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Title: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: whiptherabbit on March 27, 2020, 06:27:52 AM
If they get wiped out this year, will they double the purses next year for three year olds, or finally do 3/4 year old stakes races?
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Parked on March 27, 2020, 06:53:59 AM
Way to soon to start talking about that, especially with the state SS. They start too early now. Start them in August and they would be over before Oct.   some choices would have to be made between SS and Grand Circuit but so be it.  If they go cancelling stake races the yearling sales will crash. 
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Racing Troll on March 27, 2020, 07:09:47 AM
 HOW GREEDY CAN THIS INDUSTRY BE?  SOUND JUST LIKE DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS, ALWAYS BLAMING  OTHERS FOR THEIR STATES AND THEIR OWN SHORTCOMINGS I.E CUOMO, GRETCHEN, ,MURPHY, NEWSOME, PRITZKER ALL GOT THEIR FINGERS POINTING

TAKE YOUR FEDERAL CHECK AND LIVE LIKE THE REST OF THE POPULATION
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: NJ The best on March 27, 2020, 10:17:09 AM
Early New York Sire Stakes seems quite doubtful
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on March 27, 2020, 10:24:38 AM
STEAKS  ;D tmbz1
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: dinkadoo on March 27, 2020, 10:41:13 AM
lot of the sires program and big stake program is funded by casino's   

which are shut down. No Ding Ding Ding will result in less money turned over to racing.
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on March 27, 2020, 10:52:31 AM
Way to soon to start talking about that, especially with the state SS. They start too early now. Start them in August and they would be over before Oct.   some choices would have to be made between SS and Grand Circuit but so be it.  If they go cancelling stake races the yearling sales will crash.

NOT TO EARLY, THERE IS NO CHANCE OF IT THIS YEAR.   THIS VIRUS HASNT EVEN POPPED THE PLUGS YET AND IS RUNNING ON EPO.   WOULD WIN IF THEY WENT AROUND AGAIN.   
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Parked on March 27, 2020, 11:41:08 AM
All the media is showing is total cases. What % is over and done out ot that number ? 
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Brown jug on March 27, 2020, 11:48:49 AM
if they do not run them in 2020, would certainly like to see them just renamed and run as 4 yr olds,  so in 2021 you would have stakes  for 2 , 3, 4 yr olds specifically in addition to the aged stakes
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: LUCPARK on March 27, 2020, 12:13:54 PM
if they do not run them in 2020, would certainly like to see them just renamed and run as 4 yr olds,  so in 2021 you would have stakes  for 2 , 3, 4 yr olds specifically in addition to the aged stakes

NO IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT

ITS JUST CALLED ONE OF THE YRS,,

AND OWNERS LOSE ,BUT GET THEIR STAKE PAYMENTS RETURNED

WILL HURT ,,PA AND NY BREEDERS THE MOST I THINK
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Parked on March 27, 2020, 02:00:26 PM
NYRA says season at Saratoga will open as scheduled. 
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: hoosierboy on March 27, 2020, 04:06:02 PM
If they get wiped out this year, will they double the purses next year for three year olds, or finally do 3/4 year old stakes races?

It’s not going to be canceled
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Brown jug on March 27, 2020, 06:29:37 PM
no one knows when(despite trumps april 12 date) but the world will need to start to edge back outside when it is safe including harness racing
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Dr. O on March 28, 2020, 02:27:20 PM
Most stakes will likely race. Conflict between grand circuit and local sire stakes very likely now due to diminishing days to race. Not sure why Cal Expo the only track racing. Races can be conducted with minimal risk by limiting personnel and using multiple barns to race out of. No public. No owners. Only grooms, drivers, trainers and race officials. Would keep people and businesses employed as well as owners solvent.  Captive audience with simulcasting due to limited racing opportunities to wager on.  If you have horseman and horses stabled on grounds and training, then you can have racing.  No reason to further economically decimate this industry and those that rely on it for a living.
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Racing Troll on March 28, 2020, 03:03:34 PM
Most stakes will likely race. Conflict between grand circuit and local sire stakes very likely now due to diminishing days to race. Not sure why Cal Expo the only track racing. Races can be conducted with minimal risk by limiting personnel and using multiple barns to race out of. No public. No owners. Only grooms, drivers, trainers and race officials. Would keep people and businesses employed as well as owners solvent.  Captive audience with simulcasting due to limited racing opportunities to wager on.  If you have horseman and horses stabled on grounds and training, then you can have racing.  No reason to further economically decimate this industry and those that rely on it for a living.


since when does whorse racing become an essential occupation?
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: LUCPARK on March 28, 2020, 03:04:16 PM

since when does whorse racing become an essential occupation?

IT IS PROVIDES LOTS OF JOBS FOR ILLEGALS AND HELPS FEED LOTS OF FAMILES IN MEXICO AND GUADAMALA tmbz1
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: carl baldwin on March 28, 2020, 03:37:39 PM
All the media is showing is total cases. What % is over and done out ot that number ?
More than 82,000 have recovered.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/487280-nearly-70000-people-have-recovered-from
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Fatboy on March 28, 2020, 04:51:31 PM
More than 82,000 have recovered.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/487280-nearly-70000-people-have-recovered-from

Recovery number much higher according to Johns Hopkins medical website:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on March 28, 2020, 05:03:47 PM
Most stakes will likely race. Conflict between grand circuit and local sire stakes very likely now due to diminishing days to race. Not sure why Cal Expo the only track racing. Races can be conducted with minimal risk by limiting personnel and using multiple barns to race out of. No public. No owners. Only grooms, drivers, trainers and race officials. Would keep people and businesses employed as well as owners solvent.  Captive audience with simulcasting due to limited racing opportunities to wager on.  If you have horseman and horses stabled on grounds and training, then you can have racing.  No reason to further economically decimate this industry and those that rely on it for a living.

Cal expo is the only track racing because it is the only track that generates its own purses.

Tracks are not closed, aside from Jonkers originally, to stop the spread, they are closed because who is going to pay the purses?   Saratoga could have continued and purses were to be adjusted to handle, the horsemen refused to race for 400 bucks.   

Until casinos can be reopened, which will be at least 7 months there will be no racing.

New York has decided to skip the budget leaving no chance to get money at one time destined for Sire Stakes.   Cuomo has said after this is over they will do a retroactive budget and cuts to many funded programs is to be expected.   I would assume every state will go this route as everything is shutdown.   Trust me horse racing was already at the bottom of the list, now it isnt on the list.

The sport should have protected itself but the sheer greed of 98% of owners, trainers, officials, track management and the disrespect shown by the drivers to cheat, not try and fix races has totally taken away any outside support.

You reap what you sow...

Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on March 28, 2020, 08:22:54 PM
Where are you getting all this information about $400.00 purses and 7 month casino closures from juice?

400 might have been the lowest condition.   Figure 200,000 on a card handle, purse account gets about 3% towards purses.   At 10 races is average 600.   The horsemen refused to race for handle generated purses, Saratoga isnt giving the horsemen a nickel.

Casino’s will be one of the last businesses to receive the all clear.   This is based on contacts at del lago in waterloo.   There is no way to stop the spread in these places and no way to vet every customer.   
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Dr. O on March 29, 2020, 12:53:32 PM
Hawthorne does not receive slot money at this time.
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: LUCPARK on March 29, 2020, 02:26:15 PM
Hawthorne does not receive slot money at this time.

HAWTHORNE WILL RACE AFTER APRIL
8 NO MATTER

EVEEN

IF THERES A NUCLEAR WAR

DEATH DONT MEAN SHIT IN CHIRAQ

,,COME TO 69TH AND WESTERN WE SHOW U DA FLU

OR KORONA..

Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: bigwrench on March 29, 2020, 03:53:28 PM
Chiraq
 73cv.2 ngc3 73cv.2 ngc3
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Fatboy on March 29, 2020, 03:55:33 PM
Chiraq
 73cv.2 ngc3 73cv.2 ngc3

CAN GET VIRUS BY THE GRAM DOWN THERE
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: bigwrench on March 29, 2020, 05:31:00 PM
Along with measel mumps an typhoid
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on March 30, 2020, 03:59:20 AM
HAWTHORNE WILL RACE AFTER APRIL
8 NO MATTER

EVEEN

IF THERES A NUCLEAR WAR

DEATH DONT MEAN SHIT IN CHIRAQ

,,COME TO 69TH AND WESTERN WE SHOW U DA FLU

OR KORONA..

I WISH IT WERE TRUE BUT SADLY NO.
DEM GOV.
EXTENDED SHUTDOWN BY FED.
ITS GONNA GET REAL AND I THINK ALOT MORE WILL DIE FROM THE DISASTER CREATED BY THIS VIRUS.

WAIT TILL CHIRAQ STARTS NEEDING FOOD AND NO ONE HAS NO MONEY.
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: Fatboy on March 30, 2020, 10:50:55 AM
2020 RAKE SEASON WILL NOT START UNTIL AT LEAST MAY
Title: Re: 2020 Stakes Season
Post by: MR.DALRAE on March 30, 2020, 03:14:23 PM
Looks like July now
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