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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on November 18, 2020, 10:38:45 AM
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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2100716599717/court-documents-reveal-indicted-trainers-others-will-move-to-exclude-wire-taps
GOOD MOVE BY DEFENSE..
BUT WILL IT SUCK SEED..
EXPENSIVE LAWYERS FOR DEFENSE ON THEIR A GAME
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They listed 3 group of names of the indicted individuals. Nicky loafers wasn't listed anywhere. Did he sing and fly away,?
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3 NAMES EXCLUDED
LOOKS
LIKE WE HAVE FLIPPERS...
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They listed 3 group of names of the indicted individuals. Nicky loafers wasn't listed anywhere. Did he sing and fly away,?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEOeTX1LqM
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Without the wire taps they got nothing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEOeTX1LqM
They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No-one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying and lying, hes going to go under
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What was defense going to do? Sit on their asses? Time to earn some of that cash imo. Typical response from defense. See what floats..... I doubt these guys have teflon skins here.
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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2100716599717/court-documents-reveal-indicted-trainers-others-will-move-to-exclude-wire-taps
GOOD MOVE BY DEFENSE..
BUT WILL IT SUCK SEED..
EXPENSIVE LAWYERS FOR DEFENSE ON THEIR A GAME
unless they were talking to their lawyer, priest or rabbi, good luck with that!
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Typical pre-trial motions. It is what is done, when you have the funds to do so.
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https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/waiting-for-new-defendants-in-federal-case-you-could-be-waiting-a-while/
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In a perfect world, Ice I agree. I know, we are talking about The FBI and US Attorney's office, Southern District. But, the longer this stretches out, the more it favors the defendants that can fund a top law team. Just how it goes.
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3 NAMES EXCLUDED
LOOKS
LIKE WE HAVE FLIPPERS...
i told you
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i told you
i cant believe it
i hope they dont have me on fone ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
sandals is my pal tmbz1
and a plopper ;D ;D
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unless they were talking to their lawyer, priest or rabbi, good luck with that!
without a warrant for the taps
they are useless and judge will throw out
fishing expedition ,,aint sufficent
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wheres the counselor with his bullshit
sandals is
in o cent tmbz1
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Id like to have even a small percentage of whats being spent on this defense. I could retire and buy a nice rv off luc
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That's for sure
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That's for sure
hey caddy shack where u the fck u been
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Just played 18,,,,,alittle chilly only 78 today
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Just played 18,,,,,alittle chilly only 78 today
im on the couch in my undies eating frittos
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What a sight
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What a sight
u dont barbecued frittos
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I don't wear undies
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im on the couch in my undies eating frittos
She has a funny name. Is she puerto Rican?
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They are not going to get the audio or the video kicked out. I repeat this isn´t the race commissions or race tracks this is the Southern District of NY. Start singin boys and girls, the clock is on. First one sings gets the deal, Hey Nicky your number is up.
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Love it --- these guys attorneys are asking that just about everything gets thrown out as evidence.
phone taps
expert witness
eye witness
post arrest statements
test results
evidence from seizure of property
So basically the lawyers from Curly, Shemp, and Moe Law Offices say everything needs tossed. ngc3
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She has a funny name. Is she puerto Rican?
It's a he.
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IF ANY WIRETAPS WERE IN FACT PLACED WITHOUT A JUDGES EXECUTED WARRANT ---THEY ARE HISTORY. PERIOD. ANY EVIDENCE FOUND WITHOUT A JUDGES WARRANT THAT WAS NOT DULY NOTED---WILL BE EXCLUDED. PERIOD.
THE PROSECUTORS ALWAYS FIGHT A BIG FIGHT IF THE ACCUSED HAS A GREAT DEFENSE ATTORNEY. THIS IS NOT AS SOMEONE STATED THE LOCAL RACING COMMISSION---THIS IS THE BIG BOYS AND THEY PLAY HARD IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT.
VOICE MAILS ARE IN FACT EVIDENCE WITHOUT A JUDGES WARRANT BUT IF THE PHONES WERE OBTAINED WITHOUT A WARRANT THEN THEY WILL BE THROWN OUT.
IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT SOMEONE HAS GOOD DEFENSE COUNSEL AND I ASSUME THEY ARE COMMUNICATING TO HAVE A UNIFIED FRONT.
FURTHER, I BELIEVE VARIOUS PARTIES ARE SINGING AS THE SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT HAD NAMES MISSING FROM THE FIRST INDICTMENT. THEREFORE, SOMEONE HAS SUNG A TUNE.
THE SINGERS SOLIDIFY THE WARRANTLESS ENTRY AND EVIDENCE AS THEY CAN TESTIFY TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ILLEGALLY OBTAINED EVIDENCE. THEREFORE, THE SINGERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CASE.
THIS IS COMPLICATED BUT THE FIRST WHO SINGS GETS THE BEST DEAL!!!! I CAN ASSURE YOU THERE ARE MANY SINGING AND ALL BEING PROMISED SWEET DEALS AND TRUTHFULLY YOU NEED TO BE FIRST TO GET THE BEST DEAL.
EITHER WAY---THESE FOLKS HAVE A LONG ROCKY ROAD AHEAD OF THEM!
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Love it --- these guys attorneys are asking that just about everything gets thrown out as evidence.
phone taps
expert witness
eye witness
post arrest statements
test results
evidence from seizure of property
So basically the lawyers from Curly, Shemp, and Moe Law Offices say everything needs tossed. ngc3
Actually sir, it is the law offices of Moe, Larry, and Giuliani.
Sincerely, Silent One
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There are three singers. At fbi headquarters
Just got theirs names this morning
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Is your boyfriend singing the loudest? Or is that just a rumor
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Rumor
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IF THERE WERE WARRANTS----THE EVIDENCE WILL NOT BE THROWN OUT NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY! I DO NOT KNOW THE PARTICULARS OF THIS CASE----MY STATEMENTS ARE AS PER THE LAW OF THE LAND! ANY EVIDENCE OBTAINED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT VIA A WARRANT WILL BE USED IN THE CASE IF THE PROSECUTORS DECIDE TO USE IT!! THEY MAY NOT IF IT IS PART OF A PLEA DEAL WITH A FEDERAL WITNESS.
PLEASE RECALL THAT NONE OF THIS IS BINDING UNLESS STATED AND AGREED TO BY DEFENSE---PROSECUTOR AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE JUDGE--OTHERWISE ALL PLEAS ARE NON BINDING.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT IS VERY BUSY.
RECALL THERE IS A TIME LINE REQUIRED UNLESS THE PARTIES AGREED TO WAIVE THEIR RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL.
LOTS OF MOVING PARTS HERE!!!
I ALSO SEE THAT MANY SCHOOLS ETC ARE NOW CLOSING IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT. PLEASE RECALL THE ENTIRE IRS IS STILL WORKING FROM HOME!!!!
PRETTY CRAZY WHEN MOST OTHERS ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO WORK THEIR JOB UNDER WORSE CONDITIONS !!
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This miscreant group needs a top flight attorney like Ruddy Guiliani to evade serious jail time. Unfortunately for them he's tied up in court defending another miscreant right now.
Ruddy the man!
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There are three singers. At fbi headquarters
Just got theirs names this morning
The Pointer Sisters or Kingston Trio?
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LOAFERS NAME EXCLUDED FROM 2ND LIST BUT WE ALL SAW THAT, RIGHT?
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LOAFERS NAME EXCLUDED FROM 2ND LIST BUT WE ALL SAW THAT, RIGHT?
Hes in the file marked Flipper
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Hes in the file marked Flipper
Overseeing sod installations in Jersey during wintertime is lucrative. Worse than no-show job.
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I AGREE WITH ICE MAN ON HIS PRIOR STATEMENT.
IN A SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT-----THEY CAN ADD OR SUBTRACT NAMES. THEY CAN ADD NAMES MOVING FORWARD OR REMOVE ADDITIONAL NAMES. AS I SEE IT --THERE SEEMS TO BE EXTENSIVE EVIDENCE WHICH MEANS THAT IT ALL HAS TO BE REVIEWED AND PROVEN. THEREFORE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE SINGERS TO VERIFY AND STATE THAT MUCH OF THE HEARSAY IS FACT.
THIS I CAN SAY, WHOEVER WAS INDICTED IN THE SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT IS NOT ONE OF THE BIRDS. IN FACT, THESE FOLKS BASICALLY REFUSED TO COOPERATE AT THIS POINT. THERE WERE SEVERAL NAMES MISSING FORM THE INITIAL INDICTMENT. I ASSUME THESE FELLOWS ARE THE FEDERAL WITNESSSES. I FURTHER SEE THAT ALL PLED NOT GUILTY--THEREFORE, THIS IS GOING TO TRIAL AND EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WILL SEE WHO IN FACT ARE THE FEDERAL WITNESSES AS THEY WILL BE FORCED TO BE IDENTIFIED AND TESTIFY.
THEY SHOULD PRAY THAT THEY ARE NEVER SENT TO A FEDERAL PRISON AFTER TESTIFYING AGAINST ANOTHER AS WHEN YOU ARRIVE EACH PRISIONER IS FORCED TO SHOW HIS PAPERS TO VERIFY THEIR SPECIFIC CHARGES. GOD FORBID IF IT IS CHILD MOLESTATION OR TURNING FEDERAL WITNESS. THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ENVIOUS POSITION EVEN IN A PRISION CAMP.
I DO NOT KNOW ANY OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED OR WHERE THEY ARE FROM---BUT, I ASSUME THIS COULD BE A SERIOUS ISSUE IF THEY TESTIFY AGAINST OTHER CONNECTED PARTIES.
FURTHER, JUST BECAUSE THESE FOLKS WERE NOT RENAMED IN THE SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL NOT BE CHARGED. IT IS POSSIBLE THE GOVERNMENT IS PERFECTING THE EVIDENCE TO STRENGTHEN THEIR CASE.
IF I WAS A GAMBLING MAN ---I WOULD PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THOSE LEFT OF THE SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT ARE IN FACT TESTIFYING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO STRENGTHEN THE CASES AGAINST THE NAMED IN THE NEW INDICTMENT.
EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT INDICTED IN THE FUTURE --THE RACING COMMISSIONS MAY NEVER ISSUE A LICENSE DUE TO THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS DISCLOSED AGAINST THEM IN THE ORIGINAL INDICTMENT. THE COMMISSIONS NOW HAVE EVIDENCE ENOUGH TO BAR THEM FOR LIFE.
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In other words, snitches get stiches, end up in ditches or get brutally buggered by bulls who've made him his bitch
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The one thing I found very interesting from the prosecutor at the last conference which was very telling in how they are thinking and is not really being talked about was this statement:
Adams also took a moment to highlight one distinction he said the government made in its superseding indictment about the types of substances described in the charges. Adams pointed out that it will not be up to the government to show whether or not the drugs named were effective at manipulating a race outcome.
“A drug that is promoted and intended to be a performance enhancer, but is a dud, is nevertheless a misbranded/adulterated drug for the purposes of this indictment and the intent remains the same for the creation and administration of those drugs,” said Adams.
This type of analysis is very broad. I'm curious how far the court will go in buying this argument. If the court gives this argument and definition credence it will almost be impossible to defend a number of these cases. Every over the counter substance sold for horses except for generic hay and oats or prescribed by a vet could almost be classified as a misbranded/adulterated drug. Curious how the defense is going to attack that statement by the prosecutor.
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Hopefully the commissions will have stronger leadership, and keep these asshole out of the game and all the beards who are hooked up with them.
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Thats to be expected....most are denied