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Title: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Lance on June 15, 2022, 08:59:57 AM



The yearling prices for starters in the NA Cup.  Don't really have a point other than it's pretty interesting. Considering what yearlings have been selling for, not a lot of high priced ones.

1 Fourever Boy            $50,000                                       
2 I Did It Myway          Homebred                                   
3 Ron                         $26,000                               
4 Beach Glass              Homebred                               
5 Pebble Beach(L)        $85,000                                     
6 Ario Hanover             $45,000                             
 7 Night Hawk(L)           $35,000                           
 8 Kolby Two Step          $12,000                         
 9 Frozen Hanover         $325,000                               
 10 Mad Max Hanover      $50,000                     
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Locked in with pace on June 15, 2022, 11:35:48 AM
one correction: Beach Glass sold for $30,000. not a homebred. another bargain
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Lance on June 15, 2022, 12:07:33 PM
one correction: Beach Glass sold for $30,000. not a homebred. another bargain
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they same ownership group, Schooner Stable bought the mare, Im With Her for $90K at Harrisburg then bred her to SBSW. The also own a 2yr old Stay Hungry and a yearling Downbytheseaside from the same mare. 
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Open bridle on June 16, 2022, 07:30:36 PM


The yearling prices for starters in the NA Cup.  Don't really have a point other than it's pretty interesting. Considering what yearlings have been selling for, not a lot of high priced ones.

1 Fourever Boy            $50,000                                       
2 I Did It Myway          Homebred                                   
3 Ron                         $26,000                               
4 Beach Glass              Homebred                               
5 Pebble Beach(L)        $85,000                                     
6 Ario Hanover             $45,000                             
 7 Night Hawk(L)           $35,000                           
 8 Kolby Two Step          $12,000                         
 9 Frozen Hanover         $325,000                               
 10 Mad Max Hanover      $50,000                   
Pebble Beach was the first of ten Seasides my trainer and I had on our list down in Lex. two years ago. He had good conformation , but was a bit small with a hernia. If he had gone a little less we probably would have got him. You never know how good a horse is going to be based on size. I looked last year and seven of the ten on our list  never made a penny as 2 yo. Picking yearlings is just one big scrap shoot.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: augustaandy on June 16, 2022, 08:28:13 PM
Pebble Beach right into the winners circle
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: LUCPARK on June 16, 2022, 10:36:03 PM
Pebble Beach right into the winners circle

I think so too

Open bridle. Doesn’t look around

Professional race horse

And very nice also

Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Superfecta on June 16, 2022, 11:16:23 PM
I think so too

Open bridle. Doesn’t look around

Professional race horse

And very nice also

Thanks Dave Little
Touting chalk.
I will bet against. I've seen your picks before.  ;D
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 17, 2022, 03:24:04 PM
He never loses,,,,,he told me
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Superfecta on June 17, 2022, 04:55:23 PM
He never loses,,,,,he told me

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3      tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 18, 2022, 10:52:44 PM
What a pathetic bunch that was.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: LUCPARK on June 18, 2022, 11:39:04 PM
What a pathetic bunch that was.

That was terrible racing

No flow nothin agreed
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Sweet Louis on June 18, 2022, 11:40:27 PM
Bernie you ain't shittin.....that was a weak batch of 3 yr olds for 1mill...if that's the best they have to offer it will be a boring year for 3 yr old pacers males
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: horses first on June 18, 2022, 11:42:56 PM
12 races down and all chalk. Yes a boring North American Cup. Maybe a spicy hi 5 payout in 13th?
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Harness racer on June 19, 2022, 07:08:17 AM
Bernie you ain't shittin.....that was a weak batch of 3 yr olds for 1mill...if that's the best they have to offer it will be a boring year for 3 yr old pacers males

Agreed, those weren't very good and the winner could've been 2 seconds better than the field if he needed to be.  That horse might make 2 million this year if he stays healthy.  And not because he's a world beater, the rest aren't very good.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: whiptherabbit on June 19, 2022, 07:21:50 AM
Super weak, 1:50 & most can’t keep up… majority of these were grass roots B colts in banner years…
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Open bridle on June 19, 2022, 08:10:20 AM
Pebble Beach is a good horse, but nothing close to a great horse. He's got the heart but not the size. I'm not sure if he could even win the Ohio sires stakes. Burkes seasides and gulf shores would give him a run for his money.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: LUCPARK on June 19, 2022, 08:22:31 AM
none of burkes can touch him

and open shores isnt in his league.

he beat him already ..

  peeble is  a nice horse..

dont know what david miller was thinking not leaving yesterday

maybe he was gonna out close them from almost last ngc3 ngc3

terrible fckin drive by miller racing for 1 million..

Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: whiptherabbit on June 19, 2022, 09:32:50 AM
It’s like the year Tell All won a bunch of big races, weak crop
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Laag on June 19, 2022, 09:58:45 AM
and the Gural rule going to hit him right in the face...Best 3 YO by far and he will not be racing at the Big M this year if ever...stupid
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Open bridle on June 19, 2022, 10:13:25 AM
none of burkes can touch him

and open shores isnt in his league.

he beat him already ..

  peeble is  a nice horse..

dont know what david miller was thinking not leaving yesterday

maybe he was gonna out close them from almost last ngc3 ngc3

terrible fckin drive by miller racing for 1 million..
Burkes seasides have both been in 1:50 on a 5/8 this year. He didn't look that invincible last year when he lost in Ky and a Ohio SS leg and the breeders crown to gulf shores and monti miki. He has proven at least to me he's the best of the bunch yet against that group.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: jupiter on June 19, 2022, 10:22:24 AM
they don't say beat a bunch of weak horses on the check.
won't remember at the end of the year.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: LUCPARK on June 19, 2022, 11:45:43 AM
and the Gural rule going to hit him right in the face...Best 3 YO by far and he will not be racing at the Big M this year if ever...stupid


gural got lucky with the sports book

or bigm wood be closed already

hes a dictator
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: wiseowl on June 19, 2022, 03:53:48 PM
When did time become a factor as long as you win that is the game.Give me any of them I would take it.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 19, 2022, 05:07:44 PM
Time was not the issue. These are dreadful horses and if you didn't notice, you are even dumber than I thought. That is damn near impossible.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: augustaandy on June 19, 2022, 11:44:29 PM
best so far this year, ez winner
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: wiseowl on June 20, 2022, 12:21:38 PM
The best 3 years olds did not race in the N.A. Cup you will see them  at the Meadowland for the pace you bunch of losing cry babies all ways moaning about something .
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: augustaandy on June 20, 2022, 01:36:56 PM
Gulf Shores vs. Pebble Beach in The Jug
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: LUCPARK on June 20, 2022, 02:58:51 PM
Gulf Shores vs. Pebble Beach in The Jug

shores on a half mile

easily
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Open bridle on June 20, 2022, 05:27:37 PM
Gulf Shores vs. Pebble Beach in The Jug
I think Burkes Bythemissal or Barry's berries can be in the mix. Both in 1:50 on a 5/8. Gulf Shores didn't look completely dominate his last start. Don't know who's the best in Indiana or out east.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Laag on June 20, 2022, 07:06:50 PM
What is going on with Hammering Hank?
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 20, 2022, 07:13:25 PM
I think he raced a couple of weeks ago in Pennsylvania and was second or third. I think.
Title: Re: NA Cup Starters
Post by: augustaandy on June 20, 2022, 10:07:43 PM
What is going on with Hammering Hank?


Hammering Hank and Gulf Shores both in the Messenger elims Friday night at The Hilltop!
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