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Title: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: PIGLAND on May 21, 2020, 09:13:42 PM
race for $300 or wait til slots open
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: LUCPARK on May 21, 2020, 09:19:43 PM
race for $300 or wait til slots open

ALL TRACKS PURSE WILL BE DOWN

LOOK AT NORTHFIELD
OPENS 13K

SCIOTO OPENS  18K
USED TO BE 25K,,

IT IS WHAT IT IS,.,

GURAL AND  VERNON DOWNS

PURSES IN THE SAME AREA AS

MONTICELLO AND FREEHOLD OF OLD DAYS
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: trottingstud on May 21, 2020, 09:21:07 PM
Gural wrote letter qualifiers at Tioga June 1 and 3 and race Sunday June 7th. Vernon qualify June 2 and 4. Race Wednesday June 10. Expects purses to be the same as last year to start at both tracks due to money in purse account. Has money from before they were shut down.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: PIGLAND on May 21, 2020, 09:43:29 PM
yonkers and saratoga dont seem to want to open up yet
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: PIGLAND on May 21, 2020, 09:45:05 PM
Gural wrote letter qualifiers at Tioga June 1 and 3 and race Sunday June 7th. Vernon qualify June 2 and 4. Race Wednesday June 10. Expects purses to be the same as last year to start at both tracks due to money in purse account. Has money from before they were shut down.
vernon has money for 2 weeks
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on May 21, 2020, 10:06:03 PM
Vernon is in better shape than me,I am eating grilt cheese
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Dingus on May 21, 2020, 10:08:27 PM
Gural wrote letter qualifiers at Tioga June 1 and 3 and race Sunday June 7th. Vernon qualify June 2 and 4. Race Wednesday June 10. Expects purses to be the same as last year to start at both tracks due to money in purse account. Has money from before they were shut down.

Right.
The casino ran for 6 months after racing ended in September at Tioga.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: NJ The best on May 21, 2020, 11:09:32 PM
Tioga has 40 race dates same as last year . If they race sire stakes how many overnight races will there be ?
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: PIGLAND on May 22, 2020, 07:23:39 AM
Vernon is in better shape than me,I am eating grilt cheese
love grilt cheese , you have a great memory
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: PIGLAND on May 22, 2020, 07:25:28 AM
Pig, Saratoga is opening up on June 7th..purses will be 25%-30% less, probably the latter. I know a lot of horsemen personally, and these guys will gladly sign up for this decrease at this time..I think all horsemen would sign up for that decrease, at this point
agree they would like to race for 30% less purse money . but how about 90% if no slot welfare?
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: HornbyDuke on May 22, 2020, 09:47:47 AM
YONKERS 2 DAYS A WEEK

45% PURSE DECREASE

UNTIL CASINO OPENS


Hell hardly worth the effort required to jab the needle in.  73cv.2

Local paper in Albany was anticipating in yesterday's edition that State affiliated casinos might reopen in late June.

A few native American casinos already open in ny.

We'll see. From what I be reading  ngc3, danger of serious co-19 is increased in indoor settings with a lot of people present. It seems the amount of viral load may be a factor in how acute virus impacts.

I'm staying away for awhile.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: jupiter on May 22, 2020, 02:31:24 PM
Most horseman will race for anything, they are starving.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 22, 2020, 07:59:59 PM
SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD DEAL AT THE TIME
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on May 22, 2020, 09:21:55 PM
God Bless you Mr. Dalrae  tmbz1
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 22, 2020, 09:32:52 PM
God Bless you Mr. Dalrae  tmbz1




Enough with the "god bless" bullshit, you fucking creep.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: NJ The best on May 22, 2020, 10:37:37 PM
Show me a condition sheet for any north east track .
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: LUCPARK on May 22, 2020, 11:05:54 PM



Enough with the "god bless" bullshit, you fucking creep.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1 tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Parked on May 23, 2020, 07:35:32 AM
Show me a condition sheet for any north east track .

Just look up one from ladt year, nothing will change but the purses... 
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on May 23, 2020, 09:36:09 AM
Pig, Saratoga is opening up on June 7th..purses will be 25%-30% less, probably the latter. I know a lot of horsemen personally, and these guys will gladly sign up for this decrease at this time..I think all horsemen would sign up for that decrease, at this point

Cuomo not opening casinos(racinos) for awhile.  Saratoga handle gets them about 5,000 for purses.   The actual cuts are going to be huge.   Horsemen destroyed their own sport so there is no fan base to keep them going.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: NJ The best on May 23, 2020, 01:37:23 PM
Still no condition sheets of any kind .
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: trottingstud on May 23, 2020, 01:56:54 PM
Most NY tracks will have qualifiers first and they can't have them until June 1st when tracks are allowed to open. Tioga planning on qualifiers June 1st and 3rd with first racing card June 7th. Vernon qualifiers June 2nd and 4th with first race day June 10th. Other tracks probably doing something similar. Way too early to see a condition sheet. And those dates still need approval from state.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Fatboy on May 23, 2020, 05:59:57 PM



Enough with the "god bless" bullshit, you fucking creep.

 ngc3
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: NJ The best on May 23, 2020, 07:26:23 PM
Wonder if the lady who rides the horse with the flag will be coming back ?
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: In front on May 23, 2020, 10:01:50 PM
They don’t need purse money, races will be 100% crooked
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: trottingstud on May 24, 2020, 05:57:11 AM
VERNON — Vernon Downs will start harness racing again on June 2 with qualifying races, if all goes to plan, according to owner Jeff Gural.

Vernon Downs Casino Hotel has been closed due to COVID-19, but there is a plan in place to get back to racing, Gural said by phone Friday.

About half the trainers and drivers at Vernon Downs live locally, while the other half are mostly in Florida, Gural noted. While those who are out of town tend to return in early May, that was not the case this year. There is practicing at the track now, and soon there should be racing.

“Financially it’s been a disaster,” Gural said of the impact of the pandemic on business. “The bulk of our employees are on furlough” and are receiving unemployment. Vernon Downs, he noted, has continued to provide health insurance to its employees. “Our key people have been on staff, and we’ve hired back a bunch of people,” he said, for racing and renovating the hotel.

Gural said the plan is to start with “qualifying races on June 2 and 4, and start racing on June 10.” The initial schedule will likely be Wednesday and Thursday racing at 4 p.m. in June. It might eventually switch to Thursday and Saturday. Racing will initially be without fans in attendance, though there will be betting by mobile device.

“It will take a little bit of time to adjust,” Gural said of learning how to manage such things as masks and social distancing for those involved.

“We have to be careful. We don’t want anyone to get sick,” He said employees will likely be tested by the company.

The lack of sports might even be a boon to racing at Vernon Downs, Gural said. “I think it helps, not having the competition that we usually have with other sports. We’re hoping that people will tune in and watch more racing.”

Though racing is going to restart, Gural noted, “We’re not going to have as many races as we usually do.” The season will likely end in early November, though that is based on an estimate about how much purse money will be available. “We will still have all the Stakes races we were going to have, maybe even more because some tracks don’t want Stakes races.”
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Larrylou32 on May 24, 2020, 07:34:49 AM
ALL TRACKS PURSE WILL BE DOWN

LOOK AT NORTHFIELD
OPENS 13K

SCIOTO OPENS  18K
USED TO BE 25K,,

IT IS WHAT IT IS,.,

All purses will be down huge

GURAL AND  VERNON DOWNS

PURSES IN THE SAME AREA AS

MONTICELLO AND FREEHOLD OF OLD DAYS
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: NJ The best on May 24, 2020, 10:18:38 AM
How could anyone know anything about purses at the New York tracks ? How many overnight races ? Need a condition sheet to see .
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: JOHN FRANK on May 24, 2020, 12:27:51 PM
NO one goin to CASINNNOES. The state going to sell MASKS to support. JOHN FRANK ARMY has only 5 95's left.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: PIGLAND on May 24, 2020, 03:28:06 PM
democrates ruined ny racing
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: jupiter on May 24, 2020, 04:27:18 PM
horseman ruined NY racing.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: PIGLAND on May 24, 2020, 05:48:47 PM
horseman ruined NY racing.
my bag
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Gregory Rich on May 25, 2020, 02:08:26 AM
NY racing ruined by racetracks not giving a shit, drivers not giving the bettors a fair shake, speed favoring half mile tracks. But the state is most responsible having inept, clueless racing officials and useless testing program.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: trottingstud on May 25, 2020, 01:29:35 PM

TIOGA and VERNON DOWNS UPDATE

Nichols, NY - Live harness racing will come to both Tioga and Vernon Downs the beginning of June with qualifiers the first week and live racing the next.

Following the orders of Governor Cuomo, racing will get underway on the first day permitted with qualifying races held and Tioga on Monday, June 1 and again on Wednesday, June 3. At Vernon qualifiers will be on Tuesday, June 2 and Friday, June 5.

Live racing will kick off on Sunday, June 7 at Tioga and follow a Sunday - Monday schedule with a post time of 4:00 PM for all cards throughout the month of June with no live crowd and only remote wagering.

The first stakes to be raced at Tioga will be the NYSS 3YO Colt Pace, Roll With Joe Open Pace and a Graduate Series. All will remain on the originally scheduled date of Sunday, June 14.

Vernon will race on Wednesday, June 10 and Thursday, June 11 at 4:00 PM continuing that schedule and the no live attendance policy for the month as well. New York Sires Stakes will be raced at Vernon and we will post that schedule as soon as it becomes available.

With the large number of horses that we expect to enter qualifiers this week we ask that if your horse is currently qualified to race that you do not enter that horse to qualify.

Entries for the qualifiers will close at 10:00 AM the previous day. The qualifying overnight sheet will instruct horse people where each horse will be stabled/held until they race either in the paddock or designated area for ship ins.

Pertinent information on protocol the state will require to participate at both tracks will be made available on the track websites in the "Horsemen" section. Please read and become familiar with the details and come prepared to follow the conditions as written.

All persons entering the property at both tracks will be required to fill out a questionnaire and submit to a temperature check before entering the stable gate and if deemed a risk will be turned away. Once on the grounds you are required to wear face coverings at all times and gloves when practical, maintain social distancing, keep to a minimum number of people in the paddock and minimal contact with others while on the grounds.

Only those horses ages three and up that are stabled on the grounds (including local farms designated by management) at each track or eligible to the NYSS will be accepted to qualify and race at Tioga and Vernon for the time being. Two-year-olds will be accepted for week two of qualifiers.

Horses shipping in will be required to stable in the designated area and leave the grounds as soon as possible after qualifying or racing.

Please keep the warming up to a minimum and keep a distance from others when on the track both warming up and scoring.

Catch-Drivers will have no contact with the handlers of the horses and will wait in their car in a designated parking area with no contact among themselves.They will pick up their mounts on the way to the track. Trainers that drive their own horses and have been working in the stables may participate in the preparation of the horses.

It is strongly recommended that you sign up for Meadowlands, Tioga & Vernon mass text service as a lot of important information will be disseminated via text. To sign up, text the word "MEADOWLANDS" to the number 84700 on your mobile device. You may be required to respond "YES" if you receive a request for response.

We need everyone to adhere to protocol exactly as required by the state. It is imperative that we do everything they ask to the very best of our ability so that we may continue to race. Enduring this temporary inconvenience is what must be done to get back to what we need to do and eventual easing of these restrictions.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Superfecta on May 25, 2020, 04:21:32 PM
And the testing programs are not useless..but when you got your "urine catchers" throwing partially caught piss on the ground, so they get "blooded" because they wanna get to there favorite eatery...what can I do???

The testing programs ARE useless. Positive tests are always swept under the rug.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Dingus on May 25, 2020, 04:42:29 PM
At least they are finally running on different days, so if you don’t get in at 1 track, you can enter at the other.
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Dingus on May 25, 2020, 04:57:35 PM
Good point, Dingus, BTW, you’re first name wouldn’t be Harry, would it?

Not Harry, lol
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: Here they come on May 25, 2020, 04:59:38 PM
So, tioga opens on June 7th. Vernon on the 10th, why nothing from Yonkers??
Title: Re: new york harness racing is broke till slots open
Post by: NJ The best on May 26, 2020, 08:44:12 AM
And the king of all tracks the meadowlands still has no answer from the Governor. Gural and company thought it was a foregone conclusion they would have the green light last week for next week racing . Hopefully they get it this week .
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