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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 05:09:06 PM

Title: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 05:09:06 PM
I'd like to know why trainers who win races are always deemed a "cheater" but a driver who wins alot of races is because of talent???
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: dinkadoo on January 26, 2023, 05:14:26 PM
Hot Driver is driving for the hot 'cheat' trainer
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: MCR on January 26, 2023, 05:43:32 PM
Hot Driver is driving for the hot 'cheat' trainer
Fair enough
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: SDST2009 on January 26, 2023, 07:24:59 PM
Hot Driver is driving for the hot 'cheat' trainer

Right. And presumably the driver isn't the one prepping the horse for the race..but they aren't stupid. They certainly know what's going on.
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: Harness racer on January 27, 2023, 05:59:45 AM
Brennan was a superstar driving for Pena. 
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: Harness racer on January 27, 2023, 06:13:04 AM
And not all hot trainers are cheats.  Some have good runs for whatever reason.  Racing luck, down in classe, good draws, etc...  But you are more than a hot trainer if you put up ridiculous numbers for extended periods.
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: Jctoronto on January 27, 2023, 10:27:11 AM
I asked about Freehold Andy for Nick few days ago..
Never a horseplop response.

sensitive stuff im guessing.
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: remington on January 27, 2023, 02:23:46 PM
Harness Racer you are right on.
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: Harness racer on January 27, 2023, 02:38:03 PM
I asked about Freehold Andy for Nick few days ago..
Never a horseplop response.

sensitive stuff im guessing.

I agree I always thought it was odd Andy would even show up at Freehold.  But when you are going to win half the races it makes sense.  I'm sure no driver has ever been questioned about that type of thing.  Most were big favs, why wouldn't he fire them to the lead?
Title: Re: Why is a hot trainer a cheat but hot driver is just plain good
Post by: MCR on January 27, 2023, 02:56:57 PM
I agree I always thought it was odd Andy would even show up at Freehold.  But when you are going to win half the races it makes sense.  I'm sure no driver has ever been questioned about that type of thing.  Most were big favs, why wouldn't he fire them to the lead?
when they are odds on race after race they are obviously getting sent down the road.  Nick would race two horses a race against nobody of course he was going to dominate.   has anyone noticed last couple years since Surick has been gone Andy doesnt drive much anywhere anymore
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