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Title: cal expo open --- will any new horsemen show up
Post by: dinkadoo on March 25, 2020, 01:03:58 PM
Will any horsemen from the Midwest or East show up to train / drive / bring horses ?

If so my vote is for Brad Irvine --- he's liable to show up and leave nearly every track without notice.
Next in line would be Eric Goodell... Like to think the guy has/had talent but never stays put.

But then - will Cal Expo let them in ?
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Post by: chief yogi on March 25, 2020, 05:22:42 PM
they are lucky to race. i doubt anyone not allready there will be allowed in. cal is also in a more lock down state so i dont even know how horses or people from away with be welcome.
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on March 25, 2020, 06:13:21 PM
Who wants to go there
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Post by: Calhoun on March 25, 2020, 06:36:04 PM
Grapes Of Wrath Downs
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Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on March 25, 2020, 11:44:27 PM
Brad Irvine raced there before.
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on March 26, 2020, 12:32:07 AM
Is Jonathan Roberts driving there
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Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on March 26, 2020, 04:11:16 AM
Is Jonathan Roberts driving there

Yes
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Post by: GeeMoney on March 26, 2020, 04:18:38 AM
Is Jonathan Roberts driving there

No John Roberts is. 
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Post by: MR.DALRAE on March 26, 2020, 11:05:58 AM
Thx
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Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on March 26, 2020, 03:56:49 PM
Excellent racing  tmbz1
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Post by: Calhoun on March 26, 2020, 04:05:38 PM
Awesome news.   tmbz1
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Post by: Atthetrack7 on March 26, 2020, 04:39:37 PM
 has Jenn been giving her Calx Insideher pic4 selections from her isolation penthouse?
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 26, 2020, 08:50:04 PM
They were scheduled  to race tues I downloaded the program then they had to go back to friday cause powers that be said so .my question why did they redraw post positions?they are way different  in the new program as the one from tues with all the same horses in them I much prefer the first it gave some odds horses a chance now no chance when u go from the 1post to the 8 post when closers cant close with such slow fractions and no duel up front pushing the pace........oh and I have fri and sat programs but couldn't  add it on here if you send me email I'll send directly to you gulch 
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Post by: GeeMoney on March 26, 2020, 08:56:15 PM
They were scheduled  to race tues I downloaded the program then they had to go back to friday cause powers that be said so .my question why did they redraw post positions?they are way different  in the new program as the one from tues with all the same horses in them I much prefer the first it gave some odds horses a chance now no chance when u go from the 1post to the 8 post when closers cant close with such slow fractions and no duel up front pushing the pace........oh and I have fri and sat programs but couldn't  add it on here if you send me email I'll send directly to you gulch

What?   Tuesday and Friday the same.   
Title: Re: cal expo open --- will any new horsemen show up
Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 26, 2020, 09:20:06 PM
They redrawn  starting spots were changing days to tue,wed then last second was told they cant change days so had go back to friday they wanted to take advantage  of being the only harness  track going anyway programs were different same horses different  order that's all they might move next week it was stated  to tues,wed,  schedule  and earlier  post time
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Post by: PIGLAND on March 26, 2020, 09:26:38 PM
i dont think they redrew
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 26, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Book on tues not the same as friday pps not that this matters pic looks nice friday
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 26, 2020, 09:41:53 PM
Pic 4 looks good I meant those favorites wont win at least 2 of those
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Post by: PIGLAND on March 26, 2020, 10:08:56 PM
Book on tues not the same as friday pps not that this matters pic looks nice friday
are the entries right on usta?
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Post by: Jctoronto on March 26, 2020, 10:14:26 PM
10.15p thu

first, tue program same as friday

second,, short on horses sat night. (inc. Just 6 drawn for sat night's 10th and final- a hi5 event..Yikes)..regardless of reasons, horseplayers take events as they come.

but third..and most important ..after perusing both pgms.,, the race to hyper focus on is race 3 sat night.  I look forward to sharing 'that race's backstretch plot' with all of you saturday, scr and driver and eq changes depending of course.
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Post by: swoodall on March 26, 2020, 10:22:38 PM
Per Chris Schick:
Cal Expo is racing this Friday/Sat. The CHRB today is further evaluating our request to move to a Tues/ Wed schedule beginning Tues3/31.



I am a little confused as to the reason the California Racing Board refused their request.

Once race dates are approved for the next year changing those dates are usually not an easy task.

But Cal wasn't wasn't requesting to add or vacate dates.

Cal simply wanted to move to a better day of the week to try and increase handle.

That seems like a request that wouldn't violate their total number of approved dates or require regulatory changes?
Title: Re: cal expo open --- will any new horsemen show up
Post by: Superfecta on March 26, 2020, 11:28:49 PM
I know. I wish they would have been more forthcoming. Maybe it was just a technicality, because they are letting them resubmit.

It was approved. It's on the USTA site.
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Post by: Jctoronto on March 26, 2020, 11:36:23 PM
Saw this real good piece on Standardbred Canada tonight..

How Cal Expo Has Stayed Active

After weeks of racetracks gradually closing their doors across the continent in an effort to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, a single harness track has persisted through unique circumstances.

Cal Expo, located in California’s capital city of Sacramento (where COVID-19 cases have surpassed 2,500), is the sole track conducting live harness racing in North America. The one-mile oval has received permission from the California government to continue racing so long as no coronavirus cases sprout or spread to the track.

A handful of Canadian horsemen head south to Cal Expo for the winter, and one of those horsemen is Alberta native Rick Schneider. Given the state of racing in Canada amid the COVID-19 pandemic, he's extremely grateful for the opportunity to race.


“Everybody was scared, we were scared,” Schneider said. “We were on pins and needles for the last two or three weeks because I think California’s been hit hard with it. Stuff just flew off of shelves down here. And us poor horsemen, we race Friday and Saturday and we’re going ‘We got to get purse money out.’ Everybody’s panicking trying to find enough feed and hay if we had to stay for a month, but the money’s all tied up in the grandstand; the grandstand’s shut down. So when we raced last Friday I had never seen that many happy people in the paddock in my entire life. Ever. No arguing...everybo dy’s going ‘Oh thank goodness we made it to Friday and we’re racing, we get a little shot at something.’

“Giving distance is pretty easy. It’s not like you’re crammed into a small barn. Here we have empty shed rows; everybody’s got a lot of space. Everybody gets along and they’re all old-school trainers,” Schneider continued. “We all know how to keep our distance; we all know viruses because we work with them with horses all the time.”

The community at Cal Expo also distinguishes it from other harness tracks that had to close. About all of the horsemen who compete at Cal Expo live on the grounds, either inside of dorms or their own RVs. State police also patrol the facility (which remains closed to the public), leaving only a single gate through which the track announcer and judges can enter. Horsemen also agreed to have no more than 25 present in the paddock at the time. Plus, the paddock isn’t enclosed.

"Everything's outdoors. The barns are outdoors, the paddocks are outdoors, and I think that makes a difference,” continued Schneider. “Everything’s fresh air.”


With this unique climate allowing Cal Expo to persist, the track has thrived. Though handling roughly $700,000 as the lone harness track on Friday night, they capitalized on Saturday with nearly $1 million in handle.

“The other day I was going to the paddock and I go ‘You guys know we’re the show right now?’” Schneider said. “And they went ‘Holy crap, you’re right!’ These guys here work hard to try and get the handle up as high as possible because their revenue is solely from handle. I shared a bunch of stuff on Facebook about all the handicapping shows that were going on all across the nation, which I thought was just cool as heck. It was absolutely awesome watching all these people handicapping California racing.”

Currently Cal Expo’s race season runs through April 25. However, given the volatile environment nonetheless spurred by the pandemic, Cal Expo has allocated the necessary resources to accommodate horsemen in the event racing has to cease.

“That gives us confidence to stay here and do what we have to do,” Schneider said. “I thought about going home, but then I go ‘I have two loads of horses’ and everything was moving so fast to get out I didn’t know if I could make it with two loads and in the end I wouldn’t have made it. I would’ve had half the horses here and half of the horses somewhere else.”

Cal Expo remains poised to race on Friday (March 27) and Saturday (March 28) as one of the few active racetracks in North America.

“Every day we’re happy to be racing,” Schneider said.
Title: Re: cal expo open --- will any new horsemen show up
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on March 27, 2020, 02:42:44 AM
Quote
“The other day I was going to the paddock and I go ‘You guys know we’re the show right now?’” Schneider said. “And they went ‘Holy crap, you’re right!’ These guys here work hard to try and get the handle up as high as possible because their revenue is solely from handle. I shared a bunch of stuff on Facebook about all the handicapping shows that were going on all across the nation, which I thought was just cool as heck. It was absolutely awesome watching all these people handicapping California racing.”


Problem with this is that Cal-expo, for a stretch, used to get 25% of its handle from betting horsemen. Criminality is built into the game out there. Still, if you can get lucky, there are some nice opportunities to be made there.
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Post by: the master on March 27, 2020, 09:50:26 AM
Don't worry! Frank Petrelli is on his way!
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Post by: SPREE2015 on March 27, 2020, 10:04:41 AM
KUDOS TO CALI FOR LETTING CAL EXPO REMAIN OPEN .
CORONA VIRUS WILL TAKE MONTHS TO GET RESOLVED . WASH HANDS KEEP YOUR WORKPLACE CLEAN AND SAFE OF GERMS .
CAL EXPO NEEDS TO STAY EXTRA SANITIZED
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Post by: dinkadoo on March 27, 2020, 10:50:38 AM
going to sit down and start watching replays next week. Followed them for a couple of weeks. The track reminds me of Hoosier, but with smaller fields. You can look at the program and 'x' out half the field that would have no shot unless there was an accident.
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Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on March 27, 2020, 10:55:48 AM
Book on tues not the same as friday pps not that this matters pic looks nice friday

ITS EXACTLY THE SAME
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Post by: Cal Expose on March 27, 2020, 11:29:33 AM
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 27, 2020, 03:44:49 PM
Will cal ex have to close also or does those orders not apply to them
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Post by: elm grove angel on March 27, 2020, 04:02:39 PM
We're staying open.
Social distancing no problem here as long as Kathy P. keeps her distance.
I think I even saw our old announcer Scott Ehrlich on the backside
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Post by: Dingus on March 27, 2020, 06:37:46 PM
Cal Expo approved for Tues/Wed schedule
12:48 PM 27 Mar 2020 NZDT

At Thursday's special meeting of the California Horse Racing Board, Watch and Wager LLC received approval to race on Tuesday and Wednesday beginning next week.
First post for these programs will be 3:30 p.m. Pacific Time.
Meanwhile, this week will find the trotters and pacers in action at Cal Expo on Friday and Saturday night, with 10-race cards and a first post of 6:10 p.m.
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Post by: chief yogi on March 27, 2020, 06:39:32 PM
sa was a la county request. no one at sa had any virus just county asked them to close. golden gates running now.
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 27, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
But gg just short on horses and payoffs because of handle thanks for info
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 27, 2020, 07:02:13 PM
I just sent u message in your in box I gotta program but cant post it  I can send to u  in email with a attachment ok u got my email  in private message
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 27, 2020, 07:05:54 PM
Pic4 looks good tonight play against  in there fox valley hoss  she's sucka long pig wont bet at short odds 9th race 1,3 must use horses Robert's in perfect spot tonight
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Post by: Jctoronto on March 27, 2020, 07:08:57 PM
Not so sure gulfstreams javier castellano positive yesterday didnt figure in too..

CAL EXPO!!!!   6000 claimers where the action is
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 27, 2020, 07:21:12 PM
Yeah true but only thing going
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Post by: Smalltimer7932 on March 27, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
No one new there only 30 days left or so I dont see new people go that way a get turned  away
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