash on their races you should be a little smarter before doing it

Brown Jug knows racing

Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: jupiter on April 01, 2023, 11:44:20 AM
The cards are nowhere near the old Meds. It's a joke to even try and compare the product. Lost all the old series,  Fri or Sat races are a B product now, at best. No bullshit amatuer crap every weekend. Jeff saved the place, but he killed the racing.
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Unclejerry on April 01, 2023, 11:53:07 AM
Yes Yonkers has the small track, but the Purse's, Drivers, and the Horse's are much better. Monday and Friday cards at Yonkers are must plays. Little M is a B track, try Hoosier, Miami Valley and Scioto for good Harness racing.
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Harness racer on April 01, 2023, 12:46:59 PM
The cards are nowhere near the old Meds. It's a joke to even try and compare the product. Lost all the old series,  Fri or Sat races are a B product now, at best. No bullshit amatuer crap every weekend. Jeff saved the place, but he killed the racing.

Old M1 had 100k claimers.  This product is complete garbage!
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: kooter for hipin on April 01, 2023, 12:50:53 PM
yikes, fellas, some of you are really not very god at this gambling/handicapping thing

1. stop betting these amatuer races and they will disappear
2. trent deo was a barn change, dont know the trainers but any barn change should be noted
3. he was picked as the winner in the platanium program the big m provides for free on their site
4. his qualifier in the slop was faster than most of these were racing, perhaps a tip that the horse was now in better form
5. had the best earning/start by far last year
6. had a 150.2 win at pcd last year
7. did i mention he was racing against shit
8. he had a good post position
9. he got a very favorable trip

to be clear i am not defending nor passing judgement on the big m and their policing practices etc
i am just saying if you are going to willing bet your hard earned cash on their races you should be a little smarter before doing it

That's just about it Brown Jug.  I'm 78, been around for all of it.  Fixing the exactas like the Moonstone Bay affair, Herve going first up constantly and winning six a night, then came the tri and here's $500 to stay out, and then the newer exotics. Hard to keep up with all the shit, However there are people on this site who know me and know I could lite it up at Roosevelt and Yonkers with my own horses and sometimes others, and I had Trente Deo last night. If you watched the board and the betting patterns, you may have cashed also. At any rate as I said earlier, 70% on this site are degenerate gamblers, 20% are horny alcoholics, and perhaps 10% like BJ know their shit. ;D
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Brown jug on April 01, 2023, 01:15:46 PM
thank you guys
its nice to see there are still some like minded individuals on the site
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: PIGLAND on April 01, 2023, 01:56:30 PM
i think guys are cheat in the amuters ,real bad
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on April 01, 2023, 04:23:20 PM
The winning driver dakota Jackson gave up a hole, didn't pull. Violation.

Was he given an official warning?
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: getreal on April 01, 2023, 05:09:13 PM
Amateur Racing sucks, cant convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: jupiter on April 01, 2023, 05:28:22 PM
Should be non betting, after the regular card.  73cv.2
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Harness racer on April 01, 2023, 06:04:01 PM
Should be non betting, after the regular card.  73cv.2

 tmbz1
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: toothman on April 01, 2023, 07:10:27 PM
The cards are nowhere near the old Meds. It's a joke to even try and compare the product. Lost all the old series,  Fri or Sat races are a B product now, at best. No bullshit amatuer crap every weekend. Jeff saved the place, but he killed the racing.

Well put. How did that happen for the glorious Big M to devolve into this?
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: kooter for hipin on April 01, 2023, 08:56:50 PM
Well put. How did that happen for the glorious Big M to devolve into this?

It's not the Big M, it's harness racing!    73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: HornbyDuke on April 01, 2023, 09:17:51 PM
I used the horse in p5s but i went four deep in that race. My logic was similar to jugs - my recollection is earnings were close to 40 k, the horse had been off a while but the qualifuer for this sort was not bad. I didnt use the horse on top in exsctas because the driver sucks; as do these races.

I went under in my p5 like a lot of bettors because i singled the heavy odds on horse in the 3rd which appeared to me the connections werent concerned with trying to win with.

Big M is hasnt reached the bottom of its dive to the abyss; every yr it sinks more and mire. This from a long time big m fan and supporter.
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Mailbox Money on April 01, 2023, 10:55:28 PM
Having the amateurs brings out alot of the participants familys that bet and flood the foodstands . If they have a good time,they go to work Monday and blab to their co-workers all day about it.
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: kooter for hipin on April 01, 2023, 11:11:54 PM

 One night at Yonkers, many years, there were two guys standing next to me when one asked the other if he could borrow a saw-buck till next week. The guy replied as to why he needed it as he had hit $250. exacta the previous night. His reply was, "shit, my wife blew it on the rent. I wish all the dart throwers the best.   73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Superfecta on April 03, 2023, 01:09:51 AM
Having the amateurs brings out alot of the participants familys that bet and flood the foodstands . If they have a good time,they go to work Monday and blab to their co-workers all day about it.

Did you fall and hit your head ?
Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: Locked in with pace on April 03, 2023, 03:09:21 AM
So many amateur races are run FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY. If they could fill a card with quality races ( not the trackmaster 74 and below horses for these are merely Freehold North, or the $12,500 claiming races filled with $7500 claimers,  you wouldn't see so any of these races. Ok maybe one a week

The reason they have so many is that they NEED THEM to make a 14-race card. Without the 14 races, they wouldn't do the $3 M handles.  If they went with 10 or 11 races, they slip well below their $3M magic number.



Title: Re: Meadowlands wake up
Post by: stanetelman on April 03, 2023, 08:10:38 AM
So many amateur races are run FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY. If they could fill a card with quality races ( not the trackmaster 74 and below horses for these are merely Freehold North, or the $12,500 claiming races filled with $7500 claimers,  you wouldn't see so any of these races. Ok maybe one a week

The reason they have so many is that they NEED THEM to make a 14-race card. Without the 14 races, they wouldn't do the $3 M handles.  If they went with 10 or 11 races, they slip well below their $3M magic number.

You are correct sir!  tmbz1 tmbz1
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