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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on October 12, 2021, 01:09:25 PM
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NICKY LOAFERS NOT DONE RATTING YET
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NICKY LOAFERS NOT DONE RATTING YET
hes in maui for a month
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IF THIS FELLA WAS IN FACT UNDER A CURRENT INDICTMENT HE WOULD NOT BE IN MAUI FOR A MONTH. THEREFORE, IT IS MOST LIKELY THAT HE IS NOT CURRENTLY UNDER AN INDICTMENT. PRE-TRIAL WOULD NOT CONSIDER A MONTH VACATION FOR ANYONE.
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Oakes changed his plea to guilty.
Counselor is correct Pre Trial will not let you go away. Maybe you can get a weekend, but definitely tri-state conditions.
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looks like he made a plea deal,,
..nobody changes pleas unless deal has been agreed to..
im guessing 2 yrs jail max no priors and
10 yr probation,,
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looks like he made a plea deal,,
..nobody changes pleas unless deal has been agreed to..
im guessing 2 yrs jail max no priors and
10 yr probation,,
AND MUST USE BEARD OR LIFETIME BAND
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6 months, at most.
He wasn't killing babies.
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6 months, at most.
He wasn't killing babies.
Ties to gambling makes this problematic, at most.
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None of them will receive jail time. Mark my word!!!!
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None of them will receive jail time. Mark my word!!!!
suspended sentences likely
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None of them will receive jail time. Mark my word!!!!
You mean including the ones that already have?
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hes in maui for a month
According to you he has been traveling the world since day 1. I’m thinking he is lying to you. How is his grass cutting business going?
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You mean including the ones that already have?
How has been in jail?
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I hope Oakes gets years in prison, he’s a no good cheating mother fucker. When my horses raced at Pocono it seemed like he beat us every time, most likely gassed to the ass.
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harwood taylor is no match for the feds
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harwood taylor is no match for the feds
HT IS NOT IN GREAT HEALTH THESE DAYS
LET HIM BE ..
HES A GOOD GUY
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According to you he has been traveling the world since day 1. I’m thinking he is lying to you. How is his grass cutting business going?
A few people said he was just in Lexington selling some of his homebreds. Kentucky to Maui maybe?
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Oakes was acting and talking pretty tough when this started, think he's calmed down now, after he learned he was going to LOSE. His partner Jorge figured it out first Chris was soon to follow after Jorge admitted to the crime. His buddy turned on him.
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Does anyone have Oakes phone number, I’d like to wish him well.
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https://harnesslink.com/usa/chris-oakes-expected-to-plead-guilty-oct-20/?fbclid=IwAR0-cIAsEx7wnaCIUi8mNJpOkDCniP2FXYWgRvoJ4BQtkAyeL8bo2sQMVfs
regarding Oakes
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dominos starting to fall
lets see who follows
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sounds like jealousy and sour grapes towards mr. oakes! I have not heard any of his former owners wililling to return any money. He made a lot people money, just ask george nap,cry baby bitch. As for gamblers, cashed multiple times on his horse's...devil child child at yonkers, mchenry at pocono $40 plus, and the best world champion homocide hunter for double digits multiple times, and even on the kid when nobody thought he could! If anything chris oakes is guilty of being a very good horseman, and having an extreme desire to win, he did nothing that 99% of people in the business "didn't or haven't done or would do". Was there any positive tests? how many world records did his horses set. I could go on but not the point, The point is picking and choosing, bow down or tell them to kiss your ass, rebels have always suffered,that is their plight. I've rambled long enough, I have your back chris, and in the words of G. Gordon Liddy 'tell me the corner I will be there". Fear the beard fear the blade, thunderdome!!!
You are a nitwit, he’s pleading guilty because he’s fucking guilty. I hope you are next.
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I hope Oakes gets years in prison, he’s a no good cheating mother fucker. When my horses raced at Pocono it seemed like he beat us every time, most likely gassed to the ass.
Maybe try training them better or buy better "gas"!
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You are a nitwit, he’s pleading guilty because he’s fucking guilty. I hope you are next.
He’s pleading guilty cus his lawyer told him that’s his best option at this point
Can’t beat the feds they got all the time and all the money and resources
He did not plead guilty cus he’s a Christian or a good guy
Just saying
He took his lawyer’s advice
Nothin else. Nothin more
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if he is not careful he wont be telling anyone to kiss his ass
others will be telling him to bend over
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sounds like jealousy and sour grapes towards mr. oakes! I have not heard any of his former owners wililling to return any money. He made a lot people money, just ask george nap,cry baby bitch. As for gamblers, cashed multiple times on his horse's...devil child child at yonkers, mchenry at pocono $40 plus, and the best world champion homocide hunter for double digits multiple times, and even on the kid when nobody thought he could! If anything chris oakes is guilty of being a very good horseman, and having an extreme desire to win, he did nothing that 99% of people in the business "didn't or haven't done or would do". Was there any positive tests? how many world records did his horses set. I could go on but not the point, The point is picking and choosing, bow down or tell them to kiss your ass, rebels have always suffered,that is their plight. I've rambled long enough, I have your back chris, and in the words of G. Gordon Liddy 'tell me the corner I will be there". Fear the beard fear the blade, thunderdome!!!
"Was (were) there any positive tests?"
His fines and suspensions report on Pathway, reads like a Dostoevsky novel. So, there's that...
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Allard will soon be deported after guilty verdict.
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This has been a slam dunk since it started, remember every body saying they'll get off, got great lawyers. YOU DON'T beat the feds. Dominos falling one by one. Jorge is singing just like the rat, the rat was the first to fall. Get back to mowing lawns and stay away from horses HORSE KILLing POS
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sounds like jealousy and sour grapes towards mr. oakes! I have not heard any of his former owners wililling to return any money. He made a lot people money, just ask george nap,cry baby bitch. As for gamblers, cashed multiple times on his horse's...devil child child at yonkers, mchenry at pocono $40 plus, and the best world champion homocide hunter for double digits multiple times, and even on the kid when nobody thought he could! If anything chris oakes is guilty of being a very good horseman, and having an extreme desire to win, he did nothing that 99% of people in the business "didn't or haven't done or would do". Was there any positive tests? how many world records did his horses set. I could go on but not the point, The point is picking and choosing, bow down or tell them to kiss your ass, rebels have always suffered,that is their plight. I've rambled long enough, I have your back chris, and in the words of G. Gordon Liddy 'tell me the corner I will be there". Fear the beard fear the blade, thunderdome!!!
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he would hang in the inside bar getting drunk buying drinks for his phony friends
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Allard will soon be deported after guilty verdict.
Take his pedophile brother with him.
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tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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oaks plead guilty
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Glad he found the time to plead guilty, what with his busy racing schedule at Pocono and all...
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Glad he found the time to plead guilty, what with his busy racing schedule at Pocono and all...
pocono and all the pa tracks are a fuckin joke
nobody cares to enforce any rules...
they havent gotten any of my wagering money in many yrs,,
truly unwatchable race tracks
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If there is some merit and solid convictions here, maybe then harness racing should take a look at ALL the FAKE people posing as judges. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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If there is some merit and solid convictions here, maybe then harness racing should take a look at ALL the FAKE people posing as judges. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Good point and the fake people posing as USTA directors to further their training businesses
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More importantly, who is one of the biggest detractors from HISA, the "USELESS"TWATTING"ASS"OCIATION 11.wp 11.wp
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Is Hunter Oakes related to Chris Oakes...noticed alot of his horse scratched DHD (did not honor declaration)
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Sorry Ross, but Chris got ya, but did you get him first. Or was it Sandles who made a deal first or was it Jorge made the first deal. Its a house of cards falling faster and faster. Hunters his son, like father like son
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chris oakes guilty admission was very telling
no trying to dance around it or give some bullshit excuse that a groom pissed in the stall etc
he knew he was fucked
lets see who is next
there is a difference between an allowable medication being slightly over the limit after a post race test and what these cheats were doing
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chris oakes guilty admission was very telling
no trying to dance around it or give some bullshit excuse that a groom pissed in the stall etc
he knew he was fucked
lets see who is next
there is a difference between an allowable medication being slightly over the limit after a post race test and what these cheats were doing
Harrness racing will never be trusted by new fans.
Ever
The fuckin guy just admitted to cheating for unfair advantage
That’s fckin stealing
Where is THE IRS.
DID HE PAY TAXES. ON ILLEGAL GOTTEN MONEY
THE TIME HAS ALSO COME TO GET IRS INVOLVED
EVERY ONE WHO PLEADS SHOULD HAVE AN IRS AUDIT
WHERES THE FUCKIN. TAX RETURNS.
Where is the advantage for the honest gamblers who trusted the tracks
To do proper cks
Where’s the advantage to honest owners and trainers who did not cheat to steal money from race tracks
3 Fuckin yrs max is a fuckin joke
Harness has become a fuckin joke
Harness should ban family members also of those convicted
From any track
But that won’t happen
Usta. Is basically FULL OF SHIT
HOPEFULLY GURAL WILL BAN FAMILY MEMBERS ALSO
FROM RACING AT BIGM
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remember Oakes trained Homicide Hunter and Split the House for the Crawfords
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Exactly what I've been saying all along start throwing the owners in jail for being knowingly involved. Crawford's knew dammed well what Oakes was doing and payed for it in their training bill.
This is just dumb. I once had a trainer who got a positive. How is that my responsibility, unless I sold him something illegal?
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i think alot more need to be caught and jailed
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i think alot more need to be caught and jailed
tmbz1 The Mastermind behind all this shit seems to be Fishman the Vet--if Oakes gets 3 years--then Fishman should get 30 and all his possessions taken as he must have made untold fortunes selling his crap.
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Exactly what I've been saying all along start throwing the owners in jail for being knowingly involved. Crawford's knew dammed well what Oakes was doing and payed for it in their training bill.
I'm guessing Chris wasn't billing owners for drugs. Most owners I know just pay their bills & root their horses on. I don't think they actually know when something illegal is going on. Trainers wouldn't be telling their owners hey I got some new stuff no they just use it!!
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I'm guessing Chris wasn't billing owners for drugs. Most owners I know just pay their bills & root their horses on. I don't think they actually know when something illegal is going on. Trainers wouldn't be telling their owners hey I got some new stuff no they just use it!!
tmbz1
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racing should take all puse money back and redistribute?
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you will never get the owners, even the ones who are complicit to some degree
however rooting out the juice trainers will accomplish the goal
but somebody within the harness racing governing bodies has to want to do it, cant depend on the feds for it all, they started but someone else will have to complete the task
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In many cases the owner as you said just pays the bill and roots their horses on and any extras are are hidden as therapeutic or supplements. But all of us know good competent trainers who feed the best, has a good training regimen but come race day gets beat by the same trainers who at any track are on top of the trainers list week in week out and it doesn't matter who drives the horse. I had a friend who trains in Ontario a few years ago and on my way back from Toronto I thought I would stop in and see him. Well when I pulled up to the barn he was was just coming out of a stall and when he saw me he slipped something into his jacket pocket. He was kind of abrupt and said I caught him at a bad time he had two in to go that night and had to get going because of lasix time. Should I bet both I asked and he said their in shape and should get a piece and after a few minutes he had to get going. When I got home that night I bet a $20 on both and they both won but it was the way they won. They both left from mid post position got the lead and were pressured every step and at the top of the stretch looked cooked but what do you know they hit another gear and open up widening through the stretch. After that it was the last time I saw this trainer even the next day I called a few times to say congrats I got both of them and he never answered so I just gave up on him.
The trainer probably just didn't want to talk to you and this was his way of telling you to F__k off. Can't say I blame him. You probably get that a lot.
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Wake up North American racing. In a recent article Hong Kong racing reported it's North American handle was up 7% over last year. This just proves bettors are waking up and they have had enough of unregulated racing where drugs rule and no one including governments care.
The Mohawk handle has been on fire this year. $2 bettors don't know who uses what.
Serious bettors build all things into their handicapping.
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Once again if Oakes loaded up as many as he said he did, how good was the testing in PA and New York 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Secondly I don't remember Oakes owners returning purse money which would include the Crawfords 11.wp 11.wp
Thirdly, doesn't Crawford Farms put a lot of promotional money into Goooooffffrrrraaa llllll Downs 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Lastly, how many of these HOT tests were buried 11.wp 11.wp
Just more facts and reasons that HISA needs to PASS and be enforced 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Harrness racing will never be trusted by new fans.
Ever
The fuckin guy just admitted to cheating for unfair advantage
That’s fckin stealing
Where is THE IRS.
DID HE PAY TAXES. ON ILLEGAL GOTTEN MONEY
THE TIME HAS ALSO COME TO GET IRS INVOLVED
EVERY ONE WHO PLEADS SHOULD HAVE AN IRS AUDIT
WHERES THE FUCKIN. TAX RETURNS.
Where is the advantage for the honest gamblers who trusted the tracks
To do proper cks
Where’s the advantage to honest owners and trainers who did not cheat to steal money from race tracks
3 Fuckin yrs max is a fuckin joke
Harness has become a fuckin joke
Harness should ban family members also of those convicted
From any track
But that won’t happen
Usta. Is basically FULL OF SHIT
HOPEFULLY GURAL WILL BAN FAMILY MEMBERS ALSO
FROM RACING AT BIGM
MILLER, ERVIN M WIND GAP, PA YOB 1966
PcD on 7/5/2021 FINED: $1,500
FULL - 15 DAYS, 10/29/2021 THRU 11/12/2021
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
PA Code 7-203.22 401.3(a)(b) Sample #374317 collected from the horse Regents Hanover
after race #7 on 7/5/21 was found to contain Dexamethasone. This is in violation of the
Pennsylvania medication rules. Mr. Miller is suspended 15 days(full)starting on 10/29/21
through 11/12/21. He is also fined $1500. There is also a loss of the purse($5850). During
this suspension he and all horses owned and trained by him are barred from all grounds
under the jurisdiction of the SHRC. Any transfer of horses during this suspension must be
approved by the judges at Pocono Downs or the SHRC. He my appeal this decision in
writing within 10 days of notice of this decision. the address for an appeal
is:2301N.Cameron St. Room 301-Harrisburg,PA 17110 ATTN TONY SALERNO
phone:717-787-5196
Sincerely, Silent One
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MILLER, ERVIN M WIND GAP, PA YOB 1966
PcD on 7/5/2021 FINED: $1,500
FULL - 15 DAYS, 10/29/2021 THRU 11/12/2021
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
PA Code 7-203.22 401.3(a)(b) Sample #374317 collected from the horse Regents Hanover
after race #7 on 7/5/21 was found to contain Dexamethasone. This is in violation of the
Pennsylvania medication rules. Mr. Miller is suspended 15 days(full)starting on 10/29/21
through 11/12/21. He is also fined $1500. There is also a loss of the purse($5850). During
this suspension he and all horses owned and trained by him are barred from all grounds
under the jurisdiction of the SHRC. Any transfer of horses during this suspension must be
approved by the judges at Pocono Downs or the SHRC. He my appeal this decision in
writing within 10 days of notice of this decision. the address for an appeal
is:2301N.Cameron St. Room 301-Harrisburg,PA 17110 ATTN TONY SALERNO
phone:717-787-5196
Sincerely, Silent One
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Where has this been for 100+ days ??? Oh, that is the heart of the racing season… can’t disrupt the guys racing schedule.
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That's differnet.
Accidental overdose.
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Yes
Obviously.
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Mama always said, "Once a thief, always a thief."
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That's differnet.
Accidental overdose.
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Swept under rug when revealed that vets watch caused the threshold violation.
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So he appeals the 15 days... doesn't interrupt the BCrown weekend ... gets it down to a week...takes off for the Carribean ... gets back in time for the TVG finals.
tmbz1
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Mama always said, "Once a thief, always a thief."
Your mama sure do have a lot of quotes
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Your mama sure do have a lot of quotes
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That's because he doesn't know which Mama of his said what.
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