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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: John Esposito on July 16, 2020, 06:04:34 AM
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https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/generic/2020-07-18-meadowlands.pdf
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Thanks a bunch
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Rough post for Gimpanzee, hopefully the extra 1/8 will help. Priceless is finally shipping to some competition.
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ty
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Priceless has zero chance to win against that field!!! Will be lucky to get a check. Faded and couldn't hold lead against Indy breds last out. This is the big leagues! I like JK FIRST LADY and LYONS SENTINEL to slug it out.
Layoff should help Priceless, she looked tried 2 weeks ago. LYON SENTINEL had pretty easy trip last week and blew it (sloppy track). We'll see.
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Priceless has zero chance to win against that field!!! Will be lucky to get a check. Faded and couldn't hold lead against Indy breds last out. This is the big leagues! I like JK FIRST LADY and LYONS SENTINEL to slug it out.
SHES HASNT LOOKED RIGHT SINCE THAT
UN NECESSARY 50/1 QUALIFER
THAT MITE HAVE COOKED HER
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Stratton is up on Soho Burning Love.
IMO If First Lady and Sentinel "slug it out" a trip horse will win either Rocknificent, Reflect With Me or even Sneaky with Dunn at a huge price.
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Dave Brower released his picks and oh boy, they are as bad as ever.
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http://www.thebigm.com/uploadedFiles/Handicapping/Past_Performances/mxx0718x.pdf
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Whats the over and Under on attendance and Handle?
Attendance 1000
Handle 4.5 mil
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Wish tetrick would have took thats what i said!!!!!!! Like allywag for a shot st the pace perfect horse for tim 2nd over cover trip an wxplode in stretch
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John Esposito and Bad Gambler thank u both very much for the early program...much appreciated.
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Thanks for sharing! tmbz1
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Interesting read.
Especially that the Alagna trainer gorse got a better post than others
https://harnessracingupdate.com/
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Alagna and his owners should be ashamed. Could of gotten away with it, but racing the horse that was scratched at the meadows is a BLACK EYE again for harness racing
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After Alagna" took it easy" with Ramona Hill or fixed the race. This week even from the 10 post she will be so
good it may even turn Tony to girls. 1st or send is a lock.
Gural wants honest no games racing but he still has not suspended Alagna for race fixing.
Funny Tony is having knee issues and Gural smiling a lot the last week. ngc3
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U BET HER LAST WEEK DIDNT CHA ngc3 ngc3
JUST ADMIT IT NOW U LOOK LIKE A DUMMY
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Only in the pick which you had to have Sorella. After I saw Tony's comment exacta was a very nice hit plus Win
and Place Show would have been better if she didn't get third. I should send Tony a Basket or flowers thanking
him for the great information. I have the balls to do it. Anyone want action Tony shows the flowers on Social
Media?
I admit I would have had her with Sorella likely a break even if not for Tony. This week 1st or second. !!!
Money will be down!
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Just saw the TVG hype for the Pace ... This is verbatim. "Don't miss the Meadowlands signature pace event The Meadowlands pace AND 3 YEAR OLD PACERS IN THE WR HAUGHTON MEMORIAL."
Freakin idiots.
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Harvey i love you brother i love how people live off pass succes when alot of the time 2yo champs dont come back at 3 and 3yo dont come back at 4 sorella is an absolute monster and in all fact panem will run 2nd not ramona hill!!!!!!!! Sorella beat zerons 3yo colt and last week was a hand ride and zerons colt made a move from last to first in last 1/16 of mile its all sorella!!!
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Just saw the TVG hype for the Pace ... This is verbatim. "Don't miss the Meadowlands signature pace event The Meadowlands pace AND 3 YEAR OLD PACERS IN THE WR HAUGHTON MEMORIAL."
Freakin idiots. That haughton seems weak in comparison to prior seasons. The conso has more familiar faces.
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Yes .. you guys .. send it in. Tony says he's trying this week. Post 10 doesn't matter .. it never does. Sorella is a Beast undefeated this year, has Yannick, won under 1.51 got post 1 such a good post for a trotter ;D .. send it in ... everybody send it in .. please.
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You do realize my post has to do with TVG making a mistake and saying the Haughton was for 3 year olds when it's the Pace that is for 3 year olds?
As for your Haughton comment. You think that a Jug Winner, Multiple Breeders Crown Winners and Multiple Winners of Major Stakes are not familiar names? The conso has Sintra, Dealt a Winner, Donttellmeagain and a bunch of Meadowlands regulars. give me a break.
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Ramona races well. Very good field. Melander has horse power too. Mo Pushover Prices should be good.
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Century Farroh lock for first or second. Locked in as bad as you can last week. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Odd play but I love luc (only good luc I ever known - most suck used car exhaust pipes) blais second horse Steuben Hanover to hit ticket. Don't think he can win but every horse luc brings on a big day is charted for a single race. Respectable move last out at mohawk. Will like added distance. Respect the man. I'm playing :
$2 Triple
1 11 13 over
1 5 7 11 12 13 over
2
and
.50 cent Superfecta
1 11 13 over
1 5 7 11 12 13 over
1 5 7 11 12 13 over
2
and $10 ex
1 11 13 over 2.
Also playing $10 win on 2 just in case lightening strikes.
Also making $50 win bet. V Morgan gelding in 11th 4 our majordan.
Good luck.
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its here
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Alagna trying to scratch and cheat obviously we saw why. Chiefmate folded like a cheap suit. Captain Midnight
winning would be very interesting. Scratch and miss and win. Maybe Alagna is sleeping at Gurals??
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Pick Five - P5 (PWHL) 1, 3, 6 / 6, 7 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 6, 7 / 1, 3, 4, 7
1st - 1 The Devils Own N 3,6,5
2nd - 6 Manchego 7,2,4
3rd - 1 Sorella 8,5,10
4th - 6 Back of the Neck 7,5,1
5th - 3 Chestnut Hill 1,7,4
Good Luck To All.
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Odd play but I love luc (only good luc I ever known - most suck used car exhaust pipes) blais second horse Steuben Hanover to hit ticket. Don't think he can win but every horse luc brings on a big day is charted for a single race. Respectable move last out at mohawk. Will like added distance. Respect the man. I'm playing :
$2 Triple
1 11 13 over
1 5 7 11 12 13 over
2
and
.50 cent Superfecta
1 11 13 over
1 5 7 11 12 13 over
1 5 7 11 12 13 over
2
and $10 ex
1 11 13 over 2.
Also playing $10 win on 2 just in case lightening strikes.
Also making $50 win bet. V Morgan gelding in 11th 4 our majordan.
Good luck.
Like your Morgan horse too..give him another chance.
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Ramona 1st or 2nd Alagna promised Jeffy he would try harder tonight.
Pace is wide open!!
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Lets here your best bets and selections for tonight!
Race 3 1 over 6 8 10
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Big big night tonight
Loaded
Just won the first race 1:48
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I like the 8 here. Tough draw but should be good and ready.
This was the 2 y/o to beat last year and has came back just as good this season!
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Pick Five - P5 (PWHL) 1, 3, 6 / 6, 7 / 1, 5, 8 / 1, 5, 6, 7 / 1, 3, 4, 7
FLUSH
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Nothing like going at "Post Time"
Not!
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YANKEES VS METS ON ESPN2
GOOD NIGHT AND GOODBYE RACING
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wont hit the board
nancy horse a monster..will pee on tonys nag
Good call tmbz1 73cv.2
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Ramona 1st or 2nd Alagna promised Jeffy he would try harder tonight.
Pace is wide open!!
AND THAT IDIOT WONDERS WHY RACING IS DEAD, STIFF ONE WEEK, TRY NEXT
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Ramona vicious .. good call. Sorella not so much. Hypnotic hung. No question Ramona looks like the best 3 year old trotter in training. Let's see how fast the boys go now.
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Race 4.
I would fine AKE $500 for every time he turn his head back looking for Zeron!
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Race 4.
I would fine AKE $500 for every time he turn his head back looking for Zeron!
What a moron!! You are allowed to see who the hell is coming!! Gingras does it all the time! Hell they all do !
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Frick I needed Ake for the Pk5!!!
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What a moron!! You are allowed to see who the hell is coming!! Gingras does it all the time! Hell they all do !
Yeah your right everyone you don't agree with must be a moron!
I guess better then being a POS know it all!
He was looking for Zeron to give him cover..Plain and simple!
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PK4
1,6/4,5,6,7/1,13/4,9 =$32
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Early Pick Four - P4 (PWHL) 1, 8 / 4, 5, 6, 7 / 1, 5, 11, 13 / 4, 5, 9
6th - 1 Jk First Lady 8,6,2
7th - 4 Century Farroh 5,7,6
8th - 1 Forbidden Trade 13,11,5
9th - 4 Allywag Hanover 5,9,3
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spot on!
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spot on!
tmbz1 Right from 1st race on - Tetrick/king horse in first went big mile.
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R8 11,13/11,13/1/3
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Forbidden Trade to repeat
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Gimpanzee,MONSTER
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Rabbi I was just coming to post that...WOW is all I could say...when Sears gave him the go coming out the turn he was gone...there was Gimpanzee and 12 others.
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No excuses there. Gimpanzee blew them away. He also blows the two mares away in Atlanta and Manchego.
Pity more horse don't retire at 3. Not good for racing when they do.
Also IMO, the breed will get even better if they breed more Ready Cash's and Love You's. That french blood injected with the speed will produce the best.
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Agree Tim....theres no trotter in this hemisphere touching him. Only thing beating Gimpanzee is Sears or himself...if hes on forget about it.
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R9 4/5/10/2/9
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I think the Pellings tag team is gonna gang up on TDS..may still not be enuff but Miller dropped his hands and stopped driving last week when he knew he couldn't win. Don't think hes been fully unleashed and Pelling is great at peaking one.
Papi Rob to win.
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TEATRICK took forever to figure out the head pole was broke,Trace has it all over him
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Jesus Christ TVG is terrible.
Played a split-screen with some garbage Race during Gimpanzee race.
Now Headpole problem and the idiot says the horse is going the wrong way.
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What a dull race,so sad,it is truly a dead game
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That is one tough son of a bitch
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As usual Purple scumbag got made a fool of
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I'm rooting for Shartin..But I don't know if I take Heather bouncing around with her mouth!
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10th - 7 Soho Burning Love A 1,2,4
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I'm rooting for Shartin..But I don't know if I take Heather bouncing around with her mouth!
😀😀😀
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11th - 11 Geez Joe 4,1,6
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4,11/2411/24611/124611/12345611
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4,11/2411/24611/124611/12345611
They didn't do a very good job telling people about the mandatory pay out on the super high five (84k) for this race?????
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Fuck..
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Fuck..
Arrrgh I thought you had it.
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I key the 4 in the hi-5 and dont hit it lol...fkkk didnt use the 2 for 2nd
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Ramona vicious .. good call. Sorella not so much. Hypnotic hung. No question Ramona looks like the best 3 year old trotter in training. Let's see how fast the boys go now.
I POUNDED HER
TONY JUST GETTIN HER TIGHT LAST WEEK
ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN CAN READ A PROGRAM
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TEATRICK took forever to figure out the head pole was broke,Trace has it all over him
POPPI ROB WAS HUGE
TUFF RACE TO LOSE
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Boxing 2/4 here.
Faired pretty well last race - gave out Morgan horse earlier in this thread and combined with hot barn - king.
Changed a bunch of my bets late after king heated up.
50-1 horse may have cost me even more. Had all kinds of p4, p5, p6 going otherwise.
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Looks like the handle will go over 5 million.......
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Looks like the handle will go over 5 million.......
AND
HOW MUCH WILL A PLUMBER COST YOU TO UNPLUG YOUR COMODE. YOU FLUSHED AWAY? OH WAIT, MIND BETTORS DONT PLUG TERLITS
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Factor in form reversal, race time, last quarter time, etc... I have my own thoughts on who had a fullest tank of the night. Interested to see what everyone is thinking about some of the performances tonight.
Thought all King horses were primed for good effort. As you all know, many are of the highest quality but even the mid level ran big.
Tetrick king horse in first was an overlay at @ 12-1 but ran huge. Several I thought raced above my initial estimation - not unusual individually for this barn but they were all firing.
Disappointed Sorella didn't show more. Once Ramona cleared from outside that race was over. Expected Takter filly to show a little more.
Impressed with Gimpanzee and talk dark stranger's toughness.
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HORSE IS JUST A BEAST ONT HE TRACK,,
HOPEFULLY A BEAST IN THE BREEDING SHED
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I saw it in Harness daily racing form during the week but was also suprised more wasn't made of it.
I didn't care for the wagering menu that had a single p5 in first five races and not another multirace wager more than a p3 till the 6th. Last 8 races had two p4's , p5 and p6. I would have one of the p4s to start in 3rd or 4th. Too much overlap in late races makes it questionable for bettor whether to play @ p4, p5 and p6 when one leg could wipe out three major wagers.
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1400 20cent pick 5 cashed in last race if joe B wins with 9 its 27k wow tough way to win an loose!!!!!!!
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That's the one I was thinking of too (Crimson and Crome). She's a really nice mare, but I wasn't thinking 48 flat, last quarter in 25.3. King's barn was closing fast but she stood out the most with that mile to me. Big mile...anxious to see if she keeps getting better. Tall Dark Stranger coming back was unbelievable!
Not that it really matters but Crimson and Chrome is a 4 year old Sweet Lou GELDING owned and bred by Timmy T. and was brought around slowly. Keep him sound and he will make a lot of money for years
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and that is the way it should be
best horses, trainers, drivers and great racing
the big m as it should be
meadows, scioto etc dont matter, for the sport to be anything the big m must rule
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Gimpanzee won last night In a race that could only be compared to the greats. Post 13 and romped... familiar? “He is moving like a tremendous machine”
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Take that post 13
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Haters silent-so Ill post.
The Meadowlands Pace — the premier evening event in North American harness racing so far this year — produced a handle of $5,051,261. That was the most wagered on that card since 2008, and easily ranks as the top harness racing handle of 2020-and thats despite Covid 19 limiting attendance.
tmbz1
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Maybe Luke can confirm but I heard they had to turn people away due to government limitations on capacity
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Haters silent-so Ill post.
The Meadowlands Pace — the premier evening event in North American harness racing so far this year — produced a handle of $5,051,261. That was the most wagered on that card since 2008, and easily ranks as the top harness racing handle of 2020-and thats despite Covid 19 limiting attendance.
tmbz1
Covid has limited attendance across the board and handles are generally way up across the country. Generally speaking, its due to the lack of other forms of entertainment and gambling options.
That $5 number can easily be viewed a failure under these circumstances.
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Thats a great number
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And the track lost their ass off of $5 million
5% is 250,000 --- kick it up a little for on track handle where the return is around 15-18%
Let's be generous and say the the track take was $300,000
To cover Purses --- wages --- maintenance --- utilities --- insurance
As Gural says - everyday we turn the lights on -- we lose money.
YAY --- $5 million tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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And the track lost their ass off of $5 million
5% is 250,000 --- kick it up a little for on track handle where the return is around 15-18%
Let's be generous and say the the track take was $300,000
To cover Purses --- wages --- maintenance --- utilities --- insurance
As Gural says - everyday we turn the lights on -- we lose money.
YAY --- $5 million tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Look at the opportunity that they squandered. It was the perfect storm of no baseball, lack of entertainment and the haskell coat tails.
Consider that handle is at record setting levels in both breeds through the pandemic. Consider monmouth handled a record setting 20mil+ and the cards bled over. monmouth handled more than they did on Pharoah's haskell. How about the hi five carryover must-pay? Did they market that opportunity at all? I didn't see it.
They had a shot to get 7million + and make a few extra bucks. I was shocked at the number that they drew.
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Look at the opportunity that they squandered. It was the perfect storm of no baseball, lack of entertainment and the haskell coat tails.
Consider that handle is at record setting levels in both breeds through the pandemic. Consider monmouth handled a record setting 20mil+ and the cards bled over. monmouth handled more than they did on Pharoah's haskell. How about the hi five carryover must-pay? Did they market that opportunity at all? I didn't see it.
They had a shot to get 7million + and make a few extra bucks. I was shocked at the number that they drew.
But I read on facebook and other sites, people in the industry patting themselves on the back because they did $5 million.....
Now above I covered approximately what the track received for this momentous pile of money they wagered ngc3
But weren't most these races subscription races --- that probably amounted to a little more money getting kicked in..
Total Purses for Saturday == $2,461,950
So people keep patting yourself on the back for a SPLENDID day... Then you realize that those who post about this being great are part of the eyes closed that the industry is getting killed with no other sports or movie theatres or restaurant's at 50% capacity available and this is the best we can do.
Gural probably sat in his office with two fingers of scotch and his shirt untucked saying
FUCK I need real sports back online so they can gamble on them....
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But I read on facebook and other sites, people in the industry patting themselves on the back because they did $5 million.....
Now above I covered approximately what the track received for this momentous pile of money they wagered ngc3
But weren't most these races subscription races --- that probably amounted to a little more money getting kicked in..
Total Purses for Saturday == $2,461,950
So people keep patting yourself on the back for a SPLENDID day... Then you realize that those who post about this being great are part of the eyes closed that the industry is getting killed with no other sports or movie theatres or restaurant's at 50% capacity available and this is the best we can do.
Gural probably sat in his office with two fingers of scotch and his shirt untucked saying
FUCK I need real sports back online so they can gamble on them....
I agree 100%
They will pat themselves on the back and things won't ever get better. Then they will demand money from the state to sustain themselves. Its a bad situation.
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Sports betting coming soon. When they make money will he be increasing purses?
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How much did *** boy get 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
The usual let me help you (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/be/09/a5be098878280f2f8d9542f1346ec389.jpg) 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp