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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Emperor Dapple on January 20, 2022, 07:59:11 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/01/19/seth-fishman-horse-racing-doping/
I gotta say the business always had a seedy reputation even 40 plus years ago when I was in it but the more I read about this doping scandal and it’s cast of characters it just makes me feel embarrassed to have ever been associated with it .. I really get why PETA does what it does now..
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Can this trial be watched via streaming?
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Textbook example of a sociopath !!!
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while blame goes to the states some its not all the race comissions fault. everyone is to blame. the states have allways just sat by and took any revenue from horse racing. most states did turn the other way on the chemists. so did tracks. the public was happy to bet the hot trainers. other people who owned and trained horses. everyone is to blame somewhat.
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Calling the USTA integrity hotline is a joke. The horseman can blame themselves for not policing their game. Easier to complain about who is juicing
and go race for fourth and fifth. Grow some balls and get rid of the scum....vigilante justice is better than no justice. Gural may appear self serving but many of the guys he bounced were not credits to the sport.
I love harness racing but am wondering where its going to be after the negative publicity it has generated for itself.
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Great article. This Fisman will go down hard. I like the Part where Gural will go to Oakes sentencing, I want to be there to spit on Oakes, I hope Gural does it for me
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Allard, Oakes, Fishman, Surick should all be administered mega doses of their magic elixirs and have a race and see who drops first.
Too bad the state commissions/racetracks cannot afford to do more extensive race detention. When I think back on Robinson, Coleman
and Burke their numbers out of detention didn't come close to their everyday race stats.
everyone likes to have an edge, its human nature, but when people go to the point of killing horses and joking about it, we have gone too far.
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The rumors I hear is that this Fishman guy laid low for a couple months and went right back in to business as usual. I have no way of knowing if this is true but the source always seems to have a finger on the people that are doping.
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" a lawyer who said he represented Dubai’s “Presidential Camel Department” sprung to action, arguing in U.S. court that the substances were tonics urgently needed while the beasts were in heat."
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You can F@ck with the horse's but don't F@ck with our Camels!
Gotta Love it!
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They have the head of the snake and his name is FISHMAN. Read the transcripts. This guy was involved with doping on a level that boggels the mind. Making tonics for camels because they are in heat??BS. Who would believe this?? An examination of these tonics would expose this lie--because he sold these same tonics here in USA.Assistant even admitted it. This should INCREASE this criminal to maximum sentencing. Why not examine his books and see who was buying these "tonics".? As a Veterinarian-he violated his code on many levels-and should have his licence torn up into small pieces.
Then we have him trying to help himself obtain a "get out of jail free" card from the Feds= by designing ways to catch "cheats"--the very same people this phony was selling to.
Sure-the people buying his shit were trying to get an edge--but its like dealing in heroin or cocaine-the users would not be using if there were no suppliers!!.
I hope they put him in jail for a very long time-and announce the fact that he is a "snitch" and a "turncoat"-and place him with some hard core crims.
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bond i totally disagree with you statement on drug dealers we,ve been doing it backwards for years and it doesnt work i say get rid of the users and the dealers will disappear its simple economics no market no product needed
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bond i totally disagree with you statement on drug dealers we,ve been doing it backwards for years and it doesnt work i say get rid of the users and the dealers will disappear its simple economics no market no product needed
WTF!! How do you think the users are getting product?? No product-no users. You see cops going gung ho on the drug addicts? They are mainly concerned with the suppliers. Now you have Fishman--major supplier-you get his books-his lists of clientelle-bingo-now you have the supplier AND the users. If Fishman was supplying illegal PE then both him and the users are caught. Scum removed.
Now imagine under the current system-- if a user gets caught with one of Fishmans illegal PE. The commission comes down hard on the user. What happens to Fishman?? Nothing thats what happens. So even though he is the biggest perpertrator of supplying PE's-he keeps on truckin.
No-you nail Fishman to the wall-to discourage anyone with the same gameplan-to give it up.
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lets all hope the courts make his client list public now that would be some interestng reading
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Ya can't make this shit up. This clown thinks he's gonna get off. Beasts (Camels) in heat, special tonics. He should act as his own lawyer, slam dunk conviction, just let him talk. He's the patron saint of the animals. Again, ya can't make this shit up
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When you rat to save your own ass these things have a way of getting out and when they do your ticket gets punched. Fishman being a key player the Feds will have all the associations which will lessen his time here. It doesn't matter what the crime was, rats get dealt with.
He already ratted in Brooks trial. He knows any jail time will be a death sentence. Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Let’s hope the Feds have a list of users
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Sport has always been super corrupt .....follow the money though
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Here is something that hasn't been mentioned and that is, if he was travelling to the Arab Emirates with product under the guise that it was for camels should any Shiek's name or that of their trainers are on Fishman's paper work or lists that the Feds seized then those names will come out and chances are in the future their horses will not be allowed to race in the US. Just in the last little while a few trainers in the Arab Emirates have had drug offences and I would suspect that their authorities have been working with the Feds.
Oh yeah, the Arabs are known for their trustworthiness ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Oh yeah, the Arabs are known for their trustworthiness ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Iceman reading too much Al-Jezeera.