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https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/prosecutors-request-reduced-prison-sentence-of-less-than-six-years-for-former-harness-trainer-surick/
by Natalie Voss|01.13.2023|1:55pm
Prosecutors Request Reduced Prison Sentence Of Less Than Six Years For Former Harness Trainer Surick
Former harness trainer and Thoroughbred owner Nick Surick could face as much as six years in federal prison for his role uncovered in the federal government's probe into doping of racehorses that resulted in more than two dozen indictments in March 2020. Prosecutors have asked for a reduced sentence of less than the 72 months recommended in a presentence investigation report despite the government and defense attorneys acknowledging Surick provided inaccurate information to the prosecution.
Surick is scheduled to be sentenced Jan. 19 at 2 p.m. ET after entering a guilty plea to three charges – one count of conspiracy to violate drug adulterating and misbranding laws in aid of former trainer Jorge Navarro, one count of the same in his own string, and one count of obstruction of justice. The U.S. government submitted its pre-sentencing report to U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil this week, while Surick's attorneys filed theirs in December.
According to both reports, Surick was one of the first in the group of more than two dozen defendants to pursue a cooperation agreement with prosecutors in October 2020. He agreed to provide information to investigators on fellow defendants and it seems the government had hoped they could call him as a witness at trial. His name was absent from a superseding indictment filed in the case in November 2020.
Prosecutors say Surick met with investigators six times in the months between June and November 2020 in what are called “proffer sessions,” submitting to voluntary questioning about the role of himself and others. Surick's attorneys say he “provided extensive information about numerous indicted and unindicted co-conspirators” while prosecutors point out that the information “did not lead to the introduction of charges against any additional defendants, or any additional charges against existing defendants, nor did his testimony yield any additional investigative avenues.”
Surick is accused of supplying Navarro with “red acid,” the common name for an injectable painkiller, as well as a shockwave machine. (Read more about shockwave here.) Prosecutors say he also doped the horses under his own care.
One of the incidents Surick was questioned about was the case of his Standardbred trainee, Northern Virgin. Intercepted communications between Surick and other co-defendants reveal that he panicked after New Jersey investigators showed up at his barn to take an out-of-competition sample from Northern Virgin, who had been given EPO that Surick got from Navarro. Surick successfully hid Northern Virgin from state investigators, first claiming the horse wasn't on track property while concealing him in another barn, and eventually moving the horse to a training center in Ohio.
Surick told the government that it was fellow co-defendant and veterinarian Dr. Rebecca Linke who gave Northern Virgin the EPO, but it was later discovered that this was incorrect. Linke apparently produced records proving she could not have been present at Surick's barn on the day northern Virgin received the EPO.
In last week's filing, prosecutors said they could not be sure whether Surick's inaccuracy on this point was a matter of mistaken memory (as his attorney claims) or willful lying.
“Because it is possible that the defendant did not knowingly lie to the Government regarding this event, and because of the unique circumstances of this case, the government has not concluded that the defendant deliberately falsified the details of this event,” read the prosecutors' report.
Surick's inaccuracy about Linke's involvement made him unusable as a witness according to prosecutors, since the inconsistency in his story of a pivotal doping event would doubtlessly be an opportunity for opposing counsel to discredit him. For his part, Surick's attorney said his client mostly remembered his panic and anxiety over the fear that he was about to incur a positive out-of-competition test, while the details of who was present for the drug administration escaped him.
The pre-sentence investigation report (PSR), filed by the U.S. Probation office, recommended 72 months in prison for Surick, but prosecutors asked Vyskocil to consider a lesser sentence.
“The government respectfully submits that a serious sentence to some term of imprisonment, albeit one below that recommended by Probation in the PSR, is sufficient, but not greater than necessary, to serve the legitimate purposes of sentencing,” U.S. attorney Damian Williams wrote.
Prosecutors acknowledged they could have used a federal code allowing them to request a longer sentence since Surick's proffers turned out to have an accuracy issue, but have chosen not to. Federal codes could have allowed them to request as much as 30 years in jail for all three charges.
Surick's attorneys requested he be given 12 months' supervised release.
Neither pre-sentencing report explained a much-quoted statement made from Surick to co-defendant Thoroughbred trainer Michael Tannuzzo in intercepted conversation regarding Navarro:
“You know how many f—ing horses he (Navarro) f—ing killed and broke down that I made disappear,” Surick told Tannuzzo. “You know how much trouble he could get in … if they found out … the six horses we killed?”
Sentencing will take place at U.S. District Court's Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse, 500 Pearl Street, New York, N.Y.
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is it possible the light sentence was paid for?
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Next Thursday
I say 24 months
Must serve 12 at a resort
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he lied about events
he gave investigators the run around when they inspected his farm
he proved to be useless to the prosecutors
why the prosecutors would ask for less jail time is unclear to me
anything less than 36 months of real jail time would be a joke
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THE REDACTED VERSION IS VERY INTERESTING AS MANY NAMES WERE INCLUDED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INDICTED AS PER PROSECUTORS. THE DISCREPENCY IN SENTENCE COULD LEAD TO AN APPEAL AND I BELEIVE THE JUDGE WOULD PERMIT THE APPEAL WITHIN 10 DAYS. PROBATION RECOMMENDED 72 MONTHS. PROSECUTORS ARE TRYING TO AVOID AN APPEAL DUE TO DISCREPENCY IN THE SENTENCES IF DEFENDANT WAS SENTENCED TO 30 YARS AS PER GUIDELINES.
NOT SURE WHO MADE THE STATEMENT THAT THIS DEFENDANT WOULD SPEND 12 MONTHS IN A "RESORT!" WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOU ARE VERY INCORRECT AS THERE ARE NO RESORTS IN THE FEDERAL PRISION SYSTEM. ZERO. UNLESS YOU HAVE SEEN THESE CAMPS IN PERSON AND SLEPT ONE NIGHT THERE---PLEASE NEVER CALL THESE "RESORTS" AS THEY ARE NOT. MANY SERIOUS FELONS HAVE WORKED THEIR WAY DOWN TO A CAMP OVER 15 OR 20 YEARS IN THE PEN. TRULY, THERE IS NO LONGER ANY PLACE CALLED "CLUB FED!'
PRISON IS PRISON FOLKS AND TRUTHFULLY THIS WILL TRULY BE A TRUE TEST OF MENTAL AND PHYSICAL SURVIVAL WHETHER IT IS 1 YEAR OR 72 MONTHS. EITHER WAY---YOUR LIFE ENDS FOR YEARS AND THEN THE REBUILDING OF YOUR LIFE IF IT CAN BE REBUILT.
THIS IS A VERY FAIR AND EDUCATED JUDGE. THE DEFENDANT IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THIS JUDGE.
THE JUDGE HAS THE FINAL SAY IN THIS----GUESTS MAY SPEAK UP AT SENTENCING. IT DEPENDS A LOT IF ANYONE DOES SHOW UP.
MY EXPERIENCE WILL CONFIRM THAT THE JUDGE WILL TRULY READ THE PSR AND BE CLOSE TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PROBATION PSR REPORT.
THEREFORE, IT IS LIKELY THAT THE SENTENCE WILL BE 48 TO 72 MONTHS AND WITH TODAYS FORST STEP ACT WHICH CREDITS THE PRISONER 15 DAYS OF GOOD TIME CREDIT FOR EVERY 30 DAYS SERVED AS LONG AS THERE IS NO VIOLATION WHILE INCARCERATED---THE ACCUSSED COULD SERVE 50% OF THE SENTENCE AND THEN BE RELEASED TO HOME CONFINEMENT. SO GUESS A 48 TO 72 MONTH SENTENCE----HE WOULD SERVE 24 TO 36 MONTHS OR 50% AND THEN HAVE ONE YEAR OF SUPERVISED RELEASE.
PLEASE FOLKS---THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "RESORT" IN PRISON. NONE. YOU ARE MISINFORMED IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT---IT IS DEFINITELY BETTER THAT HIGH SECURITY OR HIGHER LEVELS OF INCARCERATION ----BUT, THESE FOLKS ARE SUFFERING LIKE YOU WOULD NEVER BELIEVE!!!!
THIS IS NOT TV!!!!! THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO REAL PRISON WITH REAL CRIMINALS THAT HAVE DONE UNIMAGINABLE THINGS TO GET THERE!!!!
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Nicky Shower Shoes must have given the Feds something that satisfied his burden of cooperation. I understand his credibility as a witness was compromised when he lied to agents. But, they must have got cooperation outside of those cases. Either way, Mrs. Surick's little boy will soon need to become a man. Let a wack job inmate get wind of how he killed horses, he might get a ride on the baloney pony. Yea, there will plenty of water sports at the resort, Club Fed.
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The camp counselor is shoveling shit again.
A View from White Collar Prison
After dropping below ten years remaining on his sentence, former Wall Street lawyer Matthew Kluger was transferred to the FCI Morgantown Camp in Morgantown, West Virginia.
“Here, no one is big and tough,” Kluger said. Calling the Satellite Prison Camp “Camp Cupcake,” he explained, “These are people who have no interest in losing their ability to be in a place that looks this nice and has no fence.”
In contemplating the level of violence at this minimum security prison, he explained that he had seen a few fights but that they were “more like middle school fights” with a few lazy swings and very little blood.
Kluger also made an interesting observation about the white-collar prison staff. He felt the staff in his former low-security federal prison were individuals who had taken their shot at the FBI or other government agencies but failed when they didn’t make the cut.
However, the staff was nearly all from the local area in the camp. The camp jobs were better when compared to other choices, so the prison staff had a very different attitude.
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The camp counselor is shoveling shit again.
A View from White Collar Prison
After dropping below ten years remaining on his sentence, former Wall Street lawyer Matthew Kluger was transferred to the FCI Morgantown Camp in Morgantown, West Virginia.
“Here, no one is big and tough,” Kluger said. Calling the Satellite Prison Camp “Camp Cupcake,” he explained, “These are people who have no interest in losing their ability to be in a place that looks this nice and has no fence.”
In contemplating the level of violence at this minimum security prison, he explained that he had seen a few fights but that they were “more like middle school fights” with a few lazy swings and very little blood.
Kluger also made an interesting observation about the white-collar prison staff. He felt the staff in his former low-security federal prison were individuals who had taken their shot at the FBI or other government agencies but failed when they didn’t make the cut.
However, the staff was nearly all from the local area in the camp. The camp jobs were better when compared to other choices, so the prison staff had a very different attitude.
Good Stuff. 2 weeks in to 2023 and you are already ahead of Calhoun. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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is it possible the light sentence was paid for?
How else can you explain a light sentence if you:
1. Lied to the FBI
2.helped kill and dispose of 6 or more horses.
3.Gave a horse EPO-which in itself can get you barred for life.
4.Sold non FDA approved drugs and also used them on his horses
5.Ratted on your friends.
6.bought horses while under indictment.
This POS deserves 30 years-and when he gets out-have a restraining order not to be within a mile of any Horse Racing Activity.
After seeing Surick perform all these nefarious acts--the man insnt sorry--he will just carry on -cloak and dagger stuff when he gets out.
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When you are strip searched and have nothing but your attitude and wits, given a bed roll and some old military pants and shirt and some personal hygiene products and escorted to you new bunk, you will realize wow, I am in prison.
You will be housed in a dorm with every walk or slivering level of society. You will new guy and everyone will size you up for how they can exploit or use you.
You will shower with these same criminals as well as sleep and eat as a unit. You will be told when to wake up , when and what to eat. You will need to find your value in this cage of predators. What are you going to do when the big dude demands $100 a month in his commissary account for protection? What will you do when he demands you do his laundry? What are you going to do when the fat bastard in the lower bunk is either jerking off or snoring like a Mack truck all night?
If anyone thinks this shit does not happen in a Camp Prison, is delusional. Camps are loaded with hard prisoners on the short side of the bid. Most will behave as not to risk losing the privilege's and sent back to a higher level of security. But, don't think for a second there are not scumbags waiting for fresh meat.
Make no mistake, a Camp is a Prison.
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as it should be
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Good Stuff. 2 weeks in to 2023 and you are already ahead of Calhoun. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I bow to Bernie. Doesn't everyone?
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Hope he gets 5 yrs. Anybody that knows the POS will try to be a big shot. Look at him, they aren't going to buy it, they fuck him up and he tries to escape. Gets caught and he gets more time. Seems like a good ending for him.
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enough of the "white collar "crime bullshit,
i will bet some of those clients who madoff destroyed their lives wish they were dead or maybe did kill themselves
gee i didnt murder anyone
well he did murder horses
he did take livelihood from other trainers and owners
crimes a crime
do the time
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Lets use some whoresmen's BS that they use when they say "look at all the jobs" harness racing provides.
So look at all the lives that were destroyed and dreams that never had a chance, because of the drug scandal.
Same lying cock suckers they are 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Nicky Shower Shoes must have given the Feds something that satisfied his burden of cooperation. I understand his credibility as a witness was compromised when he lied to agents. But, they must have got cooperation outside of those cases. Either way, Mrs. Surick's little boy will soon need to become a man. Let a wack job inmate get wind of how he killed horses, he might get a ride on the baloney pony. Yea, there will plenty of water sports at the resort, Club Fed.
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Is SCM covering this story and reporting from courthouse via court cam?
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Gossipgoin around where Oakes is was hewas in the shower and the guy next tohim got shanked n killed.
Dunno if true or not.
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Is SCM covering this story and reporting from courthouse via court cam?
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IT IS VRY CLEAR THAT MANY FOLKS HAVE NEVER SEEN A PRISON FROM THE INSIDE. I READ DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE TOTALLY WRONG AS WRONG COULD BE. THIS IS REAL. THESE ARE FOLKS THAT WORKED THEIR WAY DOWN FROM THE PEN OR MEDIUM OR LOW SECURITY. MORGANTOWN DOES HAVE A FENCE AROUND THE PRISON. NOT SURE WHO CALLED MORGANTOWN CLUB FED. MANY YEARS AGO MORGANTOWN HAD A POOL AND A GOLF COURSE---NO MORE. POOL FILLED IN AND IT IS FENCED IN---PERIOD. EVERYONE WORKS---LIGHTS OUT 9 PM. LIGHTS ON 5 AM. ROLL CALL AT BED AT 9 AM---4 PM AND 9 PM. EVERYONE WORKS---MANY AT THE PEN--20 CENTS PER HOUR---THE WORST FOOD YOU HAVE EVR SEEN OR SMELLED----YES, "CLUB FED!" THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CLUB FED.
THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS THAT UPON ARRIVAL WHEREVER THESE FOLKS ARE SENT---THE LEADERS OF THE PRISON OR CAMP ARE REQUIRED BY THE OTHER INMATES TO GET THE CASE/TRANSFER DOCS AND REVIEW TO SEE WHAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY GOT THERE. GOD BLESS YOU IF YOU WERE A CHOMO OR A INFORMANT. TRUTHFULLY, ASK WHITEY BULGER HOW LONG HE LASTED AT HAZELTON. ONE HOUR---TWO HOURS? SHANKDED? DEAD BEFORE HE UNPACKED. GEE, POSSIBLE HE HAD A FEW OF THE ABOVE ISSUES.
IN ALL HONESTY IF ANYONE THINKS THIS IS AN EASY SENTENCE YOU ARE SO WRONG. THIS IS NOT EASY. PEOPLE DIE EVERYDAY IN THE "CLUB FEDS" AND MOST GUARDS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. THEY WANT TO PROTECT THEIR PENSIONS WHICH ARE TREMENDOUS.
NO DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT I DO NOT CARE WHO GOES TO WHAT PRISON AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE AN INFORMANT ---THIS WILL BE A VERY TOUGH JOURNEY!!!
AN INFORMANT WILL BE DISCLOSED TO ALL THE OTHER INMATES AS ONCE SOMEONE DOES THIS---THEY WILL MOST LIKELY DO IT AGAIN. THERE ARE MANY INMATES IN CAMP THAT WAITED 30 YEARS TO SEE DAYLIGHT AND THEY WILL NOT RISK SOMEONE RATTING THEM OUT TO THE GUARDS TO GET A REDUCED SENTENCE.
BEEN TO MORGANOWN HUNDREDS OF TIMES AND THE FENCE SURROUNDS THE LOW SECURITY PRISON. MAYBE NOT AS BAD AS SOME OTHER HIGH PROFILE PRISONS BUT IT IS THERE!!!!!!
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CLUB FED.
PEOPLE DIE EVERYDAY IN THE "CLUB FEDS"
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Counselor:
How much time in prison do you think Surick gets? The other names that were blackened out, will they ever be seen or made public? If Surick lied about the Vet giving EPO, how much truth do they put in on names that he mentioned that were using illegal drugs? Why list them? I would guess the list is long. Can you at least tell how many names were blackened out?
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In 2019, 143 inmates in state and federal prisons were killed. There was no breakdown, but even if we assume that half of these occurred in federal prison{highly doubtful}, that doesn't quite align with camp counselor's hyperbole. Again, the camp counselor proves he is a bona fide, authentic, jackass.
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How else can you explain a light sentence if you:
1. Lied to the FBI
2.helped kill and dispose of 6 or more horses.
3.Gave a horse EPO-which in itself can get you barred for life.
4.Sold non FDA approved drugs and also used them on his horses
5.Ratted on your friends.
6.bought horses while under indictment.
This POS deserves 30 years-and when he gets out-have a restraining order not to be within a mile of any Horse Racing Activity.
After seeing Surick perform all these nefarious acts--the man insnt sorry--he will just carry on -cloak and dagger stuff when he gets out.
Surick is a slimeball, unless he brings smokes and spreads cheek he won't make too many friends in his 8 by 8
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Only thing that they should consider reducing is maybe the size of the dick he gets raped with. He looks like he will be a crier! ngc3
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From today's Harness Racing Update.
https://harnessracingupdate.com/2023/01/15/nick-surick-to-be-sentenced-thursday-for-his-role-in-horse-doping-scheme/
His defense team is doing what they were hired to do. But, let's get real. What were his choices? Be a stand-up guy and take it on the chin? It is not in his DNA or the DNA of 99.9% of anyone.
Nicky Shower Shoes is doing what is best for him. He ratted out everyone under indictment and many who were not. When was the last time Cassie Coleman raced a horse in the USA?
Remember , this was the little prick who buy up all the old and worn out horses he could find and light them up at Freehold, all the time walking around as if he was superior to all the hard working stiffs.
Mrs. Surick's little boy was a common cocksucker. He may never be able to race a horse again but, he can continue to suck cock for 48 months.
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Whatever time he gets isn't enough He might be safer in prison than outside of prison for rating everyone out. Whatever he gets he deserves it plus more.
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Only thing that they should consider reducing is maybe the size of the dick he gets raped with. He looks like he will be a crier! ngc3
I'll take your word on that.
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MY ESTIMATE IS 48-72 MONTHS. THE LETTER FROM PROSECUTOR HELPED REDUCE THE SENTENCE. THEY COULD HAVE REQUESTED AND RECEIVED MORE. THE JUDGE WILL RELY MORE ON TH PSR REPORT AS THE PSR WAS COMPLETED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THE OTHER PARTIES ARE BIASED---THE PSR IS SUPPOSED TO BE IOBJECTIVE AFTER EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND INTERVIEWS WERE HELD BY THE SPECIALIST. THE SPECIALIST WAS ON PHONE CONUCTING INTERVIEWS AND CALLING PARTIES TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE DEFENDANTS THAT ARE TO BE SENTENCED. THIS IS A VERY DEEP RESEACH DOCUMENT. FURTHER, THE DEFENDANT HIMSELF WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED ABOUT HIS ENTIRE LIFE. THE PSR IS THE MPOST HEAVILY WEIGHTED DOCUMENT OF ANY SENTENCING.
THESE ARE SERIOUS CHARGES. THE MAN ADMITTED THAT HE DID THESE THINGS IN COURT UNDER OATH. HE CANNOT SAY HE DID NOT DO THESE THINGS OR YOU CAN ADD PERJURY TO THE ONG LIST. THIS JUDGE QUESTIONED THE DEFENDANT ALREADY WHEN HE PLED GUILTY---SHE WILL DO SO AGAIN IN THE SENTENCING.
48 ON THE LOW END.
REGARDING THE STATISTICS LISTED BY OTHERS---THIS IS A JOKE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU ARE UNEDUCATED REGARDING THE LAW AND PRISON LIFE. IF PRESIDENTS CAN HIDE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS---WHAT DO YOU REALLY THINK HAPPENS IN PRISON? MANY WILL NEVER COME HOME. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "CLUB FED!"
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REGARDING THE STATISTICS LISTED BY OTHERS---THIS IS A JOKE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU ARE UNEDUCATED REGARDING THE LAW AND PRISON LIFE. IF PRESIDENTS CAN HIDE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS---WHAT DO YOU REALLY THINK HAPPENS IN PRISON? MANY WILL NEVER COME HOME. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
I cited DOJ statistics. Where is your evidence, jackoff?
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What became of the list of American and Canadian trainers that had purchased products, red acid ?
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Can anyone post the list of names
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Can anyone post the list of names
whos not on the list is shorter
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whos not on the list is shorter
There are a few high numbers " trainers" to pop up over the last year, a connect the dots game I'm sure if they chose to
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What became of the list of American and Canadian trainers that had purchased products, red acid ?
If this "Red Acid" that they were using is the same Red Acid to inject joints with it's not shit! Unless there are two types of Red Acid. Dr Connors(rip) in Delaware used it a lot and I never saw no more improvement than say Cortisone.
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Red acid is a pain killer mixed with synthetic epo
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https://www.harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru011523.pdf
Let's all feel sorry for this piece of shit now. He's upset because his prison won't have an open bar since he's a fucking drunk now and his wife divorced him. Fuck off Nick! I hope you have a gigantic cellmate that makes you drink toilet wine before he makes your farts sound like someone blowing across a beer bottle! You don't deserve anything less than the others just because you're a rat...a rat the "misremembered" a lot of things you tried telling the Feds once it was proven he's a liar! You deserve to serve every second you have coming to you for killing those horses and cheating fellow horsemen and the public! It will never be calculated how much you actually stole in purses and lost bets by the public! You are a true piece of shit!
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24 months max
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24 months max
I almost hope he gets less and see what he has coming for him after his release. I would tend to think Jorge and the boys would not take kindly to that! A little street justice might be better for pussy Nick!
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With his attitude he'll get fuck up quick and probably more than once. He better keep his mouth shut or it'll be worse.
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First two months
He’s GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT
JAIL CRED IS A MUST IR HE WILL BE SOMEONES BITCH
IS HE A STREET FIGHTER ?
ITS GOJNG TO RUFF EARLY
UNLESS HE GOES INTO PROTECTIVE CUSTODY
OR PAYS THE TOP GANG LEADERS FOR PROTECTION
It’s not a cake walk
TRUST ME I KNOW
I know people who HAVE DONE Penitentiary time
It’s way different than the county fvkin jail
They will eat u up there
Be careful sandals tmbz1
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i hope they tear his shpincter
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THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT WHEN THIS FELLA ENTERS CAMP THE CAMP "SNOWMAN" WILL REQUEST HIS COURT JUDGEMENT. ON THIS OFFICIAL DOCUMENT THERE WILL BE STATED CHARGES AND WHETHER HE COOPERATED OR NOT-----THE FELLOW PRISONERS WILL SERIOUSLY DEVOUR CHOMO'S AND INFORMANTS. THE PRISONERS---EVEN AT CAMP WANT TO GO HOME AND NOT BE EXPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO IS A INFORMANT.
48 MONTHS TO 72 MONTHS AND WILL TRULY HAVE THE ROUGHEST TIME OF ALL OF THE CONVICTED. EVEN IF HE ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE HIS STORY THE LAW LIBRARY CLERK HAS PACER AND WILL LOOK UP THE ENTIRE CASE AND INFORM THE OTHERS OF HIS COOPERATION. THIS YOUNG MAN IS IN FOR SOMETHING THAT HE NEVER BARGAINED ----PAIN AND SUFFERING!
"LOCKDOWNS" AND "THE SHU" WILL BECOME NEW VOCABULARY WORDS!
FOR THOSE WHO THINK THERE IS A "CLUB FED" ----ASK THOSE ALREADY SERVING THEIR TIME AT A CAMP! FORGET STATISTICS AS THEY ARE NOT REVEALED TO THE PUBLIC.
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THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT WHEN THIS FELLA ENTERS CAMP THE CAMP "SNOWMAN" WILL REQUEST HIS COURT JUDGEMENT. ON THIS OFFICIAL DOCUMENT THERE WILL BE STATED CHARGES AND WHETHER HE COOPERATED OR NOT-----THE FELLOW PRISONERS WILL SERIOUSLY DEVOUR CHOMO'S AND INFORMANTS. THE PRISONERS---EVEN AT CAMP WANT TO GO HOME AND NOT BE EXPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO IS A INFORMANT.
48 MONTHS TO 72 MONTHS AND WILL TRULY HAVE THE ROUGHEST TIME OF ALL OF THE CONVICTED. EVEN IF HE ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE HIS STORY THE LAW LIBRARY CLERK HAS PACER AND WILL LOOK UP THE ENTIRE CASE AND INFORM THE OTHERS OF HIS COOPERATION. THIS YOUNG MAN IS IN FOR SOMETHING THAT HE NEVER BARGAINED ----PAIN AND SUFFERING!
"LOCKDOWNS" AND "THE SHU" WILL BECOME NEW VOCABULARY WORDS!
FOR THOSE WHO THINK THERE IS A "CLUB FED" ----ASK THOSE ALREADY SERVING THEIR TIME AT A CAMP! FORGET STATISTICS AS THEY ARE NOT REVEALED TO THE PUBLIC.
Statistics are only revealed camp counselors ?
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Is it possible that Nicky sang like a canary and this sentence reduction request is part of his deal to make it APPEAR that Sandals didn't give them much , so as to take the informer heat off him?
You'd think the Feds would be good and pissed at him and not look to do him any favors?
Or maybe I watch too much Law and Order?
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Statistics are only revealed camp counselors ?
In a level 5 or a camp, all prisoners have jobs. Some work as admin. assistants. They already know who is coming and who is going. These guys will research the new meat before he arrives at admissions. The internet is accessible and they see the same info we see.
Nicky Shower Shoes is already branded a Rat. But this is not 1950. Most of the inmates are Rats. Mrs. Shuricks little boy will not be fighting to top 10 contenders as the resident Nit Wit may want to believe. What he will do is like in any other social setting, make friends and align with people of similar backgrounds and likes. No mistaking, there will always be someone who dislikes him for what ever reason. He still needs to be on his toes. If he is into homo activity, then there is that action for him. But, rape is not common if he minds his business. He might fund the right commissary accounts or make certain contact for others in exchange for protection. There is always someone, an inmate that runs the unit. He is often given privileges by the screws to keep order in the unit.
A camp is designated for guys with a long stretch who have completed most and will be released soon. They have a clean record at a more secure prison and are found unlikely to cause trouble or escape. Others, Like Nicky who have a longer bid but the pre sentencing report shows they are a low threat to escape or disrupt. They will not risk loosing that privilege just to fuck with someone. They will exploit every thing they can from a new dude.
So Nicky Shower Shoes will be fine if he can learn not to try and hustle and just fit in.
Chris Oakes is at Danbury, Connecticut. It is a Level 2 and a camp. They also have about 120 female inmates . I guess he found a way to fit in, so will Nick.
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My boy nicki just do what his Momma tell him to like a good son do I thinkhe deserves to be treated with respect for helping out. We promise he dont do it again
Me and my boy nickie say so on
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NO FEDERAL PRISON HAS THE INTERNET. ZERO. INMATES HAVE ILLEGAL PHONES BUT IF THEY GET CAUGHT IT IS "SHU" TIME AND MORE POINTS---ATT 11 POINTS THEY COULD BE FORCED UP A LADDER TO MINIMUM OR MEDIUM---NOT GOOD.
THERE IS A TEXT MACHINE THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OLD MCINTOSH THAT YOU CAN TEXT OUT AND RECEIVE MESSAGES INTO YOUR PRIVATE TEXT MAIL. THESE TEXT ARE MONITORED BY THE PRISON STAFF---AS IS EVERY PHONE CALL MADE GOING OUT. YOU GET 30 MINUTES PER MONTH ON THE PHONE EXCEPT IN THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS ---IN THOSE TWO MONTHS YOU GET 1 HOUR TOTAL--THERE IS NO INCOMING CALLS AND ONLY MAIL 5 DAYS A WEEK---ALL MAIL IS OPENED AND READ BY STAFF AND PHOTO COPIED. FURTHER NO ORIGINAL PICTURES/PHOTOS ARE PERMITTED INTO THE CAMP OR FACILITY. YOU HAVE ZERO FREEDOM AND THAT IS AT CAMP!
TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF THIS FELLAS LIFE! HE IS ELIGIBLE TO NOTHING FREE FROM THE GOVERNMENT----ALL GONE.Is it possible that Nicky sang like a canary and this sentence reduction request is part of his deal to make it APPEAR that Sandals didn't give them much , so as to take the informer heat off him?
You'd think the Feds would be good and pissed at him and not look to do him any favors?
Or maybe I watch too much Law and Order?
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Luc swore he would get home confinement.
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Luc swore he would get home confinement.
You can't believe that Lucpark guy.
Ask the 23 winners of his contests still waiting for their prizes.
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Lol luc kinda reminds a guy of a dog chasing its own tail... Makes a lot of noise while going in circles, not getting anywhere but letting the whole world know he's got his head up his ass!!!
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He' about the size of a wiener dog too! ngc3
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THERE WAS NEVER A CHANCE THT THIS MAN WOULD GET HOME CONFINEMENT---EVEN WITH THE PROFER HE WAS DESTINED TO RECEIVE 48-72 MONTHS PLUS PROBATION --RESTITUTION AND FINES.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR GUILTY EVIDENCE BEFORE THE DEFENDANTS ARE CHARGED. TRUTHFULLY, 97% OF ALL CHARGED IN THE FEDERAL SYSTEM ARE FOUND GUILTY AND 80% PLEAD OUT. YOU HAVE LESS THAN 3% TO WIN AT TRIAL. DOES NOT HAPPEN!
IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FROM THE DAY THIS FELLA WAS CHARGED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN JAIL TIME THE PROFFER JUST WOULD GIVE HIM AROUND 10% OF HIS FINAL SENTENCE!
I BELEIVE JUDGE WILL GIVE HIM THE OPTION TO APPEAL BUT THE JUDGE WILL FORCE HIM TO REMAIN INCARCERATED IF THE APPEAL IS FILED. HE CANNOT WIN AN APPEAL---RECALL HE COULD BE SENTENCED TO MORE TIME IN ANOTHER TRIAL WITH A DIFFERENT JUDGE. OTHER THAN MONEY FOR FEES--HIS ATTORNEY WOULD ADVISE DO NOT APPEAL AS HE CANNOT WIN--IT CAN ONLY BE WORSE.
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This guy knows his stuff and it helps with him explaining how the court system works.
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THERE WAS NEVER A CHANCE THT THIS MAN WOULD GET HOME CONFINEMENT---EVEN WITH THE PROFER HE WAS DESTINED TO RECEIVE 48-72 MONTHS PLUS PROBATION --RESTITUTION AND FINES.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR GUILTY EVIDENCE BEFORE THE DEFENDANTS ARE CHARGED. TRUTHFULLY, 97% OF ALL CHARGED IN THE FEDERAL SYSTEM ARE FOUND GUILTY AND 80% PLEAD OUT. YOU HAVE LESS THAN 3% TO WIN AT TRIAL. DOES NOT HAPPEN!
IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FROM THE DAY THIS FELLA WAS CHARGED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN JAIL TIME THE PROFFER JUST WOULD GIVE HIM AROUND 10% OF HIS FINAL SENTENCE!
I BELEIVE JUDGE WILL GIVE HIM THE OPTION TO APPEAL BUT THE JUDGE WILL FORCE HIM TO REMAIN INCARCERATED IF THE APPEAL IS FILED. HE CANNOT WIN AN APPEAL---RECALL HE COULD BE SENTENCED TO MORE TIME IN ANOTHER TRIAL WITH A DIFFERENT JUDGE. OTHER THAN MONEY FOR FEES--HIS ATTORNEY WOULD ADVISE DO NOT APPEAL AS HE CANNOT WIN--IT CAN ONLY BE WORSE.
Question for the Good Councilor; is 'Little Nicky subject to state charges for these or related crimes? Same question for all, I guess.
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why no rico act whit these guys
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why no rico act whit these guys
Good question--i was thinking the same thing---would have given them more severe penalties would it not??
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It would have froze their assets at the arraignment. Not giving them a chance to hide assets.
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ABSOLUTELY GREAT QUESTION!!!! YES!!!! THE STATE OR STATES CAN FILE CHARGES AS WELL FOR THE SAME CRIMES!!! AND YES--HE CAN BE FOUND GUILTY ON NEW CHARGES AND IN FACT SERVE CONCURRENT SENTENCES OR INDIVIDUAL SENTENCES. MANY RE SERVING TIME IN FEDERAL OR STATE PRISON WHEN THE OTHER COMES AND PICKS UP THE INMATE FOR NEW CHARGES BY EITHER STATE OR FEDERAL.
RECENTLY A CASE INVOLVED A MAN FOUND GUILTY BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON FLEECING INNOCENT HOME OWNERS IN PHILADELPHIA--MARYLAND AND DELAWARE----WAS SERVING SENTENCE IN A CAMP ( PLED GUILTY) THE STATE FILED NEW CHARGES FOR STATE CRIMES OF THE IDENTICAL CRIMES AND THE INMATE WAS TRANSFERRED TO STATE CUSTODY TO BE TRIED.
THAT WAS A BRILLIANT QUESTION.
ADDITIONALLY, THESE FOLKS CAN NOW BE SUED IN CIVIL COURT AND THE INMATES MUST HIRE COUNSEL TO DEFEND OR THEY MUST DEFEND THEIRSELVES OR A JUDGMENT WILL BE ENTERED. I WOULD EXPECT SOME OF THESE VICTIMS TO SUE IN CIVIL COURT EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN NEVER COLLECT WITH A $42 MILLION JUDGMENT AGAINST THEM. THEY CAN POSSIBLY FIND SOME ASSETS THRU DISCOVERY.
MULTIPLE STATES COULD FILE CHARGES SINCE THEY TOOK PLACE IN THEIR STATES
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I fear nothing will happen at the state level as that is where politics and big $$$$ get involved and the rugs roll out.
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I AGREE. THIS WOULD SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THESE FOLKS IF THE STATES DID FILE NEW CHARGES AGAINST THESE FOLKS. THIS HAS HELPED THE INDUSTRY A LOT BUT TRUTHFULLY MORE NEEDS DONE.
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is he behind a wall yet?
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is he behind a wall yet?
I hope so. If not does anyone know when he's going in? He better stop at cvs and get some Vaseline. The sound of that door slamming shut on his cage the first time is a sound he will never forgot
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CRIMINAL JUDGMENT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED ON PACER. THAT IS WHAT SPELLS OUT THE SENTENCE AND DIRECTIVES SUCH AS WHEN AND WHERE TO REPORT. FURTHER, IT WOULD LIST THE SPECIAL DEMANDS . AS OF TODAY NOTHING FILED.
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YOU ARE THE BEST!!!
THANKS FOR KEEPING US INFORMED
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This may help.
https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/byname.jsp