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Title: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on June 17, 2022, 08:05:32 PM
I've been watching them on video since he purchased them

Three started today, one at the Meadows in 2.00 (Swinging Senorita by What The Hill which Anthony said can be pigs to train) and at Mohawk he had two Tactical Landings in. Una Madonna $100,000 purchase won in a slow 2.02 and its stablemate got lonely on the lead and broke halfway down the stretch or they run 1-2

Looks like he has some really good colts, two of which ran their last quarters together in their first workout in 26.4 and are both in Monday night with a 3rd one. Enzo Arguello by Father Patrick ML 9-2 and his stablemate Carter Michael Deo 5-2 (International Moni) and later on Brace for Landi which he paid $155,000 for by Tactical Landing and is a half brother to Shake it Cerry. Gonna be short odds on that one
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: Brown jug on June 17, 2022, 08:36:56 PM
lots of people have nice ones this time of the year
we shall see
when you buy 60 you would hope to have a few good ones
certainly a step up in pedigree from prior years
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on June 17, 2022, 08:43:21 PM
lots of people have nice ones this time of the year
we shall see
when you buy 60 you would hope to have a few good ones
certainly a step up in pedigree from prior years

Yep, I certainly agree with that
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: horses first on June 18, 2022, 12:27:06 PM
He overloaded on TL because they had value because they sold cheaper than expected value. Buyers of first crops don't like sires who couldn't make the grade at 2. He may have had speed but couldn't harness that speed. 87 sold at the sales last year see how many qualify and how many can make some speed the first few times out. Tony A qualified one in 58.2 today. 12 days to the first NJSS see how many go and if thru can compete with Walner. Along with the MH's.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: wisha roder on June 19, 2022, 11:12:12 AM
I've been watching them on video since he purchased them

Three started today, one at the Meadows in 2.00 (Swinging Senorita by What The Hill which Anthony said can be pigs to train) and at Mohawk he had two Tactical Landings in. Una Madonna $100,000 purchase won in a slow 2.02 and its stablemate got lonely on the lead and broke halfway down the stretch or they run 1-2

Looks like he has some really good colts, two of which ran their last quarters together in their first workout in 26.4 and are both in Monday night with a 3rd one. Enzo Arguello by Father Patrick ML 9-2 and his stablemate Carter Michael Deo 5-2 (International Moni) and later on Brace for Landi which he paid $155,000 for by Tactical Landing and is a half brother to Shake it Cerry. Gonna be short odds on that one
Crantini (International Moni) is a nice colt if he keeps his head together--but he is a chestnut..I would add that the What the Hills are foulgaited pigs.  For getting the best mares in Ohio, he's much overrated.  If you follow the fairs and the buckeye stakes, keep an eye on little Victor Cruise (Yankee Cruiser). 
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: whiptherabbit on June 19, 2022, 06:30:09 PM
Please stop driving you fucking hack!!! Look at the first two tonight at Georgian!!! First race abruptly pulls the pocket at 3/4 near drops Cullen & finishes up the track!! second race 5 horse field, one breaks behind the gate he sends his as fast as far as she can go which wasn’t far of course, dreadful!
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on June 21, 2022, 04:44:17 AM
Crantini (International Moni) is a nice colt if he keeps his head together--but he is a chestnut..I would add that the What the Hills are foulgaited pigs.  For getting the best mares in Ohio, he's much overrated.  If you follow the fairs and the buckeye stakes, keep an eye on little Victor Cruise (Yankee Cruiser).

Speaking on International Moni's, The Stable has a better one than Crantini in Carter Michael Deo who raced tonight and broke at the start (The trotting hopples are going back on next start). He lost a ton of ground and made a shitload up in the stretch and was full of running under wraps at the finish. He had lost about 70 yards so he was never in it but he came a pretty decent last half without being asked. James MacDonald told his brother Anthony that he is a special horse and to keep him in Ontario instead of sending him to PA. He is staked to everything.

I am going to bet him next time he starts with the hopples back on. He won't break and time will tell if this colt is as good as they think
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: wiggles44 on June 21, 2022, 10:30:02 AM
Speaking on International Moni's, The Stable has a better one than Crantini in Carter Michael Deo who raced tonight and broke at the start (The trotting hopples are going back on next start). He lost a ton of ground and made a shitload up in the stretch and was full of running under wraps at the finish. He had lost about 70 yards so he was never in it but he came a pretty decent last half without being asked. James MacDonald told his brother Anthony that he is a special horse and to keep him in Ontario instead of sending him to PA. He is staked to everything.

I am going to bet him next time he starts with the hopples back on. He won't break and time will tell if this colt is as good as they think

Short pays with him out of the ticket…..
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: LUCPARK on June 21, 2022, 10:41:07 AM
a mac
has weeded out the idiot owners

and has good investors in  his ponzie scheme now
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: Brown jug on June 21, 2022, 12:43:15 PM
oh oh
timbo is drinking the kool aid
careful now
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on June 21, 2022, 02:50:24 PM
oh oh
timbo is drinking the kool aid
careful now

Haha, no, I watch all his videos and often he mentions a horse and what went wrong with it and I bet accordingly the next start. Had quite a few winners, some of them at more than 10-1

I will say this, the man covers thousands of miles a week going from Ontario to Northfield Park and The Meadows.

And yeah, the qauli8ty of horses has gotten much better
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: Brown jug on June 21, 2022, 06:57:29 PM
agreed
all good
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 22, 2022, 03:10:11 PM
Has some bustout trainers working for him
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: SDST2009 on June 26, 2022, 12:08:25 AM
Haha, no, I watch all his videos and often he mentions a horse and what went wrong with it and I bet accordingly the next start. Had quite a few winners, some of them at more than 10-1

I will say this, the man covers thousands of miles a week going from Ontario to Northfield Park and The Meadows.

And yeah, the qauli8ty of horses has gotten much better

I follow the videos too, TTT, to some advantage. You're right, the guy works his ass off. As others have mentioned, he has some pretty good trainers on the payroll too.

I also think if you look at the quality he bought for the $$ spent it's pretty impressive. No secret the Tactical Landings and International Monis undersold this year and he picked up some really nice bred horses for a lot less than their sales page/conformation should have dictated. Can confirm this bc I laid eyes on several of them at the sales and a lot were "on the list" -  difference is, he's buying about 50x the quantity I am. The two International Monis in particular mentioned in this thread were extremely astute buys at the price point.

My one negative observation is, he pushes them to get to the races before some of them are ready. Probably a product of the shareholder model; the majority of owners probably aren't willing to wait on them. A lot of the stock seems to have their best year at 2 and fizzle thereafter - a predictable outcome of too much, too soon. On the flip side of that, though - you can make money early if you have them ready early, before the really good ones get going.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on June 26, 2022, 04:34:30 PM
Nice filly Una Madonna.  That's 2-2 and a nice 1.55.1 mile to win easy Oak Grove race two
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on June 26, 2022, 08:29:15 PM
AMAC said The Andy Miller filly who won the 1st sold for insane money before the race. Una Madonna went faster and considering she got turned away at the border due to a paperwork mix-up, she only arrived from Ontario midnight Friday night after 12 hours.

Looks like she has gone faster than any 2yo so far (Trotters)

He said on his video, he always thought she was good but was shocked at how good she was today. Said he kicked out the plugs and she changed gears.

Now with hundreds of babies starting to race, it will be interesting to see who comes out on top.

Time will tell.

I also see Ake had one run second the other day by Father Patrick from New Zealand who was bred there out of a kiwi mare and was bred to US time. He is owned by John Curtin Bloodstock who makes a shitload of $$$ selling horses over here for big money



Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: LUCPARK on June 26, 2022, 09:41:24 PM
Una Madonna. Is a beast tmbz1

Prob worth 500 k

After today
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 01, 2022, 10:24:56 PM
Una Madonna. Is a beast tmbz1

Prob worth 500 k

After today

Who purchased Una Madonna?    Anthony said on his video today that she has been sold for big money


Also that Carter Michael Deo when out by more than 10 lengths broke after touching his knee.  That horse is a beast. I didn't realize how big he is. He was on pace for a 55 last half b4 he went nuts
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: LUCPARK on July 01, 2022, 11:12:00 PM
prob the sweedes tmbz1

bring back home after racing
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 01, 2022, 11:36:51 PM
prob the sweedes tmbz1

bring back home after racing

That makes perfect sense. It's incredible the $$$ that trotting fillies can be worth but very understandable since they have the racing and breeding which gives them 2 shots at the big windfall
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: Harness racer on July 02, 2022, 07:56:46 AM
Who purchased Una Madonna?    Anthony said on his video today that she has been sold for big money


Also that Carter Michael Deo when out by more than 10 lengths broke after touching his knee.  That horse is a beast. I didn't realize how big he is. He was on pace for a 55 last half b4 he went nuts

Was up ten but only to 3/4 in 1:29.1.  So maybe a 58 mile.  definitely not 55.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: LUCPARK on July 02, 2022, 09:31:21 AM
That makes perfect sense. It's incredible the $$$ that trotting fillies can be worth but very understandable since they have the racing and breeding which gives them 2 shots at the big windfall

sold for slighty over a million.

Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 04, 2022, 02:17:22 PM
Una Madonna is going to Tony Alagna so Anthony said.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 04, 2022, 04:52:43 PM
Crantini wins, International Money Colt, half brother to Macho Martini wins 1st up at Pocono for Zeron.

The horse that ran second for Ake is an import from New Zealand and is owned by Curtin the bloodstock agent from there. He was born January 1st so he fits in over here. Nice horse.

AMAC has always said Crantini was a good one.

Another International money who is by Love You. Those things are going to go great guns over here. That French breeding is superior in stamina. In fact it's fairly obvious that European breed is when they come over here. The Ready Cashes, Love You's and sons of him are going to revolutionize the breed over here, IMO
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 04, 2022, 06:41:05 PM
AMAC strikes again, Swinging Senorita (What the Hill) wins $150,000 race at Scioto

The man knows how to pick em at the sales.

He also said the What the Hill's are piggish early in their training
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: Casualfan1 on July 05, 2022, 03:18:10 AM
I don’t pay alot of attention to Anthony’s driving but what I have seen does he jus t leave out of there grab the front and go as far as they will go. I’m serious when I say I’m not sure I’ve seen him grab a hole
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 05, 2022, 01:20:34 PM
I don’t pay alot of attention to Anthony’s driving but what I have seen does he jus t leave out of there grab the front and go as far as they will go. I’m serious when I say I’m not sure I’ve seen him grab a hole

He's doing that a lot more of late. One of them yesterday, he grabbed the two hole when coming from mid-pack but yeah, He even mentioned on his You Tube video that he nearly blew the $150,000 race as he opened up too early and just missed getting nailed.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: wisha roder on July 06, 2022, 10:33:47 PM
AMAC strikes again, Swinging Senorita (What the Hill) wins $150,000 race at Scioto

The man knows how to pick em at the sales.

He also said the What the Hill's are piggish early in their training
I'm told Senorita never was a problem like some of the What the Hill's.  Una Madonna sold for 1 million canadian, going to Alagna.  Stable turned down $425K for Crantini.  I would agree that A. needs to take a seat more with these 2 year olds. 
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: John1417 on July 06, 2022, 10:58:34 PM
Keep an eye on Vivian's Dream !!!
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: upthetrack1234 on July 07, 2022, 02:23:33 PM
Tailgate Buzz just win at the Meadows in 156.2…. Fastest 2yo trotter there this year… with AMac anchoring him down too  tmbz1
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: Harness racer on July 07, 2022, 02:26:00 PM
Stable does look to have a few nice ones.  Does anyone (other than AMac) make anything?  Do they have their share of one when it sells?  I know you won't get rich off small fractional ownership, but can you make a couple bucks to keep you in the game?
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 07, 2022, 03:34:50 PM
And he just went 1:55 and 4/5 with another one. Spitfire Oversees. Another International Moni
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 07, 2022, 03:55:26 PM
I'm told Senorita never was a problem like some of the What the Hill's.  Una Madonna sold for 1 million canadian, going to Alagna.  Stable turned down $425K for Crantini.  I would agree that A. needs to take a seat more with these 2 year olds.
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He must have listened to you. He took a seat 3 back on rail with both and then launched them at end of back straight
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: wisha roder on July 07, 2022, 10:28:17 PM
Stable does look to have a few nice ones.  Does anyone (other than AMac) make anything?  Do they have their share of one when it sells?  I know you won't get rich off small fractional ownership, but can you make a couple bucks to keep you in the game?
Yes, i had a profit last year even though one of my horses was a bust.  I re-invested that credit into buying more yearlings last fall. You can leave your money accumulate in your account.  I know of several owners who haven't paid any bills for a couple of years now.  It's a chance to own a piece of a quality horse without a big investment.  I know of one owner who has around 30, 1% shares.  In reality, it doesn't make a difference if you have 30% of one horse or 1% of 30 horses. Anthony and his crew run a top notch organization and i don't know how he keeps up other than to say a smart businessman surrounds himself with good workers. I'm amazed with the number of owners that travel hours to watch their horse race and they only own 1 or 2%, but they love it and that's what it's all about.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: SDST2009 on July 07, 2022, 11:36:21 PM
I know you won't get rich off small fractional ownership, but can you make a couple bucks to keep you in the game?

Yes.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: LUCPARK on July 08, 2022, 11:00:59 PM
A Mac at Hawthorne winning races  tonite

Never thought I would see him here
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: upthetrack1234 on July 10, 2022, 07:02:17 PM
Feeling Is mutual…He never wanted to see you there either  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 13, 2022, 02:20:14 PM
AMAC is 3 for 3 today at The Meadows

1-5 on the last one Austral Hanover who he is shocked that he is any good because apparently he showed no talent in training until he got on the track and raced.
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 13, 2022, 03:47:57 PM
A 4th winner for The Stable in Crantini and Scott Zeron. 3-5 though. Horse is 2 for 2. $76, 200 race. That's 4 winners in 5 races at The Meadows
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: wiggles44 on July 13, 2022, 05:23:21 PM
Allards (Fishman) mix still undetectable
And reduced to sell
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 21, 2022, 02:10:42 PM
Carter Michael Deo finally trots all the way and wins

Crantini 3-3 PSS wins easy. earnings approaching $100,000 already
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 21, 2022, 02:49:31 PM
Next one jumps it off
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 21, 2022, 03:05:54 PM
Next one jumps it off

Sure did
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: Brown jug on July 21, 2022, 08:23:18 PM
yes they do and good for them, crantini could be a player in bigger races down the road
they have them ready to roll at first asking
however its like any stable that buys between 60-100 yearlings, there is and should be a few good ones
you just hope you are in on the ones that do well and not the balance that  no one hears about that are already sold off, struggling in a maiden or turned out, and that applies to all stables
need  a few more outfits like this, good for the overall business
Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 05, 2022, 09:12:14 PM
The Stable can not be stopped. Kings County track record at Scioto last week wins the open there again at fucking 7-1 which is more than he was last week when he wired the same field.

Re Overback that he purchased off of OnGait or Preferred, I forgot) wins at 7-1 at Mohawk.

The guy knows how to pick horseflesh and he is being rewarded for the Tactical Landings and the International Moni's

Title: Re: The Stable has a bunch of nice 2yolds
Post by: SDST2009 on August 07, 2022, 09:28:26 PM
The Stable can not be stopped. Kings County track record at Scioto last week wins the open there again at fucking 7-1 which is more than he was last week when he wired the same field.

Re Overback that he purchased off of OnGait or Preferred, I forgot) wins at 7-1 at Mohawk.

The guy knows how to pick horseflesh and he is being rewarded for the Tactical Landings and the International Moni's

The thing I am impressed with is the price point of these horses. When is the last time any of the "big" trot trainers brought a horse they (or their owners) paid less than $50k for to these big races? or put another way, what level of return are those trainers getting on their 6-figure (or 7-figure, for that matter) yearlings on the whole? It's refreshing to see decent horses that can fit the budget of the average owner racing well. It's very smart the way the Tactical Landings and International Moni's were bought - good bred horses with new, unproven sires that didn't dominate on the track. It's paying off nicely.
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