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Title: Ohio --- don't appeal will reduce penalty.
Post by: dinkadoo on January 13, 2023, 10:52:42 AM
Last few weeks I have noticed more than ever that Ohio likes to play the game of if you don't bother us you can get a reduced fine/days.

Not sure how I feel about that -- It's like there is a due process and you have the right to appeal, but as in most cases your gonna lose so we will dangle a carrot of reduced penalties so as to not annoy us. But if you do appeal, in many cases its double the fine.

Any thoughts / Opinions
Title: Re: Ohio --- don't appeal will reduce penalty.
Post by: jupiter on January 13, 2023, 12:54:11 PM
cuts the appeals down.
Title: Re: Ohio --- don't appeal will reduce penalty.
Post by: caddy on January 13, 2023, 01:33:36 PM
Last few weeks I have noticed more than ever that Ohio likes to play the game of if you don't bother us you can get a reduced fine/days.

Not sure how I feel about that -- It's like there is a due process and you have the right to appeal, but as in most cases your gonna lose so we will dangle a carrot of reduced penalties so as to not annoy us. But if you do appeal, in many cases its double the fine.

Any thoughts / Opinions

the decisions on appeals has resulted over time to be a lesser period of time and a smaller fine, so - tho it seems that due process is being circumvented ... they were already operating that way, so why is it any different than the past ?
Title: Re: Ohio --- don't appeal will reduce penalty.
Post by: samstar on January 19, 2023, 09:40:57 PM
I don't like it at all. The judgements are made by judges who are controlled by the commission and not allowed to think outside the box and to get a real hearing you must appeal.  It's certainly immoral if not illegal.
Title: Re: Ohio --- don't appeal will reduce penalty.
Post by: jupiter on January 20, 2023, 02:33:34 PM
How do you beat the commission, most of the judges I know hate to do anything but watch the race, they don't want to make judgements, this just makes their job easier. Less appeals
Title: Re: Ohio --- don't appeal will reduce penalty.
Post by: Peb on January 20, 2023, 04:01:18 PM
If you watch the appeals it looks like the trainer appeals so they can keep racing and take their days when it is better for their stable.
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