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Title: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: HomewardBound on April 25, 2021, 03:17:12 PM: Last season looked like he was making strides but not now.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: cornishcommish on April 25, 2021, 04:25:08 PM: Next week they will all have the Moo Coo gas , which will be moved from Monticello to Bangor and then to Cumberland

Right now , Butterfield is getting of it
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 04:33:49 PM: Agree with Cornish. He had some good drives, just no horse power to complete moves. However, he is average, at best. Ranger, both Moshers, Athearn, Drew, Hall, Deslandes are better, Switzer, Graffam, Sowers, second tier. Still missing Heath and Val, not much of Ireland either.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: Locked in with pace on April 25, 2021, 04:51:31 PM: Graffam and Switzer 2nd tier?? I don't think so. Both driving for some stables with power at the ridge. Deslandes gets embarrassed when he tries to drive with the big boys.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 05:03:29 PM: Switzer does not seem like Switzer of years back. Graffam has not looked impressive to me either this year. Deslandes may be benefiting from dictionary horsepower, although he has improved.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: FlyGuy on April 25, 2021, 05:36:03 PM: Deslandes is terrible. He juat sends them.. gets lost off the pace. No brains... remember the apple doesn't fall from the tree...
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: chief yogi on April 25, 2021, 05:55:22 PM: nick g and jr look off this year. wont call em 2nd tier but off to a slow start.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: chief yogi on April 25, 2021, 05:59:02 PM: forgot to say that twomacsoneshadow race 7 was a huge improvement over last weeks fine drive.
Title: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 25, 2021, 06:16:03 PM: WOW THIS IS LOU PENNA?
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 06:25:51 PM: He is trainer of the year already.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 06:27:10 PM: He at got him over to the rail this week
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 25, 2021, 06:51:42 PM: Quote from: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 06:25:51 PM
He is trainer of the year already.
agree,
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: cornishcommish on April 25, 2021, 07:04:30 PM: Quote from: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 05:03:29 PM
Switzer does not seem like Switzer of years back. Graffam has not looked impressive to me either this year. Deslandes may be benefiting from dictionary horsepower, although he has improved.

I guess you are not watching Plainridge...wher e the money is
Both Nick and Jr are competing well against the likes of Shawn and Bruce and Jay Randall and Merton and Monti

The stables Jr drives for did not race at NY tracks all Winter and Spring......and will be strong by their 3rd start

Dan is a half mile track driver..who can get a horse off the gate...this works at Bangor...and will work at Cumberland....... ................. .his horses make money and you know he will always be in the race
He is wasting his time when he goes to Plainridge

Looks like a nice program Monday

I'll be there to wager
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 25, 2021, 07:06:52 PM: butterman is gonna gwt alot of new horses soon
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: chief yogi on April 25, 2021, 07:07:43 PM: i might send him mine. lol.
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 25, 2021, 07:15:36 PM: Quote from: chief yogi on April 25, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
i might send him mine. lol.
he wins
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 07:21:19 PM: Does he bet?
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 25, 2021, 07:29:59 PM: Quote from: Wawajones on April 25, 2021, 07:21:19 PM
Does he bet?
i dont think so
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: chief yogi on April 25, 2021, 08:00:53 PM: bets em good
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: In front on April 25, 2021, 08:37:23 PM: Wasn’t Butterfield a boxer
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 25, 2021, 08:43:33 PM: Quote from: In front on April 25, 2021, 08:37:23 PM
Wasn’t Butterfield a boxer
yes
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: PIGLAND on April 25, 2021, 08:45:16 PM: Quote from: chief yogi on April 25, 2021, 08:00:53 PM
bets em good
he has money
Title: Re: BUTTERFIELD IS NOT LOST AT BAGNOR
Post by: Locked in with pace on April 26, 2021, 07:34:10 AM: Runaway win % winner. Merrell may have way more starts and total wins
Title: CUMBERLAND CONDITION SHEET IS OUT- NO TM
Post by: Locked in with pace on April 26, 2021, 08:58:18 AM: Condition sheet is out. No use of TM ratings. Lots of thought put into the classification. Should make for some nice racing.
Title: Re: CUMBERLAND CONDITION SHEET IS OUT- NO TM
Post by: cornishcommish on April 26, 2021, 10:07:01 AM: Conditions do look interesting. I like the "Maine" condition added to most classes

We should be able to find classes for our horses who cant compete at Plainridge
And giving Marc a chance by us, trying to fill his classes will help him write future condition sheets.
He will have a good handle on what his horse population is

Who is Marcs assistant Jean Thayer
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: Locked in with pace on April 26, 2021, 11:44:59 AM: Looks like he did what the ridge did for 100% Mass owned horses this year. They all get a 20% allowance on the money earned in condition races.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: June b on April 26, 2021, 01:15:41 PM: Nice to see the old Scarborough conditions are back!
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: chief yogi on April 26, 2021, 04:20:56 PM: great condition sheet. good to see jean involved too. like that its not trackmaster conditions. hope for a great meet.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: cornishcommish on April 26, 2021, 04:58:15 PM: Chief Yogi

Who is Jean Thayer...any relation to the Thayers who have been racing in Maine

Thanks
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: jdogg1977 on April 26, 2021, 05:12:31 PM: Quote from: chief yogi on April 26, 2021, 04:20:56 PM
great condition sheet. good to see jean involved too. like that its not trackmaster conditions. hope for a great meet.

What condition sheet are you looking at? Every race except the FFA has trackmaster ratings figured in
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: old guy on April 26, 2021, 07:13:25 PM: Quote from: cornishcommish on April 26, 2021, 04:58:15 PM
Chief Yogi

Who is Jean Thayer...any relation to the Thayers who have been racing in Maine

Thanks

On Golden Pond
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: BIG DOM on April 27, 2021, 09:55:32 AM: They are weighing in on First Tracks condition sheet, not Bangor's. Jean Thayer is Asst. Race Director there also. Sheet now available on USTA
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: chief yogi on April 27, 2021, 10:38:26 AM: yes, cumberlands sheet is pretty good thought out a bit. will hopefully lead to good racing and some fan interest. its hard to write the right conditions all the time, the fact that it looks like thought was put into cumbys is a good step. with time some tinkering might have to happen but that is what a good race dept will do. thumbs up on first sheet.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: eyeinthesky on April 27, 2021, 10:43:27 AM: Check out Wednesday at Bangor

Heath Campbell is back and is down to drive McGuires horses

Did he get days...or a good decision to give the horses a break from him

Or ?????
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: chief yogi on April 27, 2021, 06:38:44 PM: heath is an improvement, though i thought sowers was getting better. my guess is he would be better off without his current woman.
Title: Re: Mac Sowers seemingly lost at Bangor
Post by: eyeinthesky on April 28, 2021, 01:30:46 AM: Quote from: chief yogi on April 27, 2021, 06:38:44 PM
.......... my guess is he would be better off without his current woman.

Did you notice who owns most of the horses he drives and trains ??