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Title: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: LUCPARK on June 22, 2022, 08:37:49 PM
They wood hire ex trainers and drivers to have seminars  etc etc

On what to look for when buying babies and horses

USta does nothin to attract new owners new blood

Just the same old fcks at every fckin  banquet

I’m sick and tired of seeing these old fcks dressed in 80s clothes at the functions

ATTRACT NEW BLOOD
 USTA !!

STOP MILKING THE SYSTEM
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: LUCPARK on June 22, 2022, 08:39:23 PM
Jeff gural is no the answer

Either tmbz1
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Emperor Dapple on June 22, 2022, 08:52:26 PM
They wood hire ex trainers and drivers to have seminars  etc etc

On what to look for when buying babies and horses

USta does nothin to attract new owners new blood

Just the same old fcks at every fckin  banquet

I’m sick and tired of seeing these old fcks dressed in 80s clothes at the functions

ATTRACT NEW BLOOD
 USTA !!

STOP MILKING THE SYSTEM

What's wrong with 80's clothes ?   73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 22, 2022, 10:58:42 PM
That's what I was thinking
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Superfecta on June 22, 2022, 11:33:44 PM
They wood hire ex trainers and drivers to have seminars  etc etc

On what to look for when buying babies and horses

USta does nothin to attract new owners new blood

Just the same old fcks at every fckin  banquet

I’m sick and tired of seeing these old fcks dressed in 80s clothes at the functions

ATTRACT NEW BLOOD
 USTA !!

STOP MILKING THE SYSTEM

I am sorry to say this but people really don't like the sport and it's very poor reputation will keep all new investors away.
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Parked on June 23, 2022, 07:01:44 AM
Those 80 clothes have deep pockets.   
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: caddy on June 23, 2022, 09:58:40 AM
That's what I was thinking

bust out the leisure suit, silk disco shirts and chains.  gots to look like a player
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Emperor Dapple on June 23, 2022, 11:19:32 AM
I am sorry to say this but people really don't like the sport and it's very poor reputation will keep all new investors away.

Above is true but to add the reality is ( and I say this as a former horseman who took his kids to the track on occasion) that my adult kids and their friends have zero interest in harness racing.. It’s not gonna change no matter what.. they don’t look at it as a sport and see no excitement in it… their generation shows some interest in T-Bred triple crown racing but that’s where it ends .. Unless The Kardashians start tweeting and Tik Toking that they are hanging out at harness tracks and it’s cool , the younger generations could care less and wouldn’t even notice if harness racing ceased to exist , no different than a tree falling down in the forest .. they just don’t care.. those of us around who still enjoy it have to just accept it for what it is ..
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: old guy on June 23, 2022, 03:27:40 PM
          tmbz1
Above is true but to add the reality is ( and I say this as a former horseman who took his kids to the track on occasion) that my adult kids and their friends have zero interest in harness racing.. It’s not gonna change no matter what.. they don’t look at it as a sport and see no excitement in it… their generation shows some interest in T-Bred triple crown racing but that’s where it ends .. Unless The Kardashians start tweeting and Tik Toking that they are hanging out at harness tracks and it’s cool , the younger generations could care less and wouldn’t even notice if harness racing ceased to exist , no different than a tree falling down in the forest .. they just don’t care.. those of us around who still enjoy it have to just accept it for what it is ..
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: asbestos on June 23, 2022, 04:22:04 PM
   When i read this, first guy i thought of was andy bling bling! ngc3
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 23, 2022, 04:27:49 PM
bust out the leisure suit, silk disco shirts and chains.  gots to look like a player




Wrong decade.
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Emperor Dapple on June 23, 2022, 06:11:02 PM



Wrong decade.

 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Open bridle on June 23, 2022, 06:36:05 PM
Above is true but to add the reality is ( and I say this as a former horseman who took his kids to the track on occasion) that my adult kids and their friends have zero interest in harness racing.. It’s not gonna change no matter what.. they don’t look at it as a sport and see no excitement in it… their generation shows some interest in T-Bred triple crown racing but that’s where it ends .. Unless The Kardashians start tweeting and Tik Toking that they are hanging out at harness tracks and it’s cool , the younger generations could care less and wouldn’t even notice if harness racing ceased to exist , no different than a tree falling down in the forest .. they just don’t care.. those of us around who still enjoy it have to just accept it for what it is ..
Agree, too many other distractions for the younger generations. Very few come to watch the races.
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Harness racer on June 23, 2022, 08:51:42 PM
USTA doesn't care!  Why do we keep discussing this?  They are interested in keep their cushy little jobs and protecting the ass kissers!  They are a completely worthless organization!
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2022, 08:53:24 PM
It’s like CLUB MED ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Harness racer on June 23, 2022, 09:04:54 PM
It’s like CLUB MED ngc3 ngc3

Exactly!   tmbz1
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: seriously on June 23, 2022, 09:23:37 PM
If they really cared about bringing in new fans, instead of the 60+ year old drivers that sucked in the 1980s that still drive, dig up some dead people and have them drive.  Also, maybe narrow the gene pool from 13 families to 6. 

Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Open bridle on June 23, 2022, 10:36:26 PM
The only time I see a lot of younger people coming to the races is Little Brown Jug day. But most are there only to drink, party. Not like the the old days where most of the crowd followed the sport.
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: caddy on June 24, 2022, 11:35:35 AM
The only time I see a lot of younger people coming to the races is Little Brown Jug day. But most are there only to drink, party. Not like the the old days where most of the crowd followed the sport.

Miami Valley used to draw a 20s and 30s crowd; BUT, this year [2022] w/ the switch to afternoon racing and eliminating Friday and Saturday .. well,  crowd's were smaller- and, instead of young adults it was a lot of older gents doing a little day drinkin'.
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Brown jug on June 24, 2022, 07:02:45 PM
my following comment may not attract new fans but it might get current ones to tune in online more and wager more
for the most part the nightly broadcasts are absolutely horrible
specifically tracks like northfield, meadows, yonkers
they give a minute analysis or picks with very little detail or explanation
then they put on some music for 10 minutes, they have people tuned in and that's the best use of time, playing music ??
how about talking to one driver after every race win or lose to get his view/explanation on how the race played out, surely these guys have time between races, talk to a trainer before every race on his horse, its tendencies etc, he doesn't have to say if he will win or not
no analysis after they come on track pointing out some odds that might  be higher or lower than expected
no suggestions of why a favourite might be vulnerable etc
no suggested wagers
in other words no real help for what people are watching for....BETTING!! TRYING TO WIN SOME MOENY
as for the big tracks
mohawk tries but overall its just weak
the big m  has lots of information, they come on after the post parade, they talk to people in the paddock, wether you like the hosts or not is your call but their format is good

overall as an industry it is just very weak and a lost opportunity
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Open bridle on June 24, 2022, 10:32:04 PM
my following comment may not attract new fans but it might get current ones to tune in online more and wager more
for the most part the nightly broadcasts are absolutely horrible
specifically tracks like northfield, meadows, yonkers
they give a minute analysis or picks with very little detail or explanation
then they put on some music for 10 minutes, they have people tuned in and that's the best use of time, playing music ??
how about talking to one driver after every race win or lose to get his view/explanation on how the race played out, surely these guys have time between races, talk to a trainer before every race on his horse, its tendencies etc, he doesn't have to say if he will win or not
no analysis after they come on track pointing out some odds that might  be higher or lower than expected
no suggestions of why a favourite might be vulnerable etc
no suggested wagers
in other words no real help for what people are watching for....BETTING!! TRYING TO WIN SOME MOENY
as for the big tracks
mohawk tries but overall its just weak
the big m  has lots of information, they come on after the post parade, they talk to people in the paddock, wether you like the hosts or not is your call but their format is good

overall as an industry it is just very weak and a lost opportunity
The bottom line is what's more exciting to bet on for the younger kids:  NFL / NBA / NCAA/ etc.  or some horses they know nothing about going around a track.  When we were growing up horse racing was the only exciting game in town to bet your money. Not anymore. USTA is fighting a losing battle to attract betting money and younger fans away from these other venues.
Title: Re: If the USTA really cared about bringing in new Fans
Post by: Brown jug on June 25, 2022, 10:48:39 AM
you are correct, no young people interested in harness, t bred has a bit more of a hope as they are trying to make it a place to be for young people, harness, no chance, still a hillbilly sport in their eyes and the sport does little to dispel that
in fact now sports wagering is at a whole new level
from a few years ago where pro sports leagues looked the other way to now promoting during the game
you are bombarded with betting options, props etc live or on the telecast
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