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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on January 27, 2023, 02:52:20 PM

Title: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: LUCPARK on January 27, 2023, 02:52:20 PM
Let’s move on from the 60s snd 70s

Nobody wants to see that kinda racing any longer

Winning all based on the draws

It’s boring
And the younger generation. Apparently aren’t interested
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Kirby's Ace on January 27, 2023, 03:00:57 PM
I do agree on this one.

1/2 mile line up racing is like watch grass grow. Younger crowd want some type of excitement. They rather bet sports then a bunch of people slashing away on poor animals for a quarter mile.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Parked on January 27, 2023, 03:17:15 PM
Its a wonder it didn’t kill racing long before.  Only game in town in the 60s
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Brown jug on January 27, 2023, 06:31:33 PM
agreed
 but in most cases that would mean casinos spending money to build new tracks, not happening
keeping half mile tracks is destroying racing which is what they want
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: pugdog1 on January 27, 2023, 08:22:16 PM
Agree Luc. Our horses we raced at Maywood in the  90s we would tell DK race for a check from 6-7-8 holes. Then next race draw inside, let’s go
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: MikeAnt on January 28, 2023, 12:54:57 AM
Won’t ever eliminate 1/2 mile racetracks. The Jews love those $3 exacta line-ups.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Swandre on January 28, 2023, 01:15:31 AM
lots of action at Northfield
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: jupiter on January 28, 2023, 09:31:44 AM
Get rid of 1/2 mi tracks, what are they going to replaced by, more parking lots for casinos. Theyŕe not going to build new racetracks to replace the old ones, let's see if the new Northville gets built.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Open bridle on January 28, 2023, 09:34:34 AM
I agree about the draw, Have drawn the 8 hole at Northfield and Delaware county fair on jug day and almost impossible to win unless you have a horse like niatross. But they will never get rid of Delaware with it's long tradition.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: bond on January 28, 2023, 09:53:52 AM
Let’s move on from the 60s snd 70s

Nobody wants to see that kinda racing any longer

Winning all based on the draws

It’s boring
And the younger generation. Apparently aren’t interested

Agreed if they keep the current formula--BUT ---half mile tracks are fine-action is closer and can be exciting--HOWEVER -Since the introduction of newer equipment and drivers becoming more aggressive--its led to the inside having way too much of an advantage.
SOLUTION-1) stagger the gate---kudos to Yonkers its trying--BUT its not enough.
                 2) Start the race 50M earlier--like they did in Maywood-and like they do today at Pocono.Why waste over half of the stretch??
                 3) At least put on a few more 1 1/2 or 1 1/4 mile races like they do overseas and for the Yonkers TROT
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: The Exporter on January 28, 2023, 11:09:04 AM
Good suggestions. May I add, write the conditions to include a handicap to the highest earners. The highest earners for the class are assigned the outside posts. Or somthing that suggests a handicap to the higher earners as it is often indicative to most recent form.
 Very similar to how the thoroughbreds write their overnights using weight assignments.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Superfecta on January 28, 2023, 11:15:55 AM
Good suggestions. May I add, write the conditions to include a handicap to the highest earners. The highest earners for the class are assigned the outside posts. Or somthing that suggests a handicap to the higher earners as it is often indicative to most recent form.
 Very similar to how the thoroughbreds write their overnights using weight assignments.

The claiming handicaps already do that and it's very fair.
Didn't they already try a mile and a 1/16th or mile and an 1/8th ? It did give additional straight away to blast before you hit the turn. I thought that was a great idea at the time.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Open bridle on January 28, 2023, 11:59:50 AM
I know they want to have full fields ,but when I drew the 8 one was a 9 horse field and the other was a 10 horse field. The 10 horse field at Delaware went for 120K and I might as well have left the horse in the barn.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Parked on January 28, 2023, 02:14:26 PM
Agreed if they keep the current formula--BUT ---half mile tracks are fine-action is closer and can be exciting--HOWEVER -Since the introduction of newer equipment and drivers becoming more aggressive--its led to the inside having way too much of an advantage.
SOLUTION-1) stagger the gate---kudos to Yonkers its trying--BUT its not enough.
                 2) Start the race 50M earlier--like they did in Maywood-and like they do today at Pocono.Why waste over half of the stretch??
                 3) At least put on a few more 1 1/2 or 1 1/4 mile races like they do overseas and for the Yonkers TROT

# 4.  Stop the drivers from leaning back in a straight line. Horse in the 4 hole has to go an extra length or more.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Yonkers1A on January 28, 2023, 05:08:49 PM
Eliminate all buggy racing
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: LUCPARK on January 28, 2023, 08:28:15 PM
Yonkers is like watching paint dry

Yes  jug week is great

After that u get Northfield and Yonkers

Sleep  fests tmbz1
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Open bridle on January 29, 2023, 05:35:23 AM
Yonkers is like watching paint dry

Yes  jug week is great

After that u get Northfield and Yonkers

Sleep  fests tmbz1
   tmbz1
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: Hambletonian46 on January 29, 2023, 06:26:54 PM
I thought the mile and a sixteenth races at Yonkers were a great idea but  if memory serves the horsemen seemed to not like them. Anything to make post posiiton less relevant would be a good idea.

Have to say the harness racing overseas is a lot more interesting to watch....although I can only imagine what would happen if we tried a circle start here lol.
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: panhunter on January 30, 2023, 08:01:33 AM
Use slanted starting gate
Fine for opening holes(nobody gets parked anymore)
Give purse incentive to outside draws
Title: Re: ELIMINATE HALF MILE RACE TRACKS
Post by: panhunter on January 30, 2023, 08:07:13 AM
Watch Northfield, they start moving at the quarter pole. These guys really compete!
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