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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: roughryder on October 05, 2020, 10:28:36 PM
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Some of the 26 indicted trainers buying horses at the sale today?
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YES
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ITS EITHER THAT OR SELL THE RIGGIN AND MOVE TO FLORIDA
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business is a total joke. Bet the media would love this story.
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Some of the 26 indicted trainers buying horses at the sale today?
Crazy isn’t it. Allard bought one like 200k
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Where's Counselor? How can this be permitted?
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Where's Counselor? How can this be permitted?
Because we live in America where you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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yes they all re instated
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business is a total joke. Bet the media would love this story.
How did you OHIO guys miss this one
Allard still gasing !
RACE 9 - Hollywood Gaming Dayton Raceway - OH - October 3, 2020
Conditions: HORSES & GELDINGS DAYTON DERBY CONSOLATION
Gait: Pace Purse: $75,000 Class: HG OPEN Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 60-0 Off Time: 9:49 PM
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
4 Stars Align A 4 1/2 1/1H 1/2 1/2 1/4 1:48.1 28.0 11.10 Dan Noble Christ Noble
Stars Align A (7, H Art Major - Nosotros - Albert Albert)
Registered Owner(s)/Lessee(s): D Racing Stable Inc - NY, Yves Sarrazin - QC, Bruce Soulsby - OH
Watch the replay........... brings back memories of Brennan driving for Lou Pena
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I posted about them in the Nicholas Beach thread winning the Open at Dayton a while back using her as trainer. Complete joke.
Apparently, Billy Gibbons or Dusty Hill weren't available...
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Cassie buyin horses
Sandals selling horses
I told you guys
It’s not a biggie
Stop it
Good people. And family people
With Christian upbringing
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Lucparc. I assume you type this stuff to get a rise out of people as NOBODY is that stupid. Is your life that pitiful that this is how you get attention. What a fucking douchebag. Surick the biggest laughingstock ever...all the tbred guys loved how he got used and abused by Navarro. Little prick...sound familiar? Fuck off.
How you get when your fed by the silver spoon all your life!
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Lucpark is correct good Christian people. Cheaters need to make a living. Just like all the other criminals in the world That don't get arrested.
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Lucpark is correct good Christian people. Cheaters need to make a living. Just like all the other criminals in the world That don't get arrested.
Christian people need money too
Can’t we just forgive and forget
Cassie buyin horses
She ain’t retired you pigeon brains
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You guys are simpletons
Sandals says hello from his suite At Lexington
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Christian people need money too
Can’t we just forgive and forget
Have either done a days work in their lives , not hard spending money that they didn't work for
Cassie buyin horses
She ain’t retired you pigeon brains
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You guys are simpletons
Sandals says hello from his suite At Lexington
You guys are the best
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Puke Park, So Christian people need money too? It doesn't give them the right to do dishonest acts and steal.. And the same goes for overcharging on worthless cars and financing theses Pigeons (as you call them) with super high interest rates. You call that being a Good Christian? You've got some serious problems. I hope that future car customers see this and are aware of your values.... Scum Bag!
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Christian people need money too
Can’t we just forgive and forget
Cassie buyin horses
She ain’t retired you pigeon brains
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You guys are simpletons
Sandals says hello from his suite At Lexington
You guys are the best
Sandals loves plops tmbz1
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Because we live in America where you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
That might be true but since there is a major issue to their integrity, they have been rightfully sidelined until it is resolved!
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Lucparc. I assume you type this stuff to get a rise out of people as NOBODY is that stupid. Is your life that pitiful that this is how you get attention. What a fucking douchebag. Surick the biggest laughingstock ever...all the tbred guys loved how he got used and abused by Navarro. Little prick...sound familiar? Fuck off.
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Puke Park, So Christian people need money too? It doesn't give them the right to do dishonest acts and steal.. And the same goes for overcharging on worthless cars and financing theses Pigeons (as you call them) with super high interest rates. You call that being a Good Christian? You've got some serious problems. I hope that future car customers see this and are aware of your values.... Scum Bag!
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That might be true but since there is a major issue to their integrity, they have been rightfully sidelined until it is resolved!
Unfortunately only the racing of horses is regulated not training. And not just harness same in all breeds. Biggest problem with the integrity bill going through Congress. All regulations start with first official work out in TB
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FIRST, EACH OF THE INDICTED WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY AS PER THEIR BOND BE RELEASED TO A SPECIFIC REGION. THIS REGION IS WHERE THEY LIVE. ( MAKE THEIR HOME). THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED TO LEAVE THE DISTRICT TO WHERE THEY WERE RELEASED AND LIVE WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISION FROM THE JUDGE. THIS PERMISSION MUST BE OBTINED VIA A MOTION OR A REQUEST FROM COUNSEL..
IF THERE IS GOOD REASON TO LEAVE YOUR DISTRICT THE JUDGE WILL CONSIDER EACH CASE ----CASE BY CASE. THIS REQUEST COULD BE GRANTED AND THE ATTORNEY MUST STATE:
1. WHY PERSMISSION IS BEING REQUESTED TO LEAVE THE DISTRICT
2. THE EXACT DATE TO LEAVE AND TO RETURN TO THEIR DISTRICT.
3. WHERE THEY WILL STAY AS WELL AS CONTACT INFORMATION OF WHERE THEY ARE STAYING -IE. PHONE NUMBER OF HOTEL, ETC.
4. THIS PERMISSION IF GRANTED IS ONLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPECIFIC REQUEST.
5. FOR GOOD CAUSE A JUDGE CAN APPROVE THE REQUEST.
*****I HAVE SEEN JUSDGES TURN DOWN REQUEST FOR CHRISTMAS DINNER AT A FAMILY MEMBERS HOME!! THEREFORE, THIS REUEST WILL BE GRANTED FOR GOOD CAUSE AS WELL THE DANGER THE ACCUSED MAY ASSERT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
IN THIS CASE, IF ANY OF THE INDICTED ATTENDED THE LEXINGTON SALE THEY WOULD OF BEEN REQUIRED TO HAVE A WRIITEN APPROVED TO ATTEND THE SALE AND FOR A SPECIFIC REASON AND SPECIFIC DATES. I FURTHER HAVE SEEN PRE-TRIAL OFFICES IN THE DISTRICT OF WHICH THE REQUEST IS MADE --BE NOTIFIED AND REQUESTED TO VERIFY THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DISCLOSED. THIS IS NOT AN AUTOMATICE APPROVAL.
IF ANYONE LEFT THEIR APPROVED DISTRICT WITHOUT THE JUDGES APPROVAL THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THEIR BOND AND THEY WOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE JUDGE IN ORDER FOR THE JUDGE TO HEAR WHAT OCCURRED AND THE JUDGE COULD REVOKE THE BOND OR CHANGE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE BOND. THIS IS FOR THE INDICTED AS THESE WERE FEDERAL INDICTMENTS. STATE BONDS ARE DIFFERENT AND HAVE VARIOUS TERMS AND CONDITIONS DEPENDING ON THE STATE OF ISSUE. IN THIS CASE, EACH ARREST WAS MADE VIA FEDERAL CHARGE S---NOT STATE. ALTHOUGH, IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT STATE CHARGES COULD BE BROUGHT AGAINST THE INDICTED. AS YOU ARE AWARE, EACH CAN NOT ONLY BE CHARGED IN FEDERAL COURT THEY CAN IN FACT BE CHARGED IN STATE COURT. THIS COULD BECOME VERY TRICKY AS THE INDICTED MAY NOT REALIZE THAT STATE CHARGES MAY BE FILED ADDITIONALLY TO THE FEDERAL CHARGES.
SOMETIMES THE INDICTED IS CONVICTED OF A FEDERAL CRIME---SENTENCED TO FEDERAL PRISION---SERVES HIS TIME AND SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE THEIR RELEASE FROM FEDERAL PRISION THE STATE OFFICERS SHOW UP WITH A STATE WARRANT AND TRANSFERS THE INMATE TO A PARTICULAR STATE WHERE NEW CHARGES WERE FILED FOR THE SAME OR SIMILAR CHARGES. THIS GETS VERY TRICKY. THIS HAPPENS FREQUENTLY IN CASES WHERE THERE ARE MANY VICTIMS.
THE REQUEST TO ATTEND A HORSE SALE WOULD BE RECORDED AND IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND CAN BE VIEWED ON PACER. ANYONE CAN HAVE A PACER ACCOUNT AND VIEW THE CASES THAT YOU SPEAK ABOUT INCLUDING MOTIONS, CHARGES, ETC. PACER IS THE LEGAL LIBRARIAN FOR EACH CASE IN THE U.S..
WWW.PACER.USCOURT S.GOV
ANY CASE CAN BE FOUND VIA NAME OF PARTY, CASE NUMBER, ETC.
IN CLOSING, IF ANY OF THE INDICTED TRAINERS WENT TO THE LEXINGTON SALE ---THEY ONLY WENT WITH PERMISSION OF THE COURT AND EVERY DETAIL OF THE REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED IN WRITING SND REVIEWED BY A JUDGE BEFORE PERMISSION WAS GRANTED.
HOPE THIS HELPS EXPLAIN THE PROCEDURE.
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Saw a few there so judge must have granted
Their traveling wishes
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A BIG THANKS to the COUNSELOR
Its nice to learn something each day , and your posts always do that
Hope to hear more law clarifications when these cases get to court
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Thanks Counselor. I'm just having trouble understanding why a judge would allow someone who has been indicted for abusing horses go to a horse sale. Yeah, i know, innocent until proven guilty. But there seems to be a lot of evidence to support these charges
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Allard is operating as usual
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IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT THE COUNSEL FOR THE VARIOUS PARTIES MADE CASES VIA MOTION OR BRIEF THAT THEY , AS PER THE CONSTITUTION HAS THE RIGHT TO EARN A LIVING AND MUCH BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED AT A SALE. POSSIBLE THEY WERE SELLERS AND POSSIBLY BUYERS BUT EACH TRANSACTION WAS IN FACT MANDATORILY BE DISCLOSED TO THE COURTS. I AM NOT SURE REGARDING FINES AND RESTITUTION YET AS COVID 19 HAS TRULY SLOWED DOWN THIS PROCESS.
I WOULD GUESS THAT THE PROCEDURE WAS FOLLOWED PROPERLY AS NO ONE WOULD BE FOOL ENOUGH TO VIOLATE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE JUDGE COULD REVOKE OR CHANGE BOND TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF HE SO CHOOSES PLUS THE PROSECUTORS COULD IN FACT REQUEST BOND CHANGES IF THERE IS JUST CAUSE.
I WOULD GUESS REALITY IS BEGINNING TO SET IN BY NOW AND EACH WILL BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE IN FOR BOTH MENTALY, EMOTIONALLY AND ESPECILLY FINANCIAL. THE LEGAL BILLS WILL TRULY BEGIN TO STACK AS THE CASE MOVES FORWARD PLUS NEGOTIATIONS FOR A PLEA DEAL.
MY GUESS IS EACH WILL PLEAD GUILTY AS THEIR CRIMES WILL BE GREATLY REDUCED BY THE COURT IF THEY TAKE RESPPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. FURTHER, THE FEDERAL SYSTEM IS BUILT ON THE INDICTED TELLING ON OTHERS WHO ARE INVOLVED. THAT IS WHY SO MANY NEW PARTIES ARE ALWAYS BROUGHT INTO THE CASE AS THE CASE MOVES FORWARD. THOSE WHO TALK FIRST GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THEIR BUCK. I HAVE SEEN THIS CHANGE A SENTENCE BY AS MUCH AS TEN YEARS SO IT IS A HUGE CONTRIBUTOR TO THEIR RELEASE AND SENTENCING.
"PACER" IS THE KEY TO THE MOTIONS AND VARIOUS LEGAL ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.
WE HAVE HEARD "RUMORS" THAT THERE IS MORE TO BE INDICTED BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ONLY "RUMOR" AND THERE WILL ONLY BE FACTUAL INFORMATION WHEN THE JUDGE RULES!!!
ANYTHING OTHER THAN A JUDGE RULING OR COURT DOCUMENTS ON PACER IS MOST LIKELY HEARSAY.
HOPE THIS HELPS!
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Please keep us informed to the reality not the rumors, thank you again.
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I will say it was disturbing watching Allard parade around Fasig-Tipton examining yearlings like he didn’t have a care in the world.
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Sub human piece of shit.
great marketing tool for the USTA, we take anybody, even indicted trainers. Joe says they´re not convicted yet, so what is the problem. Banca great guy he never had an idea that stuff was ALLEGEDLY going on.
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Counselor: What are your thoughts on a timeframe when the courts deal with the original indictments?
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Allard is operating as usual
he aint afraid of no
GHOST
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EACH OF THE INDICTED IS ENTITLED TO A "SPEEDY TRIAL" AS PER THE CONSTITUTION. FURTHER, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO A JURY TRIAL. IN ESSENCE THIS MEANS THEY MUST BE TRIED WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF THE DATE OF THEIR RREST UNLESS THEY IN FACT SIGN A WAIVER STATING THAT THEY WILL IN FACT WAIVE THAT RIGHT.
THE QUESTION HERE IS THAT THE ATTORNEYS FOR EITHER OF THE PARTIES CAN IN FACT CLAIM THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS CAUSED A DELAY IN THE PREPARATION OF THEIR CASES OR THEIR DEFENSE.
THERE IS A TERM CLLED "TOLLING" WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THAT EVERYTHING IS STAYED BUT PRESERVED DURING A SITUATION THAT NEITHER PARTY CONTROLLED. THEREFORE, THE TIME FROM AROUND MARCH 23 2020 TO CURRENT---EITHER SIDE CAN SAY THE RIGHT TO A "SPEEDY TRIAL" MUST BE EXTENDED DUE TO THE "TOLLING " OF THE PANDEMIC DELAYS.
I PERSONALLY BELEIVE THAT THE COURT MAY GO THIS ROUTE AND THEREFORE THE TRIAL OR PLEA DEAL COULD BE EXTENDED TO SUMMER OF 2021.
TIME WILL TELL.
THE RACING COMMUNITY WILL KNOW ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL INDICTMENTS BEFORE THE ATTORNEYS OR THE INVOLVED.
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Counselor: I will assume that some of the indicted will "sing" to avoid a longer sentence. And I am sure that the list of people that bought and used these illegal drugs is greater than the 29 people named so far. Will the added names be on hold till summer of 21 too or will more indictments be annoimced sooner?
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"Rumor" has it that there are many more involved and several additional indictments. This is not uncommon to take an extended period of time to go thru a large case such as this. Plus with the "PANDEMIC" many worked from home and continue to work from home. It is obvious in my opinion that these delays are warranted due to the extensive files and evidence accumulated over several years.
If there are additional indictments ------and again, I have only heard "RUMORS" not fact---most likely additional indictments are forthcoming and they will continue to add in number as additional information is shared by these newly indicted with law enforcement.
My guess, is a trial or plea deal in June 2021 for the original indicted group. I personally feel this will all be handled via plea deals. The federal system is built on plea deals and "cooperation" from those indicted. The win rate is 97% to 98% for the PROSECUTORS. There is an old saying that the feds never ask the accused a question unless they already have the evidence supporting their known answer!
This is important case law as other states may use these cases to police the industry that is under severe scrutiny by several special interest groups and the publicity regarding the various integrity acts now being presented and considered in congress.
This case came at a very bad time for the harness industry. It has created a lot of bad press and fortunately the COVID-19 drama took away much of the negative publicity that would have been in the public eye.
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Thank you Counselor
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I'm pretty sure Pigland is still hoping for an indictment with the Brigade Chiefs name on it
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I'm pretty sure Pigland is still hoping for an indictment with the Brigade Chiefs name on it
yeshow fo they not name burke
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The Counselor is Joe Dakuras. He knows enough legal terminology to be dangerous.
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The Counselor is Joe Dakuras. He knows enough legal terminology to be dangerous.
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I recall that there is several status hearings coming up before Christmas for several of the indicted. A "status" hearing does just that---give the status of the prosecutors case and the defense. Truly, it is a scorecard per say. It will be interesting to see the status as there is years of evidence that has been gathered since the Chester investigation several years ago. Further, there are several powerful folks within the industry pushing hard for additional indictments to be presented.
These "status" hearings will give everyone an update on where these cases stand and what the target dates are moving forward. They may even mention additional indictments that are either already presented or will be presented.
This I do know as fact-----only the judge will make all of the interim and final decisions. That is the only fact at this point! Otherwise, both sides are still pointing fingers!!!!
The finger pointing will become less and less as we move towards a trial date and the indicted will be forced to accept a plea (which is how I believe this will end) or a trail!!!
Time will tell.
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Whoever is employed by HT
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I recall that there is several status hearings coming up before Christmas for several of the indicted. A "status" hearing does just that---give the status of the prosecutors case and the defense. Truly, it is a scorecard per say. It will be interesting to see the status as there is years of evidence that has been gathered since the Chester investigation several years ago. Further, there are several powerful folks within the industry pushing hard for additional indictments to be presented.
These "status" hearings will give everyone an update on where these cases stand and what the target dates are moving forward. They may even mention additional indictments that are either already presented or will be presented.
This I do know as fact-----only the judge will make all of the interim and final decisions. That is the only fact at this point! Otherwise, both sides are still pointing fingers!!!!
The finger pointing will become less and less as we move towards a trial date and the indicted will be forced to accept a plea (which is how I believe this will end) or a trail!!!
Time will tell.
COUNCELOR--HOW DO i SEND YOU A PERSONAL MESSAGE?? doesnt work when I try.
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COUNCELOR--HOW DO i SEND YOU A PERSONAL MESSAGE?? doesnt work when I try.
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I HAVE NO CLUE HOW THIS SITE WORKS. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM NOT A MODERATOR NOR HAVE I OWNED OR TRAINED A STANDARDBRED IN EXCESS OF 30 YEARS!!!! FURTHER, I DO NOT KNOW ANY OF THE TRAINERS THAT WERE INDICTED AND AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES I DO NOT HAVE "DOG IN THIS FIGHT!" I JUST TRY TO BE OBJECTIVE----NON BIASED AND HOPEFULLY HELP RELAYS FACT---NOT RUMOR OR FICTION.
THE EVIDENCE LOOKS VERY DAMAGING BUT AGAIN THAT IS ONLY WHAT I HAVE READ AND SEEN FIRST HAND. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT DEFENSE THE ATTORNEYS HAVE IN MIND OR IN THEIR POSSESSION. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THERE WILL BE NO TRIALS----ALL WILL PLEAD OUT AND EFFECTIVELY THERE WILL BE A RUSH TO POINT FINGERS TO GET LIGHTER SENTENCES. NO ONE WINS IN THESE CASES. NO ONE WILL ENJOY THEIR LIFE POST SENTENCING AS THEY ENJOYED IT PRE- SENTENCING.
THESE ARE REAL ISSUES WITH REAL JUDGES AND TRUTHFULLY THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK IS THE TRENDSETTER IN WHITE COLLAR CRIME SINCE THE LOCATION IN WALL STREET!!!!
THIS IS GOING TO GET INTERESTING FORALL PARTIES AND I ONLY HOPE THAT JUSTICE IS OBTAINED--THE TRUTH....THE FACTS AND FOR THOSE THAT REQUIRE PUNISHMENT---THEY ARE PUNISHED. IF YOU ARE INNOCENT---SO BE IT!! MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!
THERE IS NO FRIENDS IN FEDERAL COURT. BLAND AND RULINGS ON FACT!!
HOPE THIS HELPS!!
I ONY TRY TO BE HOMEST AND STRAIGHT FORWARD AND NON-BIASED.
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Joe Dakuras hasn't owned or trained a horse in 30 years.
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Truth man your a fucking idiot, Shane and Pete are father and son so stop posting on shit you have no idea about
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I just love seeing at Pocono's === a Rene Allard now trained by Lou Pena and driven by Simon....
Gotta love this game....
Who's more corrupt ? the indicted trainers or the Race Officials.
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pocono is un watchable
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Wheres Bret Revington? gone, but things never change. Corruption top to bottom.
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I just love seeing at Pocono's === a Rene Allard now trained by Lou Pena and driven by Simon....
Gotta love this game....
Who's more corrupt ? the indicted trainers or the Race Officials.
They should post the Miranda warning at the paddock entrance, just to save time...
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I just love seeing at Pocono's === a Rene Allard now trained by Lou Pena and driven by Simon....
Gotta love this game....
Who's more corrupt ? the indicted trainers or the Race Officials.
Not even close. The Race Officials at every track.
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I just love seeing at Pocono's === a Rene Allard now trained by Lou Pena and driven by Simon....
Gotta love this game....
Who's more corrupt ? the indicted trainers or the Race Officials.
Rene definitely has a sense of humor, in your face
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IT IS UNCLEAR ON WHAT THE ADDITIONAL CHARGES MAY BE AS THERE ARE ALLEGEDLY ADDITIONAL HORSEFOLKS TO BE INDICTED. I HAVE READ EXCERPTS FROM SEVERAL OF THE POWER FOLKS IN HARNESS RACING AND THEY SEEM TO FEEL THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL INDICTMENTS COMING VERY SOON. USUALLY, IN AN INVESTIGATION SEVERAL OF THE KEY ADVOCATES ARE KEPT IN THE LOOP TO THE INVESTIGATION AS WELL AS THE DIRECTION OF THE INVESTIGATION. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH SEVERAL OF THESE FOLKS HAVE STATED PUBLICLY THAT THERE ARE INDICTMENTS TO COME.
IF THIS IS FACT----THEN IS IS LOGICAL THAT CERTAIN ENTITIES CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT RACES OF HORSES THAT HAD ENHANCED PERFORMANCE. I AM VERY SURE THAT BLOOD DRAWN AT CHESTER SEVERAL YEARS BACK WAS DRWN AND STORED FOR FUTURE TESTING. THIS IS FACT. WHETHER THEY HAVE USED THESE PAST SAMPLES AND COMPARED TO THOSE INDICTED TRAINERS ---THERE COULD BE A CORRELATION TO PERFORMANCE V NON-PERFORMANCE ENHANCED HORSES WHERE THE OUTCOME OF THE RACES COULD BE CONSTRUED AS CONTROLLED OR IN ESSENCE "FIXED."
I PERSONALLY DID NOT BELEIVE THAT THE INVESTIGATION WAS HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION BUT 'RUMORS" ABOUND THAT IT IS. I HAVE NO FACTS SUPPORTING THIS CLAIM---ONLY HEARSAY.
FOLKS, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT WILL BE LIKE AN OPERA. PEOPLE WILL BE SINGING AS THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THE FEDS OPERATE---THERE WILL BE DEALS OFFERED TO REDUCE SENTENCES. EACH OF THE ATTORNEYS WILL RECOMMEND TO THE INDICTED TO TAKE THE DEALS. IF A PUBLIC DEFENDER IS INVOLVED THEY WILL DEFINITELY RECOMMEND TO THEIR CLIENT TO ACCEPT A PLEA AS THERE ARE ACTUAL PAY PLANS THAT PUBLIC DEFENDERS ARE PAID--THE MOST EFFICIENT PAYMENT IS FOR ACHIEVING A "PLEA DEAL." THEREFORE, I WOULD NOT BE SURPRIED IF EVERY ONE OF THE INDICTED DOE A PLEA DEAL.
FURTHER, I DO THINK THESE TRIALS/PLEA DEALS WILL BE EXTENDED IF IN FACT THE "RUMORS" OF ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ARE INDICTED. IF THIS IS TRUE I BELEIVE THE TRIALS WILL BE SCHEDULED IN FALL OF 2021. TIME WILL TELL.
THESE COMMENTS ARE BASED ON OPINION WITHOUT A FACTUAL BIAS NOR AFFIDAVITS OR DISCLOSED TESTIMONY. THEREFORE, I DO NOT WANT TO MISLEAD ANUONE ON THIS SITE AS MY STATEMENTS ARE BASED ON "RUMORS"---AND MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD AND READ---I DO NOT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE AS THE FEDS HAVE NOT RELEASED THIS AS FAR AS I KNOW.
THERE WERE SEVERAL STATUS HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THE FALL. THIS WILL STATE THE DISEMINATION OF INFORMATION AND YOU WILL SEE MORE FACTS BEING RELEASED AND THE PATH OF THIS CASE.
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Thanks for the opinions, they are appreciated.
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Thanks for the opinions, they are appreciated.
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The counselor knows his stuff. His info and thoughts are greatly appreciated.