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Title: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Meadows spy on November 23, 2021, 09:42:01 PM
Surick off to a good start
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: GeeMoney on November 23, 2021, 09:46:22 PM
gone get the 8th too  even with a drunk driver
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: makingit on November 23, 2021, 09:48:36 PM
I didn't see him listed. Which horse?
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: makingit on November 23, 2021, 09:52:37 PM
Surick owns her ?
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on November 23, 2021, 11:25:12 PM
its only cheating if you get caught ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: tumbleweed on November 24, 2021, 12:19:29 PM
He bought two online last week also.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Meadows spy on December 09, 2021, 02:27:50 PM
Another big night for Nicky boy last night at the pomp!! 73cv.2
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: southflorida on December 11, 2021, 01:37:51 AM
He must have sung real good as his name is nowhere with all the Oakes / Navarro and Servis sentencing stuff this week???
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 11, 2021, 12:49:10 PM
good people
big money

hot wife..

 tmbz1
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: jupiter on December 11, 2021, 04:36:49 PM
Heś a POS horse killer. There is no way he walks scott free. The PETA crazies will be looking for his hide. Plus he has to worry about all the people he thru under the bus, he sure didnt sing for the love of the sport. Heĺl be looking over his shoulder for a real long time
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: MR.DALRAE on December 11, 2021, 04:59:20 PM
If Nicky knelt down to look you in the eye he wouldn't know who the hell you are.

That's mean
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 11, 2021, 05:38:33 PM
If Nicky knelt down to look you in the eye he wouldn't know who the hell you are.
Pretty Skippy for an old dude, Ice age! tmbz1
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Nostrathomas on December 12, 2021, 02:55:25 PM
If Nicky knelt down to look you in the eye he wouldn't know who the hell you are.
Interesting. Kneeling down may indeed be in his future. But not looking in any eyes...
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 12, 2021, 05:01:34 PM
Surick needs to be banded for life
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: cigar on December 12, 2021, 05:36:50 PM
Old news
Time to move on
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: cigar on December 12, 2021, 11:03:49 PM
Time for you to join the real world.
All you do is complain about everything on here! Go get laid.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Carnival People on December 13, 2021, 12:32:57 AM
If Nick Surick is allowed to race again the horsemen should boycott the box.  Of course they will not do this because they love to get screwed.   I would estimate that that Surick owes horsemen at Freehold at least a million dollars.   
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: NJ The best on December 15, 2021, 09:41:08 AM
His wife was looking smoking hot with her friends and a few guys at Bar A the other night. Loafers not in sight.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 15, 2021, 10:43:08 AM
Doubt it. She don’t leave his side. I saw his Facebook story over the weekend, they were together Saturday at some casino and Sunday at a basketball game. 
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 15, 2021, 10:49:36 AM
he was in atlantic gambling

dancing and having fun

hes knot going to jail

prob gonna be training some where in midwest soon..
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 15, 2021, 11:16:07 AM
All you do is complain about everything on here! Go get laid.

hes a fuckin idiot
GENO

why pay attention to some
DEPENDS wearing old fuck
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: cigar on December 15, 2021, 12:13:22 PM
hes a fuckin idiot
GENO

why pay attention to some
DEPENDS wearing old fuck
I got nothing against the guy, but a typical I failed so the sport must be the problem type of person. Iceman just walk away, you either failed or it just didn’t work out for some reason. Gotta respect the people that just walk away and say fuck it I gave it a shot. You keep pounding the shit into the ground everyday! It’s a tough game and everything that goes with it, not everyone comes out on top some try and some keep trying you obviously gave up so walk away you ain’t changing shit.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Calhoun on December 15, 2021, 12:46:52 PM
he was in atlantic gambling

dancing and having fun

hes knot going to jail

prob gonna be training some where in midwest soon..
dancing

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: NJ The best on December 16, 2021, 10:14:40 AM
shes definitely got a banging body no doubt.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: London on December 17, 2021, 05:49:30 PM
Did anyone get an email from this dufoos saying he has pics??
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: dukeman on December 17, 2021, 06:47:41 PM
He won the F&M Open at Pompano tonight!  Congrats!  tmbz1

ABUELITA HANOVER WAS PURCHASED BY STALBAUM FOR 45K
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: dukeman on December 17, 2021, 07:32:57 PM
RIGHT, AND I"M TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER MARE IN THE RACE
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 19, 2021, 01:44:18 PM
Navarro got the max, who’s up next ?
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: jupiter on December 20, 2021, 01:36:23 PM
Anybody thinks he'll be training legally again is nuts, who is going to license him. That could be the fatal blow to our business. PETA, HISA all the bad PR already. Casinos will try to cut bait they don't need bad PR
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 20, 2021, 01:47:35 PM
THE GOVERNMENT IS SLOW WALKING THIS

WHY KNOT JUST RESOLVE CASES ADN GET IT OVER WITH

..

SLOW WALKING PROVES WEAK CASES?

BREAKING PEOPLE WITH THEIR LIFE SAVINGS

IS CARELESS..

JAIL THEM OR NOT

JUST CLOSE THE CASES..
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 23, 2021, 07:11:05 AM
THE GOVERNMENT IS SLOW WALKING THIS

WHY KNOT JUST RESOLVE CASES ADN GET IT OVER WITH

..

SLOW WALKING PROVES WEAK CASES?

BREAKING PEOPLE WITH THEIR LIFE SAVINGS

IS CARELESS..

JAIL THEM OR NOT

JUST CLOSE THE CASES..

The delay in bringing this Mutt's case to a close is most likely because he is not done testifying. The Feds keep you around for as long as you are useful to them.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 23, 2021, 08:36:34 AM
It all depends how much the Feds value his commitment to rat and testify. As well as how many cases they close with his cooperation.
 His pattern of behavior tells me he may never see a day at Club Fed. More likely he will get sentenced to serve less then a year at a halfway house. Or what the PC Feds now refer to as a Community Reintroduction Center. 
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 23, 2021, 08:48:06 AM
So, the plot on Nicky the Rat thickens. An indicted Vet. from NJ, rats the rat and gets a deal.
 https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/new-jersey-veterinarian-gets-deferred-prosecution-deal-in-federal-doping-case/
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: augustaandy on December 23, 2021, 11:52:04 AM
still don't know who is co-operating
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 23, 2021, 12:01:07 PM
So, the plot on Nicky the Rat thickens. An indicted Vet. from NJ, rats the rat and gets a deal.
 https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/new-jersey-veterinarian-gets-deferred-prosecution-deal-in-federal-doping-case/

She wouldn’t be sentenced if cooperating. All cooperators get sentenced last. Who ever stays under seal the longest has the most info valuable.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 23, 2021, 12:26:47 PM
And you know this how?
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 23, 2021, 12:33:46 PM
This has to be a first. The mumbling midget was speechless ngc3


He won’t do a day in jail

He’s the biggest singer

Are you thst fvkin stupid
You fckin ass clown tmbz1
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 23, 2021, 12:47:05 PM
I don't think Surick gets more than him.  I think it will very comparable, if not the same.  You have tapes of Surick admitting conspiracy and a vet that told of all her dealing with Surick.  IMO, if anyone thinks he is getting off with no jail time, you're crazy.

wont do a day

book IT DANNO
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 23, 2021, 12:59:04 PM
How much do you want to bet on this ass clown.


Can’t take your DEPENDS
money

 ngc3 ngc3

Your old and broke

Get back to crapping on yourself  ngc3
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Locked and loaded up on December 23, 2021, 01:35:48 PM
Another one sentenced yesterday Surick’s vet Rebecca Linke slap on the wrist still gets to be a vet can’t work on racehorses for 2 years.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 23, 2021, 01:38:35 PM
I tend to agree with Iceman on this one.  I think he does some time.  Seems to all be centering around him and Jorge.

Disagree. You do not see Surricks name anywhere in headlines anymore.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 23, 2021, 01:51:11 PM
Sealed...and the vet just got off after telling what she knows about his operation.

Wrong. Counselor will chime in soon and let you know how legal system works.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Fatboy on December 23, 2021, 02:30:55 PM
How much do you want to bet on this ass clown.

 ngc3
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Calhoun on December 23, 2021, 02:43:58 PM
Let's just say I've seen first hand how the Feds operate with my Father and my Godfather both deceased.
No you have not.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Calhoun on December 23, 2021, 02:51:40 PM
Little do you know ass clown. What did the Mumbling Midget do, emailed you get you to fight back for him. Your both ass clowns.
A week ago, you told us Solly D, a 95 yrar old cripple, was running the mob in Chicago.

Shut the fuck up and eat your jello, old man.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: LUCPARK on December 23, 2021, 03:07:47 PM
A week ago, you told us Solly D, a 95 yrar old cripple, was running the mob in Chicago.

Shut the fuck up and eat your jello, old man.

thk god hes father and godfather are dead or else ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 23, 2021, 04:03:29 PM
None of these rat bastards have the stones to clam up and do the time. Oaks took a plea deal for 1 year. The Vet who took a plea the other day, did so to avoid incarceration.
 She must also sing her song anytime the Fed's call on her. Same deal for that tough guy, Oaks. He needs to testify for the Feds when demand.
 Trust me, Oaks will be "on a writ" many times when others go to trial.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 23, 2021, 09:00:55 PM
It would be a shame if they all don’t do time
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: PIGLAND on December 23, 2021, 09:30:46 PM
some of the will prolly still make the hall of fame,so sad our sport
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: PIGLAND on December 24, 2021, 06:39:55 AM
well sad
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Wendall Tilley on December 24, 2021, 08:19:54 AM
All of them are mostly back in business with beards.Just look at the usta results debbie keith etc.What a joke.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Foalin at 4 on December 24, 2021, 09:15:26 AM
I don't think Surick gets more than him.  I think it will very comparable, if not the same.  You have tapes of Surick admitting conspiracy and a vet that told of all her dealing with Surick.  IMO, if anyone thinks he is getting off with no jail time, you're crazy.
    Nick is going in the breeding business, he bought a share of American Ideal from Michelle Crawfords fire sale on Ongait a couple days ago! 
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 24, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
    Nick is going in the breeding business, he bought a share of American Ideal from Michelle Crawfords fire sale on Ongait a couple days ago!

He has always been in the breeding business.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: jupiter on December 24, 2021, 11:54:48 AM
He´s going to be in the breeding business when he gets in the shower at club fed
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Third Over on December 24, 2021, 01:46:53 PM
Nicky boy singing like Luciano Pavarotti,they Feds have never had it so good since Sammy "the bull" gave everybody up..in the end though,you're marked for life. Fact !!!
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Superfecta on December 24, 2021, 05:47:05 PM
PIGLAND yes you might be right but how could you with a clean conscience pump the shit into these horses that they did. These horses like all animals are living breathing beings. I have always said the line in the sand is those that have and those that don't and either way you don't have the right to destroy a living breathing life, for profit, for ego, for whatever.

Millions of people are sacrificed as well. Mostly for profit.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Lotsofpace on December 24, 2021, 09:09:39 PM
He´s going to be in the breeding business when he gets in the shower at club fed
  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Black stallion part 5. Staring Nicky sandals
 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: COUNSELOR on December 24, 2021, 11:31:50 PM
A SEALED INDICTMENT IS JUST THAT---SEALED.   IT CAN REMAIN SEALED INDEFINITELY BUT USUALLY THE TERM IS SIX YEARS OR LESS.   THE PURPOSE OF A SEALED INDICTMENT IS TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT WITNESS FROM REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL AS TO KEEP THE FULL INDICTMENT A SECRET FROM THOSE THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.  THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT MANY WOULD FLEE THE COUNTRY TO SAFE HAVENS IF THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT HAD AGAINST THEM.  FURTHER, MANY WHO ARE STILL COMMITTING CRIMES WOULD STOP IF THEY WERE AWARE THEY WERE NAMED OR NOTICED BY THE FEDERAL INDICTMENT.   ADDITIONALLY, USUALLY THE SEALED INDICTMENTS ARE NOT OPENED UNTIL THE COMPLETE CASE HAS BEEN PLED OR TRIED.   THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE WHAT WITNESSES TRULY HELPED THE PROSECUTORS AND WHO DID NOT.   FURTHER, THE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY UNWIND AS THE TRIAL PROCEEDS.   THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES IN THIS CASE THAT IT MAY BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THESE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE SENT TO PRISION--THE FIRST THING THAT FELLOW INMATES WANT TO SEE IS YOUR PAPERS.   YES, THE CRIMINAL INDICTMENT---CHARGES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IF YOU WERE A GOVERNMENT WITNESS.   IF ANY OF THESE FOLKS DID IN FACT COOPERATE AND SANG TUNES ---THE INMATE POPULATION WILL NOT TAKE KINDLY TO THIS AND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT ON THE INDIVIDUAL DURING HIS TENURE.   TO BE A "RAT" IN THE PRISON SYSTEM IS A TRUE EMERGENCY FOR THOSE WHO ARE BRANDED 'RAT."

FURTHER,THE INVOLVED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE BEARDS AND CONTINUE TO RACE.   THIS IS THE KISS OF DEATH TO A CAREER.   THE CAREERS AS THIS FOLKS KNOW IT IS OVER.   EVEN IF NOT SENTENCED TO PRISON THESE FOLKS WILL GET A STIFF HOME CONFINEMENT AND THE RULES OF PROBATION ARE VERY DIFFICULT.   THIS IS NOT A WALK IN THE PARK FOR ANYONE. 

THE INDICTMENTS HAVE BEEN SEALED---THOSE THAT ARE WITNESSES WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO BE SENTENCED OR FOR ALL CHARGES TO BE DROPPED----DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT THEY WERE IN THE CONVICTIONS.   WHEN THE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED MANY MORE WILL BE EXPOSED.   

IT WOULD BE INSANE FOR ANY OF THESE FOLKS TO EVER RACE AGAIN ---TRAIN AGAIN.   THE STATES WILL NOT EMBARASS THEIRSELVES REGARDING THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.   FURTHER, THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL CHARGES SO FAR.   PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE STATE CAN PURSUE CHARGE AS WELL.   THAT IS VERY UNIQUES BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: smokingjoe on December 25, 2021, 08:51:03 AM
PETA is well aware of the accusations against Surick and are actively awaiting end to the Federal side of things before any State charges of Animal Cruelty can be brought.

Trust me, many individuals want to see justice for the horses killed.

And his biggest fear should be what unknown will come from behind his back.

Karma is the ultimate justice.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: old guy on December 25, 2021, 09:33:22 AM
Yes they paid dearly and I can't seem to understand with all of this and that lives matter, what about these horses they matter. But as we have seen in racing nothing ever changes and I wouldn't be surprised if these same criminals are back in the game other than Navarro to do it all again.
A SEALED INDICTMENT IS JUST THAT---SEALED.   IT CAN REMAIN SEALED INDEFINITELY BUT USUALLY THE TERM IS SIX YEARS OR LESS.   THE PURPOSE OF A SEALED INDICTMENT IS TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT WITNESS FROM REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL AS TO KEEP THE FULL INDICTMENT A SECRET FROM THOSE THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.  THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT MANY WOULD FLEE THE COUNTRY TO SAFE HAVENS IF THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT HAD AGAINST THEM.  FURTHER, MANY WHO ARE STILL COMMITTING CRIMES WOULD STOP IF THEY WERE AWARE THEY WERE NAMED OR NOTICED BY THE FEDERAL INDICTMENT.   ADDITIONALLY, USUALLY THE SEALED INDICTMENTS ARE NOT OPENED UNTIL THE COMPLETE CASE HAS BEEN PLED OR TRIED.   THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE WHAT WITNESSES TRULY HELPED THE PROSECUTORS AND WHO DID NOT.   FURTHER, THE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY UNWIND AS THE TRIAL PROCEEDS.   THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES IN THIS CASE THAT IT MAY BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THESE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE SENT TO PRISION--THE FIRST THING THAT FELLOW INMATES WANT TO SEE IS YOUR PAPERS.   YES, THE CRIMINAL INDICTMENT---CHARGES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IF YOU WERE A GOVERNMENT WITNESS.   IF ANY OF THESE FOLKS DID IN FACT COOPERATE AND SANG TUNES ---THE INMATE POPULATION WILL NOT TAKE KINDLY TO THIS AND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT ON THE INDIVIDUAL DURING HIS TENURE.   TO BE A "RAT" IN THE PRISON SYSTEM IS A TRUE EMERGENCY FOR THOSE WHO ARE BRANDED 'RAT."

FURTHER,THE INVOLVED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE BEARDS AND CONTINUE TO RACE.   THIS IS THE KISS OF DEATH TO A CAREER.   THE CAREERS AS THIS FOLKS KNOW IT IS OVER.   EVEN IF NOT SENTENCED TO PRISON THESE FOLKS WILL GET A STIFF HOME CONFINEMENT AND THE RULES OF PROBATION ARE VERY DIFFICULT.   THIS IS NOT A WALK IN THE PARK FOR ANYONE. 

THE INDICTMENTS HAVE BEEN SEALED---THOSE THAT ARE WITNESSES WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO BE SENTENCED OR FOR ALL CHARGES TO BE DROPPED----DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT THEY WERE IN THE CONVICTIONS.   WHEN THE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED MANY MORE WILL BE EXPOSED.   

IT WOULD BE INSANE FOR ANY OF THESE FOLKS TO EVER RACE AGAIN ---TRAIN AGAIN.   THE STATES WILL NOT EMBARASS THEIRSELVES REGARDING THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.   FURTHER, THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL CHARGES SO FAR.   PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE STATE CAN PURSUE CHARGE AS WELL.   THAT IS VERY UNIQUES BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

The States have done a poor job of policing the beard situation.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 25, 2021, 10:25:19 AM
PETA is well aware of the accusations against Surick and are actively awaiting end to the Federal side of things before any State charges of Animal Cruelty can be brought.

Trust me, many individuals want to see justice for the horses killed.

And his biggest fear should be what unknown will come from behind his back.

Karma is the ultimate justice.


Peta knows nothing. Already a known fact, there was never any dead horses. After extensive interviews of all employees that were current, past, and all other associated with Surrick, stories matched up long and far that no horses were ever killed. All horses trained at one time by Surrick were verified sold, homed, claimed, still owner, ect, none were missing. My friend Kim worked for him, everyone was interviewed.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 25, 2021, 10:27:18 AM
A SEALED INDICTMENT IS JUST THAT---SEALED.   IT CAN REMAIN SEALED INDEFINITELY BUT USUALLY THE TERM IS SIX YEARS OR LESS.   THE PURPOSE OF A SEALED INDICTMENT IS TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT WITNESS FROM REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL AS TO KEEP THE FULL INDICTMENT A SECRET FROM THOSE THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.  THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT MANY WOULD FLEE THE COUNTRY TO SAFE HAVENS IF THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT HAD AGAINST THEM.  FURTHER, MANY WHO ARE STILL COMMITTING CRIMES WOULD STOP IF THEY WERE AWARE THEY WERE NAMED OR NOTICED BY THE FEDERAL INDICTMENT.   ADDITIONALLY, USUALLY THE SEALED INDICTMENTS ARE NOT OPENED UNTIL THE COMPLETE CASE HAS BEEN PLED OR TRIED.   THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE WHAT WITNESSES TRULY HELPED THE PROSECUTORS AND WHO DID NOT.   FURTHER, THE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY UNWIND AS THE TRIAL PROCEEDS.   THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES IN THIS CASE THAT IT MAY BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THESE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE SENT TO PRISION--THE FIRST THING THAT FELLOW INMATES WANT TO SEE IS YOUR PAPERS.   YES, THE CRIMINAL INDICTMENT---CHARGES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IF YOU WERE A GOVERNMENT WITNESS.   IF ANY OF THESE FOLKS DID IN FACT COOPERATE AND SANG TUNES ---THE INMATE POPULATION WILL NOT TAKE KINDLY TO THIS AND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT ON THE INDIVIDUAL DURING HIS TENURE.   TO BE A "RAT" IN THE PRISON SYSTEM IS A TRUE EMERGENCY FOR THOSE WHO ARE BRANDED 'RAT."

FURTHER,THE INVOLVED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE BEARDS AND CONTINUE TO RACE.   THIS IS THE KISS OF DEATH TO A CAREER.   THE CAREERS AS THIS FOLKS KNOW IT IS OVER.   EVEN IF NOT SENTENCED TO PRISON THESE FOLKS WILL GET A STIFF HOME CONFINEMENT AND THE RULES OF PROBATION ARE VERY DIFFICULT.   THIS IS NOT A WALK IN THE PARK FOR ANYONE. 

THE INDICTMENTS HAVE BEEN SEALED---THOSE THAT ARE WITNESSES WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO BE SENTENCED OR FOR ALL CHARGES TO BE DROPPED----DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT THEY WERE IN THE CONVICTIONS.   WHEN THE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED MANY MORE WILL BE EXPOSED.   

IT WOULD BE INSANE FOR ANY OF THESE FOLKS TO EVER RACE AGAIN ---TRAIN AGAIN.   THE STATES WILL NOT EMBARASS THEIRSELVES REGARDING THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.   FURTHER, THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL CHARGES SO FAR.   PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE STATE CAN PURSUE CHARGE AS WELL.   THAT IS VERY UNIQUES BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

Already known that the vet can STILL practice today, just not on race horses for 2 years then she can go back to racing. Basically a 2 year suspension from race horses only.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Pacingqueen on December 25, 2021, 09:25:31 PM
Pacingqueen you know shit but you talk a lot just like a Chatty Kathy doll, somebody needs to cut you're cord.

CHATTY FACTS. You could not find one untrue thing I have ever spoke. Facts are facts.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: 2beblunt on December 26, 2021, 01:08:43 AM
A SEALED INDICTMENT IS JUST THAT---SEALED.   IT CAN REMAIN SEALED INDEFINITELY BUT USUALLY THE TERM IS SIX YEARS OR LESS.   THE PURPOSE OF A SEALED INDICTMENT IS TO PROTECT THE GOVERNMENT WITNESS FROM REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL AS TO KEEP THE FULL INDICTMENT A SECRET FROM THOSE THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.  THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT MANY WOULD FLEE THE COUNTRY TO SAFE HAVENS IF THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT HAD AGAINST THEM.  FURTHER, MANY WHO ARE STILL COMMITTING CRIMES WOULD STOP IF THEY WERE AWARE THEY WERE NAMED OR NOTICED BY THE FEDERAL INDICTMENT.   ADDITIONALLY, USUALLY THE SEALED INDICTMENTS ARE NOT OPENED UNTIL THE COMPLETE CASE HAS BEEN PLED OR TRIED.   THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE WHAT WITNESSES TRULY HELPED THE PROSECUTORS AND WHO DID NOT.   FURTHER, THE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY UNWIND AS THE TRIAL PROCEEDS.   THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES IN THIS CASE THAT IT MAY BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THESE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE SENT TO PRISION--THE FIRST THING THAT FELLOW INMATES WANT TO SEE IS YOUR PAPERS.   YES, THE CRIMINAL INDICTMENT---CHARGES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IF YOU WERE A GOVERNMENT WITNESS.   IF ANY OF THESE FOLKS DID IN FACT COOPERATE AND SANG TUNES ---THE INMATE POPULATION WILL NOT TAKE KINDLY TO THIS AND IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT ON THE INDIVIDUAL DURING HIS TENURE.   TO BE A "RAT" IN THE PRISON SYSTEM IS A TRUE EMERGENCY FOR THOSE WHO ARE BRANDED 'RAT."

FURTHER,THE INVOLVED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE BEARDS AND CONTINUE TO RACE.   THIS IS THE KISS OF DEATH TO A CAREER.   THE CAREERS AS THIS FOLKS KNOW IT IS OVER.   EVEN IF NOT SENTENCED TO PRISON THESE FOLKS WILL GET A STIFF HOME CONFINEMENT AND THE RULES OF PROBATION ARE VERY DIFFICULT.   THIS IS NOT A WALK IN THE PARK FOR ANYONE. 

THE INDICTMENTS HAVE BEEN SEALED---THOSE THAT ARE WITNESSES WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO BE SENTENCED OR FOR ALL CHARGES TO BE DROPPED----DEPENDING ON HOW IMPORTANT THEY WERE IN THE CONVICTIONS.   WHEN THE INDICTMENTS ARE OPENED MANY MORE WILL BE EXPOSED.   

IT WOULD BE INSANE FOR ANY OF THESE FOLKS TO EVER RACE AGAIN ---TRAIN AGAIN.   THE STATES WILL NOT EMBARASS THEIRSELVES REGARDING THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.   FURTHER, THESE ARE ALL FEDERAL CHARGES SO FAR.   PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE STATE CAN PURSUE CHARGE AS WELL.   THAT IS VERY UNIQUES BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

Correct. As soon as you walk into prison and get assisgned to a unit someone will ask to see your paperwork. The paperwork will show a 5k departure which is a reduction in sentence for either cooperating or illness. Once someone sees this on your paperwork you will not be allowed in that unit. Most likely you will be thrown in a cell and have the shit beat out of you as the CO turns his head. The person that gives the beting is usually same color as the rate or same ethnic background. they will have a lockdown. The rat will be taken out of general population, and the guy who gave him the beating will go to the "hole" or SHU- Segregated Housing Unit
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 26, 2021, 06:36:01 AM
What movie is that from?
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 26, 2021, 07:09:55 AM
Anyone convicted of the crimes in these cases would be classified to a camp or low security facility. Most of the inmates at these places are of the same cloth, rats or guys with long bids who have behaved well and earned the camp in their last years of incrassation.
 Yes, everyone will know your deal before you arrive as, inmate population work in intake .
 These places don't have cells. They are dormitory settings. Yes, Chris Oaks will be labeled a rat and shunned by most. But, remember, all these guys are criminals and they love a story like his; doping horses and cashing tickets.
 So no, there will be no beatdowns, no blanket parties... But there may be that angry gambler looking for revenge in the shower.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: 2beblunt on December 26, 2021, 08:43:08 PM
Anyone convicted of the crimes in these cases would be classified to a camp or low security facility. Most of the inmates at these places are of the same cloth, rats or guys with long bids who have behaved well and earned the camp in their last years of incrassation.
 Yes, everyone will know your deal before you arrive as, inmate population work in intake .
 These places don't have cells. They are dormitory settings. Yes, Chris Oaks will be labeled a rat and shunned by most. But, remember, all these guys are criminals and they love a story like his; doping horses and cashing tickets.
 So no, there will be no beatdowns, no blanket parties... But there may be that angry gambler looking for revenge in the shower.

It all depends where they put you based on your crime. It goes probation,house arrest,camp,low,medium,high, pen
However, even though this is his first offense, and not a bad one, they also factor in the money factor. How much he robbed. The higher the amount the more serious placement could begin. So, he could be at a camp or a low like Ft Dix but he could go to a medium which does not have the dormatory setting.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: The Exporter on December 27, 2021, 07:59:20 AM
That pretty much sums up what I said. Navarro will probably need to go behind a wall, due to his flight risk. The others anywhere from halfway house to a camp or level 1.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: Calhoun on December 27, 2021, 10:04:22 AM
Lots of good infotmation on this thread.  tmbz1

Most horsemen can't train a rat to eat cheese.

However, y'all dripping legit knowledge of the criminal justice system.

Except Liceman.  That guy don't know shit about nothing.  Except Jello.  He know Jello.



Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: 2beblunt on December 27, 2021, 09:27:40 PM
Lots of good infotmation on this thread.  tmbz1

Most horsemen can't train a rat to eat cheese.

However, y'all dripping legit knowledge of the criminal justice system.

Except Liceman.  That guy don't know shit about nothing.  Except Jello.  He know Jello.
It helps to be a convicted felon lol
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: COUNSELOR on December 29, 2021, 10:00:17 PM
PLEASE RECALL THAT NO ONE INVOLVED IN THE CASE CAN BE HOUSED AT THE SAME FACILITY.   SO IF THESE FOLKS ARE ALL FROM ERSEY OR NEW YORK OR PA.---THEY CANNOT GO TO THE SAME FACILITY.  FURTHER, A JUDGE WILL RECOMMEND TO PLACE THESE FOLKS AT A FACILITY CLOSEST TO THEIR FAMILIES AND IT NOW MUST BE WITHIN 500 MILES OF THEIR HOME AS REQUIRED BY THE FIRST STEP ACT THAT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW ON DECEMBER 30, 2018.   

IN FACT THIS LAW MAY IN FACT SAVE SOME OF THESE FOLKS JAIL TIME IF THIS IS THEIR FIRST CONVICTION.   IT ALSO STATES VERY CLEARLY THAT LOW AND CAMPERS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR HOME CONFINEMENT.  THE ISSUE SO FAR WITH THE FIRST STEP ACT AS IT HAS BE SLOW TO BE IMPLEMENTED DUE TO THE COVID ISSUES.

TIME WILL TELL.
Title: Re: NICK SURICK THREAD
Post by: NJ The best on January 06, 2022, 03:32:21 PM
Rick Pantano set up sandals with the landscaping and paver business  . Nicks woman just got augmented again and looks super . How the hell he hangs on to her will be a miracle.
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