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Title: The Case for CASE!
Post by: wizardofoz on March 17, 2023, 12:08:47 AM
https://v.fastcdn.co/u/1361f4ff/63764947-0-harness-newsletter-3.pdf         "That there was some rust for Case to wash off in 2021 was understandable and it was hardly a shock that he led all drivers in Maine in terms of wins in 2022. The 166 victories earned him the Driver of the Year award from the Maine Harness Horsemen’s Association."
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: hot2trot on March 17, 2023, 12:12:34 AM
case is the best
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Bernie Madoff on March 17, 2023, 01:16:23 AM
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Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Wawajones on March 17, 2023, 02:01:21 AM
Maybe the greatest driver all time!
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Yonkers1A on March 17, 2023, 07:52:30 AM
Maybe the greatest driver all time!

Undoubtedly
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: panhunter on March 17, 2023, 08:51:43 AM
I saw Casey when he was still driving at Northfield. Imagine what his numbers would be if not for his unfortunate troubles.
It's time to forgive and move on, he paid his dues, he should be able to get a license anywhere. Remember "Who among use will throw the first stone".
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Open bridle on March 17, 2023, 09:06:38 AM
I watch Case in the late 90's at Northfield. He could win with any type of horse good or bad. He was also penalize a lot for kicking horses to make them go. But for sure one of the best I've ever seen when he was sober.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Emperor Dapple on March 17, 2023, 09:14:49 AM
Remember "Who among use will throw the first stone".

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Forget stones.. Maybe some knives
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: The Exporter on March 17, 2023, 09:20:41 AM
Case's rejection by every state commission has little to do with his past and more to due with his current lifestyle. Case was addicted to drugs and alcohol. Every commision demanded a plan and path for his sobriety and Case would not cooperate.
 Hopefully he has his demons in check but, only he knows for sure.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: ferdinand the bull on March 17, 2023, 09:46:02 AM
Case's rejection by every state commission has little to do with his past and more to due with his current lifestyle. Case was addicted to drugs and alcohol. Every commision demanded a plan and path for his sobriety and Case would not cooperate.
 Hopefully he has his demons in check but, only he knows for sure.
Took chances and made moves other drives wouldn't,  won a lot if races. Would he have drove as well or as brave if not coked up, same goes for drivers today. There's skill and ability to react as a race unfolds and then there's driving with a nose red like Rudolph or skin like a teenager with acne. Who's real talent and who's riding the snow drift?
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: The Exporter on March 17, 2023, 10:33:08 AM
I always had the same thoughts. But Case was a fenom from the get. The poor guy was self medicating his pain and demons for a long time. But, like every other human ATM, Case was coddled and protected by the very same people who turned their back on him. He was a great guy while he was making you rich or saving your dying race program. Managers went so far as to pay his fines to keep the Case laying a golden egg.
 Yonkers made so many excuses for the guy until the risk of covering for him got to greater than the rewards. Same thing at Northfield.
 Not that Case was not fully responsible for himself. Hell, here is a guy making a couple hundred a year and could not raise bail money.
 Good luck to one of harness racings greatest drivers ever. May you find some peace and happiness.   
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: ferdinand the bull on March 17, 2023, 10:59:53 AM
I always had the same thoughts. But Case was a fenom from the get. The poor guy was self medicating his pain and demons for a long time. But, like every other human ATM, Case was coddled and protected by the very same people who turned their back on him. He was a great guy while he was making you rich or saving your dying race program. Managers went so far as to pay his fines to keep the Case laying a golden egg.
 Yonkers made so many excuses for the guy until the risk of covering for him got to greater than the rewards. Same thing at Northfield.
 Not that Case was not fully responsible for himself. Hell, here is a guy making a couple hundred a year and could not raise bail money.
 Good luck to one of harness racings greatest drivers ever. May you find some peace and happiness.
Well said,  the lifestyle contributes as well, night work , night life, sleeping in , money flowing in easily with relatively little expenses
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: rock old school on March 17, 2023, 03:17:58 PM
I remember that in 1998 it was unreal 2993 starts --1077 wins and that was basically 99% at one track.
No driving to other tracks racing in 20 races a day 7 days a week just 5 days a week maybe 11-12 races a night that was it amazing just in itself.
He made horses that couldn't lift a hoof or go forward win it didn't matter what hole they had one of the best..
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Superfecta on March 17, 2023, 03:56:20 PM
The most amazing statistic is Walter winning at about 29% and taking a lot of Andrew's $1000 hand outs to stiff and support his drug habit.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: bond on March 17, 2023, 05:03:41 PM
I always had the same thoughts. But Case was a fenom from the get. The poor guy was self medicating his pain and demons for a long time. But, like every other human ATM, Case was coddled and protected by the very same people who turned their back on him. He was a great guy while he was making you rich or saving your dying race program. Managers went so far as to pay his fines to keep the Case laying a golden egg.
 Yonkers made so many excuses for the guy until the risk of covering for him got to greater than the rewards. Same thing at Northfield.
 Not that Case was not fully responsible for himself. Hell, here is a guy making a couple hundred a year and could not raise bail money.
 Good luck to one of harness racings greatest drivers ever. May you find some peace and happiness.
Perfectly sums it up.
When Case first used the bent shaft-I was at Yonkers with my Dad-I was I think about 8YO-but I loved Harness Racing and Case drove a horse for my dads friend. Well it left out of the wings like a Cheetah(like the bike) and Case was lying horizontal in the bike. The horse jiggy jogged and took about 3 seconds off its last race time. Case I believe was responsible for the banning of that bike--because no-one could come close to beating Case-with his ability to get a horse to leave and that bike-which lifted up the front end especially with Case lying horizontal.
Case was and always will be the best driver at Yonkers--ever.
I hope also he looks after himself and can return to a better life.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: wizardofoz on March 17, 2023, 07:47:51 PM
Case at his best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMu_jShBnE
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: ferdinand the bull on July 27, 2023, 02:47:55 PM
Case at his best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMu_jShBnE
Case was well known for substance abuse. Do coked up drivers take more risks in tight quarters and win more races?
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 02:57:49 PM
Let's remember this about Case. Expert medical testimony was given that he missed 2 vital organs and the right lung by less than 2 centimeters which most likely would have resulted in his wife's death. That is sheer luck and chance when you plunge a 7inch steak knife into a woman's back. If not for this, he would still be in prison. For murder.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 03:08:03 PM
Walter Case has 35 wins this year in Maine. It's almost August. He wins 1.5 races per week.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: HarnessFan1981 on July 27, 2023, 03:16:18 PM
according to USTA and my math

Walter Case Jr (Bangor and Cumberland)
281 starts
35 wins
35 seconds
37 thirds

UDRS .236
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: ferdinand the bull on July 27, 2023, 03:38:45 PM
according to USTA and my math

Walter Case Jr (Bangor and Cumberland)
281 starts
35 wins
35 seconds
37 thirds

UDRS .236
Sure he's older but Case in his higher days has a UDRS. 536
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 03:55:49 PM
Case at his best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMu_jShBnE
whats the point of this video? He is driving Anniecrombie. An all time great race mare   Every driver in that race would have won with her. In fact, most drivers who ever sat a bike would have won in that field with her.  So how is this Walter at his best?
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 04:16:33 PM
Walter Case 2003 - 178 days of suspensions  Incredible!   Lets remember when he stabbed his estranged wife in the back, she had returned to the house to give him money for her share of training fees on horses they held together. He beat and kicked her all over the house till she ran out into the street screaming and he stabbed her in the back nearly killing her.

I felt sympathy for Walter twice. Once when his brother hung himself and the other when his young son, a new dad, died tragically in accident. Everything else Walter suffered he brought upon himself. 

Could he make horses go? HELL YEAH! but so what?
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: harnessplop on July 27, 2023, 04:21:01 PM
Where is his ex wife today. Did she recover ? What,was the point of this thread ? He is never going to race in New york or anywhere else but Maine.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 04:26:22 PM
Where is his ex wife today. Did she recover ? What,was the point of this thread ? He is never going to race in New york or anywhere else but Maine.
She recovered and I hare saying this because it is my gut feeling and I dont know this for a fact. But if you go online and look at the messages of symparhy concerning the death of his son, it appears as if Walter is cut off from his family and they havent forgiven him. He is barely acknowledged in  their condolences. There are some very touching photos of Walter and his boys though
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: tumbleweed on July 27, 2023, 06:05:37 PM
She recovered and I hare saying this because it is my gut feeling and I dont know this for a fact. But if you go online and look at the messages of symparhy concerning the death of his son, it appears as if Walter is cut off from his family and they havent forgiven him. He is barely acknowledged in  their condolences. There are some very touching photos of Walter and his boys though
Not sure your gut is right my friend. A few years ago in Florida Walter was living with his sister and brother in law and speaking to his mom on a daily basis.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 06:11:45 PM
Go look at the tributes. You'll get a different impression at least at the time of his death. That was my only point. I raced with Walter for years NY metro circuit and couldn't care less about him. To  me, as a man, once you kick and punch and much less stab a woman, you dont exist as far as I am concerned. Who cares if he was living with Kelly and Dave. What does that prove?
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 06:13:13 PM
Also, do you really think i was referring to his ancient Mom? ngc3
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 06:22:58 PM
Not sure your gut is right my friend. A few years ago in Florida Walter was living with his sister and brother in law and speaking to his mom on a daily basis.
What about Luanne? Have they split?
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: tumbleweed on July 27, 2023, 06:29:39 PM
What about Luanne? Have they split?
Not looking for a fight with you my friend. It was Totally wrong what Walter did in his past. No excuse for it. People change as they grow older, some for better and some for worse. I also raced with Walter for years and ctually got to know him AFTER all the crap he pulled. Some people are sorry for the past. I myself feel he is one of them although he cant change what has happened and can just move forward.All that being said he was still one of the sports best drivers.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 06:35:46 PM
Of course, no fight buddy. look I checked up winners for him  I checked up winners against him. Last i talked to him was over 10 years ago at a NY training center - I wont say which one for personal reasons - he was a different person. As far as driving a horse. I'd be a fool if I didnt say he was an all time great. I swear when he swung into the seat and grabbed a hold of the lines, the look in the horses eyes told you they knew someone who meant business was back there. he made them fly. The kicking and stifle blasts and lacerations notwithstanding. we're good!
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: oldjohn123 on July 27, 2023, 10:54:12 PM
He is good with young drivers,He had a good chat with Winter Stalborn  the fairs last year telling him what a good job he was doing and to keep it up.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 10:55:28 PM
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Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: SeattleSlew on July 28, 2023, 03:19:21 AM
What about Luanne? Have they split?

Several years ago.

Very sad story.  He definitely was one of the top 5 drivers I ever had on my horses in terms of skill and success, and no doubt he really did "talk" to them.  This was Meadowlands mid 80's, and only trotters, no pacers. 
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: harnessplop on July 28, 2023, 09:55:21 AM
He's a nothing now
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: dougie on July 28, 2023, 11:30:11 AM
I live in maine and have chatted with Walter many times. He seems to be happy and at peace with his life back here in Maine. I don't think he's the same kind of driver he was in his "heyday" but he gets a win or two every once in awhile.
Title: Re: The Case for CASE!
Post by: Gaagoots on July 28, 2023, 04:12:45 PM
What about Luanne? Have they split?
I hope so for Walters sake.
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