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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: horses first on June 29, 2020, 02:08:22 PM
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I'm sure no hurry as a plan being duel eligible to KY like most of Tony's CT really never race on the smaller PA sire tracks forgoing the Pa SS.
Gaitway today a even mile finishing third in 1:58.3. Will this guy even see a race until he can go in 55 and compete first out? U pay a 1.0m there is only one goal become a stallion. Probably pointed careful to big tracks so time will tell if Maverick is the real deal.
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Nothing spectacular today. Just a easy one. But should of had some more pop at the end.
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yes lets toss him away after his first baby race
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yes lets toss him away after his first baby race
Exactly. Will appeal to a wider market if brought along. OR
HE COULD BE A NICKLE PRICK
LOTS OF EXPENSIVE ONES WERE
AND YOU KNOW IT
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Funny thing is there was no mention of his qualifier before or after in any press. And Tony usually can’t wait to be in the press. Looked pretty ordinary and get blown away by a $12k yearling. If not much better shortly will be in Takter barn
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Tony claiming he ‘may have tied up’
Awaiting blood work
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why you people wishing bad on horses is beyond me
I hope maverick does great tmbz1
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looks like they paid about 1,050,000 too much
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anyone with a financial stake in the industry and living brain cells wants maverick and other high priced yearlings to do well, that will keep real money flowing into the industry when it will certainly need it
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im rooting for him
just giving an accurate price assesment
worth 50 to 60 right now off qualifier
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saying a 2 year old is a toss after 1 qualifier is one of the worst takes possible. so many different variables that not all handle in the same way from different hands behind them, potentially the first time seeing alot of other horses, first time shipping somewhere new, etc. takes some time for some to mentally "get it" no matter their talent level, and sadly, some never do
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why you people wishing bad on horses is beyond me
I hope maverick does great tmbz1
Everything is beyond you, You dumb fuck, Who said anything about bad luck on this horse?
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im think will never race
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Everything is beyond you, You dumb fuck, Who said anything about bad luck on this horse?
You guys are obviously not pals. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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He shipped horse to M1 last 3 weeks to train then Q at farm. With no publicity. Trying to hide? Breakfast with babies back at M1 , no spectators supposed to be at farm. Tony is a POS will put any of you out of business and never think twice
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You should all remember Tactical Landing, and the abuse we took at two. Turned into one of the best purchases ever
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He shipped horse to M1 last 3 weeks to train then Q at farm. With no publicity. Trying to hide? Breakfast with babies back at M1 , no spectators supposed to be at farm. Tony is a POS will put any of you out of business and never think twice
another severly overrated trainer imo
with his stock anyone would do well
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another severly overrated trainer imo
with his stock anyone would do well
I recall after arriving at Takters barn, he would let him relax and come home on his own. Built tremendous confidence as each race showed marked improvement over the last. He had him peaking when it counted. World class job.
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Just watched the replay.
Looked far worse than the chart.
Popped the pocket and came up flat as a board.
Just didn't want to pass amd showed no turn of foot under loose lines.
Dud
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Just watched the replay.
Looked far worse than the chart.
Popped the pocket and came up flat as a board.
Just didn't want to pass amd showed no turn of foot under loose lines.
Dud
Kinda early to tell on this one...it's one race. Contrary to what some say on here, including dead guys, some take a little longer to shine than others. This nonsense of getting rid of them if they don't show early, is misguided horsemanship.
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Not impressed..maybe better 2nd time..but i doubt it...
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It is too early to tell what this horse will end up as but it's doubtful he'll be like big brother. Maybe he should be with that trainer .. not a pacing specialist. Not that Alagna never had a good trotter.. he's just not as good as the French Canadians or Swedes IMO.
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1 qualifier and all the bustouts on the this worthless forum
got opinions ngc3 ngc3....and forecast the horse's entire racing career after 1 go around the track qualifier ngc3 ngc3
joshie K. now gonna learn Anthony alagna about baBies and training them too ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
yes he gets great babies ,,tell him joshie tell him how GOOD u wood do with THEM, ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
LEARN THAT TONY A..HOW ITS DONE ngc3 ngc3 teach Anthony how to winners breeders crown
you taught Anthony mac now teach tony..
ngc3 ngc3 u wood not last 1 day in his barn
..you wood get marchin papers mr owner of grate horses
Anthony don't take shit from nitiwits like yourself
I know your gonna shoulder me now ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I DONT BUY BABIES IM AN ASSTIANT FOOTBALL COACH
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1 qualifier and all the bustouts on the this worthless forum
got opinions ngc3 ngc3....and forecast the horse's entire racing career after 1 go around the track qualifier ngc3 ngc3
joshie K. now gonna learn Anthony alagna about baBies and training them too ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
yes he gets great babies ,,tell him joshie tell him how GOOD u wood do with THEM, ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
LEARN THAT TONY A..HOW ITS DONE ngc3 ngc3 teach Anthony how to winners breeders crown
you taught Anthony mac now teach tony..
ngc3 ngc3 u wood not last 1 day in his barn
..you wood get marchin papers mr owner of grate horses
Anthony don't take shit from nitiwits like yourself
I know your gonna shoulder me now ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I DONT BUY BABIES IM AN ASSTIANT FOOTBALL COACH
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DON'T LET HIM SHOULDER YOU ngc3
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Assistant Football Coach
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It is too early to tell what this horse will end up as but it's doubtful he'll be like big brother. Maybe he should be with that trainer .. not a pacing specialist. Not that Alagna never had a good trotter.. he's just not as good as the French Canadians or Swedes IMO.
my money says he will find his way to takter or melander at some point
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DON'T LET HIM SHOULDER YOU ngc3
hes gonna get shouldrered
how many stable wins u got this year shortcake?
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hes gonna get shouldrered
how many stable wins u got this year shortcake?
Should have taken the bet chicken (AFC ) asst football coach ngc3
Long yr I got a lot of money
U the guy keeps track of others.
Hey AFC.
Did u fire another trainer yet ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
AFC ?
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i would never have a horse with alagna
most overpriced overtated trainer there is so i dont give a damn about "lasting " there
ill let you and your ego care about that stuff
my current 6 trainers would train circles around him
and i have people calling me from around the world asking my opinion on horses
some of the greatest to ever do this
so yes this assistant football coach knows what hes talking about
you wouldnt wouldnt or dont have a twenith of the knowlegdge or info im privey too
get ready for that shoulder
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so.......
how many stable wins?????
0?
zilch?
none?
not 1?
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24 hrs
U wood not last in Tony’s barn
Ervs barn
Burke’s barn
Tasters barn
Ryder’s. Barn
Julie’s barn
Not even 24. Hrs
Mr. The world calling you for advice ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Relax AFC.
NO SALES FOR THREE YRS .. plus bigm sales. On line
Ha ha. No shouldering the midget
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Hey AFC.
CAN WE RE LIVE
THE1000 race u lost from freehold
I gotta go
AFC
REMEMBER 24 hrs.
Not even ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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i would never have a horse with alagna
most overpriced overtated trainer there is so i dont give a damn about "lasting " there
ill let you and your ego care about that stuff
my current 6 trainers would train circles around him
and i have people calling me from around the world asking my opinion on horses
some of the greatest to ever do this
so yes this assistant football coach knows what hes talking about
you wouldnt wouldnt or dont have a twenith of the knowlegdge or info im privey too
get ready for that shoulder
I was all with ya until "I have people from around the world asking my opinions on horses, some of the greatest to ever do this" I HIT THE FUCKIN FLOOR DUDE....
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i have people calling me from around the world asking my opinion on horses
some of the greatest to ever do this
you wouldnt wouldnt or dont have a twenith of the knowlegdge or info im privey too
get ready for that shoulder
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tewnith ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
We ready ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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24 hrs
U wood not last in Tony’s barn
Ervs barn
Burke’s barn
Tasters barn
Ryder’s. Barn
Julie’s barn
Not even 24. Hrs
Mr. The world calling you for advice ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Relax AFC.
NO SALES FOR THREE YRS .. plus bigm sales. On line
Ha ha. No shouldering the midget
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Hey AFC.
CAN WE RE LIVE
THE1000 race u lost from freehold
I gotta go
AFC
REMEMBER 24 hrs.
Not even ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
HE ALREADY HAS 6 TRAINERS 73cv.2
BUT, ERV, JULIE, AND TONY...SHOW THIS GUY HIS FIRST AND LAST TRAINING BILL QUICK
TASTERS BARN? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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so.......
how many stable wins?????
0?
zilch?
none?
not 1?
Yes 4 starts. Only
I’m racing against the best in country with 1
And my other colt is green RACING WELL
And my babies not yet 3 qualifiy this week
Relax AFC
WE GONNA WIN A FEW SOON
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HE ALREADY HAS 6 TRAINERS 73cv.2
BUT, ERV, JULIE, AND TONY...SHOW THIS GUY HIS FIRST AND LAST TRAINING BILL QUICK
TASTERS BARN? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I wood pay 10000000 to see he’s face
From one of those guys monthly bills
He wood be on plops cryin and whining
faster than a NIATROSS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I wood pay 10000000 to see he’s face
From one of those guys monthly bills
He wood be on plops cryin and whining
faster than a NIATROSS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
His horses cant keep up at a dead run?
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soooooo
how many stable wins is it??
0??
and you think the compitition is how long you can last with the highest rate trainers lmao
IM TALKING ABOUT WINNNING RACES AND MAKING PROFIT
your talking about paying people to kiss your ass
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His horses cant keep up at a dead run?
I’m not gonna ruin this thread
With AFC nonsense
I’m wishing
Tony snd maverick
The best
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I get more inside infor about ervs barn and know more about the horses in it than you
and you pay him 10k a month
for 0 wins this year
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2 guys arguing about whose dad left them more money ?
Both guys don’t know shit just regurgitate what others tell them
Both think they are best friends with their big time trainers under performing horses and inflated training bills
I hope I can grow up to be like both of yous
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Hey charm
What up dog
Don’t FCK WITH
AFC
world calling him for answers and advice
THE WORLD. CALL JOSHIE COUGHMAM
FOR ADD VICE ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
AN ASST FOOTBALL COACH ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
THE WORLD ngc3 ngc3
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2 guys arguing about whose dad left them more money ?
Both guys don’t know shit just regurgitate what others tell them
Both think they are best friends with their big time trainers under performing horses and inflated training bills
I hope I can grow up to be like both of yous
you are so clueless
if you only knew
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Hey charm
What up dog
Don’t FCK WITH
AFC
world calling him for answers and advice
THE WORLD. CALL JOSHIE COUGHMAM
FOR ADD VICE ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
AN ASST FOOTBALL COACH ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
THE WORLD ngc3 ngc3
yes
the world
if you only knew
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yes
the world
if you only knew
COLLECT CALLS TO NZ TO FIND OUT HOW BADLY YOUR PARTNERSHIP GOT SWINDLED DONT COUNT
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its australia calling me...
not nz
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its australia calling me...
not nz
I HEARD IT IS ALWAYS COLLECT AND THEY ARE ASHAMED TO GIVE YOU A PRICE SINCE YOU CANT FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.
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Hey charm
What up dog
Don’t FCK WITH
AFC
world calling him for answers and advice
THE WORLD. CALL JOSHIE COUGHMAM
FOR ADD VICE ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
AN ASST FOOTBALL COACH ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
THE WORLD ngc3 ngc3
I’d call sleepy joe Biden for advice b4 anybody on this worthless forum
Fuck football the kneelers ruined it for me I’ll never watch again
Football is worse than dog racing
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I’d call sleepy joe Biden for advice b4 anybody on this worthless forum
Fuck football the kneelers ruined it for me I’ll never watch again
Football is worse than dog racing
ty for showing me your true self
i feel better because i dont care abiyt the opinions of people like u
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ty for showing me your true self
i feel better because i dont care abiyt the opinions of people like u
Really ur gonna get but hurt over horseplop
I can’t even take life seriously let alone this worthless forum
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yeah that alagne sucks
just wins grand circuit and breeders crown races
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Purple employs better trainers
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its australia calling me...
not nz
Want you to be HEAD COACH FOR
Pee wee football team ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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yeah that alagne sucks
just wins grand circuit and breeders crown races
Yes he’s terrible
Meanwhile AFC. can learn him harness racing
Fvkin AFC. complete. PIGEON
WORLD CALLING AFC.
FOR IDEAS ON PEE WEE FOOTBALL ngc3 ngc3
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yeah that alagne sucks
just wins grand circuit and breeders crown races
so would anyone given his stock
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Purple employs better trainers
ALL 6 OF THEM tmbz1
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so would anyone given his stock
Don’t be jelly AFC
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yeah right
the good ones dont need to be trained, they just stand in the stall and roll out and win
yet you now say maverick is finished and worth $50 k
is that alagna or the horse
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You should all remember Tactical Landing, and the abuse we took at two. Turned into one of the best purchases ever
Only took 2.5 years for you to send him to Takter. Stewart would of never been trained if his brother wasn’t involved
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I recall after arriving at Takters barn, he would let him relax and come home on his own. Built tremendous confidence as each race showed marked improvement over the last. He had him peaking when it counted. World class job.
I agree
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yeah right
the good ones dont need to be trained, they just stand in the stall and roll out and win
yet you now say maverick is finished and worth $50 k
is that alagna or the horse
would you like to make a bet the horse doesnt earn 50k this year?
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They should move him to Melander. He has all those international cross bred fillies. Maybe training with them would wake up his testosterone and he'd stud up ngc3
Hanging around with hot Euro babes would probably do all of us some good ;D ;D
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They should move him to Melander. He has all those international cross bred fillies. Maybe training with them would wake up his testosterone and he'd stud up ngc3
Hanging around with hot Euro babes would probably do all of us some good ;D ;D
it seems the melander groom stock is down this year...
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Robert Krivelin parked him this morning in a qualifier, when was the last time you saw someone park a huge yearling priced animal in a qualifier?
then Maverick broke
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Go. to the Meadowlands web page and watch the replay of race 3
Maverick didn't leave...came 1st over in a slow quarter....Krivel in's horse grabbed on a bit and Maverick went back in the hole.
Going to 3/4 pole Krivelins horse drifted out...Maverick went up the inside...was in no difficulty and trotting clear to be 2nd....when he jumped it off under no pressure
they were not going that fast
Still work to do to get him rigged correctly
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hopefully maverick pics his game
I have confidence in tony a
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great trainer ,,Christian,,and a family guy
horse mite need to be turned out till next yr..
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Yimmy, Yimmy. Where are you . Maverick needs your help
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Yimmy, Yimmy. Where are you . Maverick needs your help
Yimmy is too busy catch driving
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Just watched the replay. Maverick has 2 head poles on. Clearly he has some issues. I’m betting we don’t see him till next season.
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ah yes trotters
they are a puzzle
brothers are not always carbon copies of each other
best to own the first one
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buying brothers and sisters of champs usually get u to the poor house very fast
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buying brothers and sisters of champs usually get u to the poor house very fast
tmbz1
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maybe they should nerve both front feet and keep it a secret.... INTEGRITY..
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maybe they should nerve both front feet and keep it a secret.... INTEGRITY..
Nothing will help this horse aside from gelding him which he will not do. I noticed from the first start that Maverick will not pass horses. In his second start he got a 2 hole trip and when the driver pulled the right line he had to dive back in twice because the horse came off the bit. The horse is not a player. He doesn't like the game. No way to tell that at a yearling sale. In my last post on Maverick ( which seems to have vanished ) I predicted that he will start breaking and that is exactly what he did. It's only a matter of time to figure out the pattern. There is nothing lame about this horse. He goes like a monster and looks like a monster but he has no interest in racing. Just breed him and spare yourself the humiliation. Bad news is that this kind of attitude ie very heavily inherited but you can geld his kids. You cannot geld him. He will resell for about 400gs for breeding, That's a loss of about 1 million, and it sucks because Maverick is far better gaited and better looking than his brother.
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They do lose money by buying overpriced stock most of the time. But for the ones that buy those kind of horses a cool mil is like a franklin to most of us. Chump Change.
The horse ownership business is not kind to the 99%
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when you pay that much your chances of breaking even are low
everything has to go perfectly to even get close
having said that the owners also have many horses they buy at more modest amounts that make decent money so no worries from a cash end
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No way Tony lets him out of his barn, stupid to take the horse no upside, if he is good - he was bred to be good and if bad - the trainer is an idiot. How many time have you seen this same scenario. It will be excuse time, big colt, colt sore or some bizarre mysterious problem. He will never say a negative word about this horse. With the many people who are in on him, the pain will be spread out, not like Cancelliere. He took the 825,000 ass kicking on Detour Hanover. Ya don´t see any of these guys go out on a limb like that.
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buying brothers and sisters of champs usually get u to the poor house very fast
George Washington had a brother too.
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So did Mickey Mantle and he was a butcher
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Standing stud, got a mark of 1:50.2 and made 812,300. They got some of their money back. Waited to long to pull plug with Bobby Stewart, good trainer but couldn´t figure him out.
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That tactical landing horse doing much?
Won a heat of Hambo maybe? Set up nicely for the contest with a few good miles under him, but after that, he was done.
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So did Mickey Mantle and he was a butcher
MY UNCLE WAS BUTCHER ;D
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They do lose money by buying overpriced stock most of the time. But for the ones that buy those kind of horses a cool mil is like a franklin to most of us. Chump Change.
The horse ownership business is not kind to the 99%
Agrred! And besides that no one in harness racing can afford to lose $1,000,000 No one in harness racing has any real money to chance. There are a lot of angry people right now. This is a stinker because mathematically it's impossible for a horse to earn back that kind of money. No harness yearling is worth more than $50,000. Anything above that is a shot in the dark. Like I said, the horse looks great and goes great but he has no heart. It's the easiest thing to spot. There is nothing wrong with him. He is just a top tier roach. No way around that.
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Maverick will be lightly raced until Lexington, he will rip out a big trip there & turned out
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There are dozens of people and organizations who can afford to throw away millions on horseflesh, Maverick was purchased on potential stud value. As long as he showed speed if he made money on the track it's a bonus.
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Agrred! And besides that no one in harness racing can afford to lose $1,000,000 No one in harness racing has any real money to chance. There are a lot of angry people right now. This is a stinker because mathematically it's impossible for a horse to earn back that kind of money. No harness yearling is worth more than $50,000. Anything above that is a shot in the dark. Like I said, the horse looks great and goes great but he has no heart. It's the easiest thing to spot. There is nothing wrong with him. He is just a top tier roach. No way around that.
Are you serious Brad Grant’s company makes somewhere around $800k a week. Let alone the other players involved
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so far Maverick (1.1 million) and Damien (1 million) have both failed to earn a check this year
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need to find me some with holes in their pockets. could use a few nice things. tmbz1
Idiots. Tactical Landing was syndicated for 10 times his purchase price as a stallion
Best buy ever
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Idiots. Tactical Landing was syndicated for 10 times his purchase price as a stallion
Best buy ever
If only you were the real Taylor
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Idiots. Tactical Landing was syndicated for 10 times his purchase price as a stallion
Best buy ever
Tactical landing was a work in progress with every start. You could see this horse get more confident under the expert handling of Tackter. I would have loved to see him race as an older horse.
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George Washington had a brother too.
General WASHINGTON the harness driver?
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General WASHINGTON the harness driver?
ngc3
NO WASHINGTON REDSKINS
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Idiots. Tactical Landing was syndicated for 10 times his purchase price as a stallion
Best buy ever
Look at you.
Howie "10%" Taylor taking a victory lap for decisions he had zero to do with making.
How are your fellow scumbags, the Crawfords, doing? They're going to need areal attorney when those indictments hit, no?
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Look at you.
Howie "10%" Taylor taking a victory lap for decisions he had zero to do with making.
How are your fellow scumbags, the Crawfords, doing? They're going to need areal attorney when those indictments hit, no?
The odds of him being Howard Taylor are the same as you being black.
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The odds of him being Howard Taylor are the same as you being black.
100% both.
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qualifying again Saturday morning at the swamp along with other big money purchases
race 4 Maverick
race 5 Damien (the other million)
race 6 One Eight Hundred
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They made a joke out of the pacing colt's name. He sold as Some Terror but since they paid 800,000 for him they renamed him One Eight Hundred.
Hope he's worth it .. the other two aren't contributing at the moment.
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Mission brief also with a offspring in to go
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Mission brief also with a offspring in to go
you're correct, sorry I missed that one!
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Looked very good in his qualifer. came first over after sitting third to win by a couple in 58.
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Still a very ordinary qualifier especially when you compare it to Mission Brief's filly Adiriondack .. that one broke off the first turn lost at least 15 lengths and came back to finish 2nd pretty much on her own.
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Nice mile if it was June. 158 at the meadowlands in August is at best below average.
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unimpressive but better than last week
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In to go at The Red MIle check out "the hands" that will do the driving ???
MAVERICK is entered on Monday 08/17/20 at The Red Mile
Race #: 2 Program #: 2 Post Position: 2 M/L Odds: 8/1
Post Time: 1:19 ET Dist: 1 Gait: TROT Purse: $5,000
Race Conditions: TWO YEAR OLDS (POST POSITIONS DRAWN BY EXT PM WINS)
Driver: Bongiorno, Joe Trainer: Alagna, Tony
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In to go at The Red MIle check out "the hands" that will do the driving ???
MAVERICK is entered on Monday 08/17/20 at The Red Mile
Race #: 2 Program #: 2 Post Position: 2 M/L Odds: 8/1
Post Time: 1:19 ET Dist: 1 Gait: TROT Purse: $5,000
Race Conditions: TWO YEAR OLDS (POST POSITIONS DRAWN BY EXT PM WINS)
Driver: Bongiorno, Joe Trainer: Alagna, Tony
3/5 he runs. Joe can’t drive a trotter. Just goes to show you what Andy McCarthy thinks of him.
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$5,000 race, interesting
it's like a paid qualifier
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Built in excuse, cement hands! Let´s see if he trys to club him like the rest of his drives. Agree 3/5 he tips over and runs like a deer.
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A paid qualifier how many qualifier's does a horse need? That ship has sailed it's into the pool and looks like they are opting for the shallow end.
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Make that shallow end with floaties on
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"Hey Brad Grant, this is Tony Alagna. You know that colt you paid $1.1 mln for. Well, I am going to have Jumpin' Joe Bongiorno drive him. Brad, are you still there??"
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Tony - this is Brad Grant what the fuck are you thinking, that kid is poison on anything but a push button horse with a ton of gas, that has hopples on. You already have cut his value down to nothing, a Q record of 58, even if he beats this group of tomato cans, so what. Shut him down before he looks worse.
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Brad Grant ..... I am so fucking lucky my old man left me a phenomenal business to build upon, creating a large fortune, because if I had of started with a small fortune, horses would have put me in the poor house by now.
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that kid is poison on anything but a push button horse with a ton of gas, that has hopples on. .
Jumpin Joe went to Red Mile today to drive 3 horses all trotters. 1 win (thanks to the spirit of queen bea ngc3 ) and 2 seconds .. Purse money won $40,000
In the past year although like everyone else he has driven 4 to 5 times more pacers than trotters He actually has a higher win % and a higher UDR on trotters than he does on pacers.
Just sayin
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Maverick racing now red mile157:2 winner
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only 439 more wins for $5,000 purses like he won today and they will earn back the 1.1 million, not counting expenses
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only 439 more wins for $5,000 purses like he won today and they will earn back the 1.1 million, not counting expenses
fold your fckin hands asshole and stfu
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horse did very well first time out...
wishing anthony and all connections the BEST on this colt tmbz1
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Roc come on, I never want to see people lose money in the game. But these guys are never getting out with this horse. Kept throwing his head warming up. Was on his hands and knees to beat tomato cans. Breeding goodluck
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HE BEAT A NICE BUNCH OF 6 CLAIMERS TODAY
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Clueless people .. He wasn't bought to make money on the track although that was certainly a hope. His brother stands for 25,000 and his first offering was sold out. I don't know how many he is limited to but if he only gets 100 mares a year thats 2.5 mil per year, and that doesn't even count the overseas possibilities if they deal in frozen semen.
If this horse stands for 5,000 in somewhere like Ohio or Indiana when he's done that's a half mil per year with those same low numbers. He could retire tomorrow undefeated with a fake injury and be syndicated for more than what they paid.
A upfront million to the people who own this horse (Maverick Racing Partnership ) is pennies to the average person.
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The wishful thinking of standing a stallion on the merits of his full brother is a plan for disaster. I doubt that plan ever entered the owners mind. Mavarick needs make his bones on the track before he sells his super sperm.
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AGREED Detour Hanover?
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Good win today.maybe one more start or not , then shut down. Come back bigger stronger next yr. Happens all the time with trotters. Hopefully can race to his pedagree next yr. Tony can get it done
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Beautiful animal.
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Winner winner can stand in IN replacing Whom Shall I fear for 3,500.
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fold your fckin hands asshole and stfu
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horse did very well first time out...
wishing anthony and all connections the BEST on this colt tmbz1
Lucpark,
I was unimpressed with his start and I would like to add the following qualifiers to it:
1) he won in 1.57.2 with a last quarter in 28.3 while the Love You colt was gaining on him late
2) the 4th race winner in NW $1,000 last 4 starts was a 10 year old Master Glide who won in 1.57 flat
3) the 8th race trot, NW $2,000 last 4 won in 1.55.4
I'm not allowed to say what I think about him?
They didn't put him in a sire or other stakes race for a reason. He just may not be that good. It happens to many high riced animals. Ever hear of The Green Monkey? Never won, wasn't much of a stallion and died relatively young.
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Let him grow ip. Hambo next yr.
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Stays in the same class today @ The Red Mile (5k purse), in race 12 from the 5 hole he is the 2-1 morning line favorite in a 7 horse field.
My guess is if he wins again they might try one of the tougher 2 year old races next week, with a 20k or 40k purse?????
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not sure what to think after that - ??
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he was not that good today, 4th
you don't want a 4th place finish in a $5,000 race with a 1.1 million yearling
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Very, very average run.
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Maybe Joe B knows the secret
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What is a 57 trotter worth,not 1.1mil. trotted same for Andy as he did for joeyb. no secret, he seems to be what he is, a good looking 57 trotter.
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JUST PLAIN AWFUL TODAY
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=maverick+by+father+patrick+designed+to+be#id=1&vid=e0e093adc9a6d5f0eb115ccaeb1792d1&action=click
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Sales are what they are credits, farm run up's, pre made deals, and deep pockets chasing deep pockets. Maverick was a pre arranged deal with all the hoopla prior to the sale of a million dollar purchase. I'm sure there were enough fantasy bids on the way up and Tony only raised his hand 3 times. Full/half brothers and sisters have taken a lot of deep pocketed owners to the woodshed.
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Sales are what they are credits, farm run up's, pre made deals, and deep pockets chasing deep pockets. Maverick was a pre arranged deal with all the hoopla prior to the sale of a million dollar purchase. I'm sure there were enough fantasy bids on the way up and Tony only raised his hand 3 times. Full/half brothers and sisters have taken a lot of deep pocketed owners to the woodshed.
yep
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Whoever is in, likely knew the risks involved. They also likely in for the duration, unless a Charlie Tuna comes along.
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we know who is in, not a secret and yes they have very deep pockets but it will still hurt
and yeah full brothers, that fella gretzky had a few as well, ever heard of them ??
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I am sure that the owners were thinking that they would get their money back on the horses breeding whether they keep him and stand him stud or sell him overseas. If he does better on the track, that will be a bonus (like Tactical Landing).
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1.1 m ,,, you are looking for a stallion
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1.1 m ,,, you are looking for a stallion
I am sure their intentions are to race and make a lot of money. The stallion part is something for them to fall back on if he does mediocre (like so far).
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They would never get even on racing alone,,,stop it
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The ownership group and others are prolly guilty of the presale hype and pre sale deals. It still has nothing to do with the horses ability. It reminds me of a couple years ago with Tactical Landing. He had 2 starts as a 2 year old and broke inn both. He did have a winning Q in 1:57, staying flat.
Tactical Landing got a barn change for his 3 yr. old campaign to Jimmy Tackter's barn. Yimmy took his time in getting Tactical this impeccably bred trotting machine, the confidence and speed needed to develop into an ultra impressive trotter. Each start, Yimmy treated it as a schooling and a race. It was one of the greatest applications of horsemanship I have ever seen. I don't feel he hit his best before retiring but, that can be said for many.
Perhaps Maverick will be one of the same. I sure hope so . It would be nothing short of inspiring for all of harness racing.
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Tony ain´t Yimmy, never will be. Just remember Peck trained Muscle Hill, proves anyone can have a great horse, an entirely different song taking Tactical Landing and ¨fix¨ him. Does anybody think Tony will let that happen to him that horse will be there his entire racing career. Bobby Stewart took it like a man and did what was best for the horse. No way Tony does. JMO
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Totally agree
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Too much money over common sense. I bet I could buy 10 yearlings at $110,00 average and have a much better chance than them. Most of you on here could do the same.
Now when I think of successful brothers, there were 3 of them. Angus Hall, Conway Hall and Andover Hall. They all won between 800 and 900,000 like 20 years ago and have all had great stud careers. Speaking of Andover Hall. If I was purchasing yearlings, Every yearling would be out of an Andover Hall mare.
Also, there needs to be more Ready Cash and Love You yearlings. That is the future of trotting here IMO. They take a bit more time to develop but you will get trotters running 1:48 when they mature.
Ready For Moni will end up being way better than Ramona Hill next year. BOOK IT.
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Totally agree
I was not aware Tony has controlling interest in this colt.
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He doesn’t but they treat Tony’s word as gospel