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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: TWOGOLDTEEFS on March 13, 2020, 12:02:20 PM
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I heard from a source that Allard was arrested. Is this true ?
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I cant confirm yet
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Looks like FBI
ON A MISSION
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I heard the same thing from a horseman in that area a couple hours ago but haven't seen anything official yet. How long until they get to the Washington Pa area?
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when will it be Casie's turn?
- Owns/owned Thoroughbreds with Oaks, Surick et all and under the care of Navarro
- Trains for the Crawfords
- Allard was at her wedding
etc etc etc
Her fingerprints are all over this yet she survives?!?!?
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Lets not forget about betting line and yogurt gate ...
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fbi waiting for them at boarder
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Lets not forget about betting line and yogurt gate ...
Where' were the feds then?
Everyone knows Harris is just her beard for the racehorse stable so she can keep a lower profile
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Think boys think.
Trump enacts law making animal abuse Nov 25,2019.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/animal-cruelty-law-crime-prison-bill-fine-trump-a9217876.html
Theyve now made it a felony, why arrest them when they mite get a slap of the wrist misdemeanor.
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Don making racing great again tmbz1
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What about Takter?
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Another one of He Is A Good Guy, Family Man, right Luc ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Is this another pandemic??
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i hope they catch burke
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How many NW1 have just started posting here in the last two hours that are Luc ngc3
Probably none. Their spelling is way better than his
On another note I think this thread is fake news (for now anyway). I can't find anything online anywhere about an arrest
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Probably none. Their spelling is way better than his
On another note I think this thread is fake news (for now anyway). I can't find anything online anywhere about an arrest
nabbed off plane . back fROM SIN CITY
I WILL PRAY FOR HIM
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GUY IS A WINNER AND LOTS OF HATERS ON THIS FORUM
YOU GUYS WISH TOO MUCH ILL WILL PEOPLE
LET THE COURTS SORT IT OUT IF ANY DONE WRONG
,,,IM HOPING FOR THE BEST FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY
GOOD GUY ,,FAMILY MAN,,
AND HIS BRO,,IS 3 FOR 3 ON MY HORSES tmbz1 tmbz1
Y U MUTHFCKERS ALWAYS HATING
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Tell you what Luc. If it turns out that Allard was arrested getting off the plane from Vegas most of this whole forum will owe you an apology. (At least for that statement)
If not you better get out of Dodge because you will NEVER hear the end of it
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Well ice . id say the reason your seeing more nw1 posting is the fact that maybe just maybe the little guys have a fighting chance... I know the playing field will never be level but its probably not quite as uphill as it once was..
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Reason so many NW1 are appearing is that this site's viewers have consistently tripled since Monday so lots of "lookers" are more willing to get involved. Whether they have valid opinions remains to be seen. Some have been very good … others very naive
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No surprise to my fellow Frenchmen. His motto is gas Em up and go
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Tell you what Luc. If it turns out that Allard was arrested getting off the plane from Vegas most of this whole forum will owe you an apology. (At least for that statement)
If not you better get out of Dodge because you will NEVER hear the end of it
True , FBI were waitin for him at airport.
They did confiscate the list from Scott Robinson websites and Mdivet.
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Opinions are like ass holes .... Everybody has one and its bound to smell sometime or the other ...
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Opinions are like ass holes .... Everybody has one and its bound to smell sometime or the other ...
Best thing I have seen on here in days!! Classic ngc3
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I wont bother wasting a prayer on allard
if he is innocent he does not need one
and if he is guilty along with the rest hopefully they get what they deserve
how about an honest days work for an honest days pay
as opposed to doing fuck all , never getting in the sulky and juicing up horses
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According to Zocale's twitter Allard and Banca shared the same vet who was one of the accused. Banca was arrested so at some point it seems likely that Allard will be too. When and where doesn't really matter. If plopsters have the inside info that it already happened congrats. Just curious where you heard it from
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I wont bother wasting a prayer on allard
if he is innocent he does not need one
and if he is guilty along with the rest hopefully they get what they deserve
how about an honest days work for an honest days pay
as opposed to doing fuck all , never getting in the sulky and juicing up horses
They all want easy money without earning it and up until now they had it
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and I wish I was right next to the FBI waiting to spit in the cocksuckers big fat canadian face for all the poor innocent horses that died and are suffering from his drugging
Says a resident of the country with the highest volume of big fat people.
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and I wish I was right next to the FBI waiting to spit in the cocksuckers big fat canadian face for all the poor innocent horses that died and are suffering from his drugging
eee zzz tuff guy
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rene will back hand u into sunday stop it
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not quite fuck face
and if he wants to give it a try I can fit him in any day of the week
stop yourself
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you aint gonna squat
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he knows judo and karate
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Her number could come up and if it does then Andrew Harris's will too and that will be rough for his kids after just loosing their mother.
I agree
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Lots of stuff flying around Mohawk, but I can't confirm anything. Hearing Teagues name, Fellows is well connected to Oakes and I heard Gillis too. Also Cassie, Berkley, Rubinstein and more started a drug lab of some kind several years ago. I think they sold it, but there is apparently a connection?
Lots of punters will be seriously pissed at Mohawk if some key players don't go down. That's the impression I got last night.
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Ice 100% true
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DRF reporting Allard arrested and charged per Bill Finley
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who did dolores championship beard for two+ years back at monti...shes safe in canada for now...isnt she?
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PLEASE CASIE NEXT
STILL ROOM IN THE PADDY WAGON
They found cheques she had written to Fred Rodgers and she still came out unscathed, she has lifetime immunity
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PLEASE CASIE NEXT
STILL ROOM IN THE PADDY WAGON
please burke
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Bill Finley
@BillFinley3
Seems these guys think this stuff is funny. In Allard indictment, there is intercepted phone call between Lou Grasso and Ross Cohen about "the Allard death camp" and the killing of 7 horses
These fuckers are fried.
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Burkes stock looked a tad short today at the meadows
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No word on Burke or the Millers yet,,,,when will it come down
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OK … Bill Finley says its so. Congrats plopsters. Good for Luc and Headpole. Still want to know how you beat Finley to the punch.
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Where is the link to the stated indictment? I think we all want to read it
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Presumably Allard does not have US citizenship so he is basically fucked because any conviction will result in deportation.
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OK … Bill Finley says its so. Congrats plopsters. Good for Luc and Headpole. Still want to know how you beat Finley to the punch.
finley ..finley who
I got a girl friend tuffer than finley ;D ;D
its all good forget bout it
I knew last night ,,,
luc not as silly as I play to be,,,
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Luc here it is for all to see my apologies.
fa get about it we all good tmbz1
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there's a reason why burke couldn't get homicide hunter to function. he's clean.
it aint hard to figure out.
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Every story on this subject has been given (probably by the feds) to Finley.
I just went to the Southern District NY website and nothing about Allard listed in the search function. For the hell of it I searched for Conor Flynn and did get details of his indictment.
Would Allard be charged somewhere else? How does Finley know what was said?
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Where is the link to the stated indictment? I think we all want to read it
https://harnessracingupdate.com/2020/03/13/united-states-of-america-vs-rene-allard/
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Thank you. That wasn't in this mornings news on that site.
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when will it be Casie's turn?
- Owns/owned Thoroughbreds with Oaks, Surick et all and under the care of Navarro
- Trains for the Crawfords
- Allard was at her wedding
etc etc etc
Her fingerprints are all over this yet she survives?!?!?
Her wedding????
Who would marry that hideous fat cunt she reminds me of that big Russian guy from rocky
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Got em!
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Allllard might have killed 7 horse shots
But from what that butterface barn skank Jess Anderson said he got a small pee pee and didn’t murder no pussy said husted laid better and bigger pipe
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From the 'how the hell could we be so wrong' dept.
April guest speaker prince edward island harness banquet
RENE ALLARD.
Your organizers..not even a clue.
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From the 'how the hell could we be so wrong' dept.
April guest speaker prince edward island harness banquet
RENE ALLARD.
Your organizers..not even a clue.
They might look at lining up another speaker
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They might look at lining up another speaker
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According to the indictment.
"On October 8 Allard asked Grosso to ship 3 bottles of Red Acid to Canada Thursday".
On October 19th his prized filly When Doves Cry finished 2nd in the BC Elimination.
Guess she had bad joints
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Tell you what Luc. If it turns out that Allard was arrested getting off the plane from Vegas most of this whole forum will owe you an apology. (At least for that statement)
If not you better get out of Dodge because you will NEVER hear the end of it
you owe him an apology ngc3
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https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/harness-trainer-rene-allard-latest-arrested-in-doping-scandal/
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According to the indictment.
"On October 8 Allard asked Grosso to ship 3 bottles of Red Acid to Canada Thursday".
On October 19th his prized filly When Doves Cry finished 2nd in the BC Elimination.
Guess she had bad joints
Where was she in Canada
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Well Luc had it half right … da plane da plane what happened to FBI arresting him off da plane ngc3 ngc3
"According to a source, Allard was arrested earlier this week while vacationing in Las Vegas"
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Where was she in Canada
Breeders Crown at Woodbine
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"He is being charged with “misbranding” drugs, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison"
That's it? WTF
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Breeders Crown at Woodbine
Under Rene care or Auciello?
Either way explains how Auciello races so many crippled horses
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Cohen: What’s going on with the Allard death camp?
Grasso: (Laughter) well I didn’t get anymore emergency calls yesterday so I am assuming…
Cohen: Assuming the number stopped at 7?
Grasso: Well yeah
Cohen” How many died?
Grasso: Three
Cohen. Jeez. What were you thinking?
Grasso: Three or two maybe.
The pair continue to discuss the situation before wrapping up:
Grasso: …One of them just died on the table they just cut him open and poof it died.
Cohen: Holy f–k did they do an autopsy?
Grasso: Their heart rate was like triple they were breathing real heavy their membranes were going f-ing purple.
I hope someone beats these pieces of shit beyond recognition.
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I wouldn't bet the Allard owned thoroughbred Legendary Jack, who is entered in Saturday’s sixth race at Parx. Might not be hitting on all cylinders
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Under Rene care or Auciello?
Either way explains how Auciello races so many crippled horses
Allard was listed as the trainer which surprised me as I thought he was banned from there.
I also thought Auciello would have been the one listed. I think they give breaks to some trainers in some stakes races. They let Springsteen race at the Meadowlands a few years ago Great hunch play that day first time start in NJ. ngc3 ngc3
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I've been around horses my entire life. I learned to ride a horse before a bike. I've trained and driven and I've considered every horse to be part of the family. For someone to do to these beautiful animals what these monsters have been accused of is unfathomable. Call me a sap if you want but i much prefer that over the alternative
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I hope someone beats these pieces of shit beyond recognition.
If after that they can still walk, they need racing bikes tied to them and driven around the rec yard of their prison and trained until they drop all after having been injected with the same drugs. Most of you here are animal lovers and the fact that people do this and kill horses with no regard is unfuckingforgivea ble. I would forgive someone for homicide before I would for someone who killed an animal.
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Horse abuser no regard for animals !
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did you read what you wrote - tied in? hes front and center !!1 asshat
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Must have a lot of guys talking and rolling over.
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Bue hye hsrness rscing
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This is shaping up as the best week in horse racing. Hopefully more to come....
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RENE YOU WILL GET PLENTY OF SALT PETER IN THE COUP !
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He’s cooked
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Thank God that the ARCI is catching trainers using class 4 therapeutic drugs like robaxin. Way to go. The ARCI is such a joke.
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Ok so Allard is nailed and though everyone knew he was guilty and was never caught this proves that maybe Burke could be next. What is Jewfry going to do.
WILL JEWFRY LET HORSES AND CONNECTIONS OF GAS TRAINERS RACE?
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It should just be the end of racing. Truthfully, if you are in the business, you know that they could go on any track in the country and nail at least 90% for the same type of shit. Everybody is using something and it`s been going on for years and years. The biggest difference today is after the slots increased the purse money, it just gave these guys more money to put into their chemistry sets and they lost their mind. They only keep horses for a short time so they don`t care what the shit was doing to them. For years, my father and I were able to buy cheap classy horses that had problems, rehab them, shoe them, etc. and win with them. We stopped in 2011 after the last 4 we tried with who all had back class and good marks all had one thing in common, no liver function! I couldn`t fix that. Most of these great horsemen and women of today couldn`t tell you where a horse was off or how to fix it if you gave them 3 chances! They can`t even properly bandage a horse anymore. They do them up with a needle instead. It`s sad. There is no coming back from this because if they really do it right, there won`t be anybody left. Here`s a big fuck you to all of the idiots who say breeding, bikes, etc. is what made the average times drop by 5 seconds or better in the last 10 years. The saddest part of it all is that our own governing bodies and people in the business did absolutely nothing but cover it up forever and the feds had to step in and fix it! I only hope it goes all the way down to the smaller tracks like Batavia/Buffalo and gets them all. It isn`t just at the big money tracks that this shit goes on. It might be worse at the smaller tracks because they want the money all the more. This is the end.
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It should just be the end of racing. Truthfully, if you are in the business, you know that they could go on any track in the country and nail at least 90% for the same type of shit. Everybody is using something and it`s been going on for years and years. The biggest difference today is after the slots increased the purse money, it just gave these guys more money to put into their chemistry sets and they lost their mind. They only keep horses for a short time so they don`t care what the shit was doing to them. For years, my father and I were able to buy cheap classy horses that had problems, rehab them, shoe them, etc. and win with them. We stopped in 2011 after the last 4 we tried with who all had back class and good marks all had one thing in common, no liver function! I couldn`t fix that. Most of these great horsemen and women of today couldn`t tell you where a horse was off or how to fix it if you gave them 3 chances! They can`t even properly bandage a horse anymore. They do them up with a needle instead. It`s sad. There is no coming back from this because if they really do it right, there won`t be anybody left. Here`s a big fuck you to all of the idiots who say breeding, bikes, etc. is what made the average times drop by 5 seconds or better in the last 10 years. The saddest part of it all is that our own governing bodies and people in the business did absolutely nothing but cover it up forever and the feds had to step in and fix it! I only hope it goes all the way down to the smaller tracks like Batavia/Buffalo and gets them all. It isn`t just at the big money tracks that this shit goes on. It might be worse at the smaller tracks because they want the money all the more. This is the end.
AGREE ,SAD EVERY TRACK OWNER AND RACING AND WAGERING BOARD NEW THEY DID NOTHING
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Lots of hate out there towards Rene! He must be like really really extra motivated now!!!!
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Will they roll out the red carpet for him this year in PEI?
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It should just be the end of racing. Truthfully, if you are in the business, you know that they could go on any track in the country and nail at least 90% for the same type of shit. Everybody is using something and it`s been going on for years and years. The biggest difference today is after the slots increased the purse money, it just gave these guys more money to put into their chemistry sets and they lost their mind. They only keep horses for a short time so they don`t care what the shit was doing to them. For years, my father and I were able to buy cheap classy horses that had problems, rehab them, shoe them, etc. and win with them. We stopped in 2011 after the last 4 we tried with who all had back class and good marks all had one thing in common, no liver function! I couldn`t fix that. Most of these great horsemen and women of today couldn`t tell you where a horse was off or how to fix it if you gave them 3 chances! They can`t even properly bandage a horse anymore. They do them up with a needle instead. It`s sad. There is no coming back from this because if they really do it right, there won`t be anybody left. Here`s a big fuck you to all of the idiots who say breeding, bikes, etc. is what made the average times drop by 5 seconds or better in the last 10 years. The saddest part of it all is that our own governing bodies and people in the business did absolutely nothing but cover it up forever and the feds had to step in and fix it! I only hope it goes all the way down to the smaller tracks like Batavia/Buffalo and gets them all. It isn`t just at the big money tracks that this shit goes on. It might be worse at the smaller tracks because they want the money all the more. This is the end.
STFU!!!
You are another hater-no longer in the Industry-so its OK for you if everyone including all the fine decent horsemen/owners get kicked to the curb because of some scumbags.??
Did you even read the indictments ahole???
SURICK AND NAVARRO AND ALLARD KILLED MANY HORSES WITH THEIR DRUGS!!!!!!
They used drugs that had nothing to do with treating healthy horses for any kind of problems--unnatural stuff used as PED's and for research. Like Surick with his EPO and red acid etc and ALLARD with research chemicals and god knows what else -which KILLED horses and certainly didnt report that to any authorities did he? Surick didnt either.
Yes other horsemen use treatments for horses that they think will help them for a race--BUT NONE THAT WOULD KILL THEM OR HARM THEM. Thats what the difference is between this case and regular drug tests the commissions are using.
Horse killers via chemicals in my book-are on a whole different level-and should never be allowed anywhere near a horse for the remainder of their lives after spending many years behind bars to think about what they did.
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STFU!!!
You are another hater-no longer in the Industry-so its OK for you if everyone including all the fine decent horsemen/owners get kicked to the curb because of some scumbags.??
Did you even read the indictments ahole???
SURICK AND NAVARRO AND ALLARD KILLED MANY HORSES WITH THEIR DRUGS!!!!!!
They used drugs that had nothing to do with treating healthy horses for any kind of problems--unnatural stuff used as PED's and for research. Like Surick with his EPO and red acid etc and ALLARD with research chemicals and god knows what else -which KILLED horses and certainly didnt report that to any authorities did he? Surick didnt either.
Yes other horsemen use treatments for horses that they think will help them for a race--BUT NONE THAT WOULD KILL THEM OR HARM THEM. Thats what the difference is between this case and regular drug tests the commissions are using.
Horse killers via chemicals in my book-are on a whole different level-and should never be allowed anywhere near a horse for the remainder of their lives after spending many years behind bars to think about what they did.
I sure hope they catch burke
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STFU!!!
You are another hater-no longer in the Industry-so its OK for you if everyone including all the fine decent horsemen/owners get kicked to the curb because of some scumbags.??
Did you even read the indictments ahole???
SURICK AND NAVARRO AND ALLARD KILLED MANY HORSES WITH THEIR DRUGS!!!!!!
They used drugs that had nothing to do with treating healthy horses for any kind of problems--unnatural stuff used as PED's and for research. Like Surick with his EPO and red acid etc and ALLARD with research chemicals and god knows what else -which KILLED horses and certainly didnt report that to any authorities did he? Surick didnt either.
Yes other horsemen use treatments for horses that they think will help them for a race--BUT NONE THAT WOULD KILL THEM OR HARM THEM. Thats what the difference is between this case and regular drug tests the commissions are using.
Horse killers via chemicals in my book-are on a whole different level-and should never be allowed anywhere near a horse for the remainder of their lives after spending many years behind bars to think about what they did.
Well said , there are many honest hardworking horseman who shouldn’t be lumped in with those indicted and if these guys are found guilty we can only hope they get some jail time and are never allowed near a horse again..
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Is it fair....
Is it fair to have the 'regular' drivers of these crooked dirty and deadly trainers answer police questioning? How much 'do you know' when youre in and around these vermin trainers and their barns most days of every week. Its a non-starter to blame any regular driver for un-natural injury or horrible death to a horse. Thats obvious. But its also 'very reasonable' to expect a human being to blow the whistle quietly on backstretch Dr. Moreau's Island tactics and Frankensteinian experimentation.. .COME CLEAN DRIVERS..YOU HAVE IMMUNITY...YOU DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING 'HIS DRIVES' ANYMORE...THE TRAINER YOU BUST IS GOING TO JAIL!!
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RED ACID has been around for YEARS..Hell I even used it. Must be a NEWER or more potent ACID..Because the RED ACID I used was not much better than Cortisone.
No way this can be the same stuff.
Oh! And you're saying that cortisone was no good? Real accurate information!
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During its investigation of Allard and others, the FBI intercepted a disturbing phone conversation between Ross Cohen and Louis Grasso, who were among those indicted Monday, discussing the deaths of horses who were given illegal drugs by Allard. It reads (exactly):
Cohen: What’s going on with the Allard death camp?
Grasso: (Laughter) well I didn’t get anymore emergency calls yesterday so I am assuming…
Cohen: Assuming the number stopped at 7?
Grasso: Well yeah
Cohen” How many died?
Grasso: Three
Cohen. Jeez. What were you thinking?
Grasso: Three or two maybe.
The pair continue to discuss the situation before wrapping up:
Grasso: …One of them just died on the table they just cut him open and poof it died.
Cohen: Holy f–k did they do an autopsy?
Grasso: Their heart rate was like triple they were breathing real heavy their membranes were going f-ing purple.
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During its investigation of Allard and others, the FBI intercepted a disturbing phone conversation between Ross Cohen and Louis Grasso, who were among those indicted Monday, discussing the deaths of horses who were given illegal drugs by Allard. It reads (exactly):
Cohen: What’s going on with the Allard death camp?
Grasso: (Laughter) well I didn’t get anymore emergency calls yesterday so I am assuming…
Cohen: Assuming the number stopped at 7?
Grasso: Well yeah
Cohen” How many died?
Grasso: Three
Cohen. Jeez. What were you thinking?
Grasso: Three or two maybe.
The pair continue to discuss the situation before wrapping up:
Grasso: …One of them just died on the table they just cut him open and poof it died.
Cohen: Holy f–k did they do an autopsy?
Grasso: Their heart rate was like triple they were breathing real heavy their membranes were going f-ing purple.
real sick people
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All scum put them all away.
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Standardbred Canada puts up an article you could miss if you weren't looking for it.
If one of his drugged up horses had of won a big race, we'd be reading poetic drivel about how prepared his horse was, with photos and live video.
Come on S C , give this the page space it deserves.
Confirm what side of "dirty, cheater, pos racing" you're on.
Right now, I can't tell.
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STFU!!!
You are another hater-no longer in the Industry-so its OK for you if everyone including all the fine decent horsemen/owners get kicked to the curb because of some scumbags.??
Did you even read the indictments ahole???
SURICK AND NAVARRO AND ALLARD KILLED MANY HORSES WITH THEIR DRUGS!!!!!!
They used drugs that had nothing to do with treating healthy horses for any kind of problems--unnatural stuff used as PED's and for research. Like Surick with his EPO and red acid etc and ALLARD with research chemicals and god knows what else -which KILLED horses and certainly didnt report that to any authorities did he? Surick didnt either.
Yes other horsemen use treatments for horses that they think will help them for a race--BUT NONE THAT WOULD KILL THEM OR HARM THEM. Thats what the difference is between this case and regular drug tests the commissions are using.
Horse killers via chemicals in my book-are on a whole different level-and should never be allowed anywhere near a horse for the remainder of their lives after spending many years behind bars to think about what they did.
Looking forward to a much more level playing field now!!!! bye bye cheaters!!! tmbz1
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Pigland, they have to be close.
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Eat a dick Bond! I know the fucking difference between a bute shot and what these guys are doing but I also spent 35 years in this fucking game and seen a lot of shady shit. I worked for a lot of characters over the years. Ask any fucking groom you see if they have ever held the head of a horse while their trainer treated one and you`ll find not one who hasn`t. The shit that has come out since the money has gone up has increased in strength and without giving a fuck for the well-being of the horse! Honest horsemen? Give me a fucking break! Like I said, you can go on any track backside in the country and you`ll find the same shit on every one and that is everybody trying to get an edge. Some can afford a better edge than others.
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The drivers for these chemists were probably thinking "is this going to be the race where one of these Frankenstein experiments go wrong and I'm dumped on the track" every time they picked up the lines. But it was their choice. They sure as hell knew what was going on
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Where’s Simon?
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Allard was in Vegas vacationing when arrested. No more high rolling.
Part of his punishment is to the dig the graves of at least the three dead horses Ross Cohen was caught on a phone tap.
Those arrested must be talking as dominoes continue to fall.
Who’s the first to fall in the Midwest ?
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I sure hope they catch burke
Burke, what about Alagna, Pelling, Ryder, Toscano and all the other stake race winners???
Blake and Chantel....lmfao
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A lot of people hoping their names come out of the mouths already arrested as they may be talking
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So, any successful trainer is cheating in your opinion. So everyone
Who makes money in the sport is a cheater and if you don’t, your playing
Fair. So please tell me the names of the successful trainers who are playing fair.
You guys are all clueless
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Right, name all of these clean successful trainers out there. If they are racing clean, they aren`t making any money and the owners aren`t staying with them. The owners know who to go with and they only want one thing, to win and make money. They don`t care how. The honest trainers at most tracks are long gone because they couldn`t compete with the crooked ones.
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Burke, what about Alagna, Pelling, Ryder, Toscano and all the other stake race winners???
Blake and Chantel....lmfao
Chantal had all b track horses until recently, who's her connection
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Chantal had all b track horses until recently, who's her connection
Chris Ryder sent horses to her. Bettors Wish had one helluva year. Makes you wonder?
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Allard was in Vegas vacationing when arrested. No more high rolling.
Part of his punishment is to the dig the graves of at least the three dead horses Ross Cohen was caught on a phone tap.
Those arrested must be talking as dominoes continue to fall.
Who’s the first to fall in the Midwest ?
Wonder if Bill Rhoades will come on here.
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HARD FOR MOST IF NOT ALL OF YOU DE FUKN GENERATE LOSERS TO UNDERSTAND SOME FOLKS ARE JUST BETTER THAN OTHERS, WITHIN THE RULES.
YOU JUST HAVE TO PLACE THE BLAME ON YOUR LOSING ON SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE FUKHEAD THEY SEE IN THE MIRROR
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So, any successful trainer is cheating in your opinion. So everyone
Who makes money in the sport is a cheater and if you don’t, your playing
Fair. So please tell me the names of the successful trainers who are playing fair.
You guys are all clueless
That’s all these people behind their computers think!!
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Right, name all of these clean successful trainers out there. If they are racing clean, they aren`t making any money and the owners aren`t staying with them. The owners know who to go with and they only want one thing, to win and make money. They don`t care how. The honest trainers at most tracks are long gone because they couldn`t compete with the crooked ones.
Unreal-I can see why you are a disgruntled hater. Why stress out and get on this site-since everyone is a cheat?
You are right in one thing only--some bad apples have been left in the basket too long and racing administrators have let the ball drop on cleaning them out. However-the FBI-is a different ballgame and many will now be gone-forever.
I happen to know there are many great horsemen out there-who play by the rules and make plenty of money along with their owners-and are certainly NOT cheats. Just like bad apple trainer scumbags-some Owners are just as guilty as they seek out these bad apple trainers -trainers that have a bad reputation that they should know not to give their horse to.
Some horses like Cam Fella,Somebeach,Miki,Muscle Hill etc etc---were just great horses that didnt need any shit or help to make them great and their trainers job-was just to get them fit-and not screw them up.
Great trainers-are just the same--they are simply better than the rest.
Only cheaters resort to drugs-because they are not good enough-so they need that edge to overcome their lack of ability-and with the Racing Administrators-not doing their job-they have been allowed to prosper and a whole culture of chemists has emerged.
At least now-some will go to Jail-never to race again-so other cheaters should now sit up and take notice.
In other words--the cream will rise to the top-and the shit fall to the bottom.
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Bond, you are naming horses from quite a while back. I asked to name a trainer right now who is racing clean and making money. You can`t.
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Here's the current top 25 money earners this year per USTA .. hence successful .. pick who you think is clean
Burke, Ronald J "Ron"
Allard, Rene M
Harris , Andrew S
Banca, Richard J
Moreau , Richard
Auciello , Carmen E
Surick, Nick
Di Domenico, Scott D
King Jr, James T "Jim"
Morgan Jr, Virgil V
Bongiorno, Jennifer L
Columbo, Joseph D
Rhoades, William
Davis, Dylan P
Cullipher, Jeffrey W "Jeff"
Redder, Peter A
Loney, C B "C Brian"
Baillargeon, Benoit O
Bucci, Ricky A
Betts, Scott R
Godinez, Jose L
Givens, Melvin W "Wayne"
George, Scott T "Tyler"
Schillaci, Samuel J "Sam"
Height, Christopher J "Chris"
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this story has gotten so big -- that even the USTA is carrying stories about those arrested.
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Here's the current top 25 money earners this year per USTA .. hence successful .. pick who you think is clean
Burke, Ronald J "Ron"
Allard, Rene M
Harris , Andrew S
Banca, Richard J
Moreau , Richard
Auciello , Carmen E
Surick, Nick
Di Domenico, Scott D
King Jr, James T "Jim"
Morgan Jr, Virgil V
Bongiorno, Jennifer L
Columbo, Joseph D
Rhoades, William
Davis, Dylan P
Cullipher, Jeffrey W "Jeff"
Redder, Peter A
Loney, C B "C Brian"
Baillargeon, Benoit O
Bucci, Ricky A
Betts, Scott R
Godinez, Jose L
Givens, Melvin W "Wayne"
George, Scott T "Tyler"
Schillaci, Samuel J "Sam"
Height, Christopher J "Chris"
schillachi
how did heeven make this list
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Bond, you are naming horses from quite a while back. I asked to name a trainer right now who is racing clean and making money. You can`t.
I can name plenty--but wont waste my time because you have already stated they are all cheats-so whats the point?
Heres the truth--it depends on the perspective you take re medication.
1) Ask anyone from outside North America-and EVERY TRAINER IS A CHEAT/DRUG USER-because we use Lasix-drug.
2) Ask a hater(like most on this forum-and 95%-are cheaters/drug users especially if they happen to have a high strike rate..
3) Ask most educated people including those who write the medication guidelines and trainers/vets -those who use Class 1 or 2 medications or drugs that act like them and then go race--are the cheaters and those that kill with their meds- dont go past go and straight to prison.
4) Ask any decent horse trainer/vet-who uses therapeutic medications only -class 3-5-and they would consider themselves to be NOT CHEATS
That is also my stand-anything that does not hurt a horse-can help him perform his best and is not JUST a PEdrug ie Class 3-5 and races under the rules-is NOT a drug cheat.
One caveat--using a multitude of therapeutic drugs in a short space of time-ie stacking-like Pena and others were doing -will obviously place you as being a cheat as overdoing any drug-cannot be in the best interests on the health of the horse.
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Columbo from Crissman crew, not clean. Schillaci not clean all the way back to his Batavia/Buff days.
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Columbo from Crissman crew, not clean. Schillaci not clean all the way back to his Batavia/Buff days.
So-he fits in the number 3 column I outlined-please show evidence.
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Let due process run its course but trust me if these allegations and recordings are indicative of the animal abuse as they continually laugh at the deaths of these innocent animal then they are subject to similar penalties as anyone else .. Mike Vick? I think 4 yrs for these guys would be minimal and fair? The recordings are brutal as an animal lover??
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Columbo from Crissman crew, not clean. Schillaci not clean all the way back to his Batavia/Buff days.
Crissman and Oakes old Buffalo buddies
Is Crissman licensed?
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does this mean no more entries from Allard?
he has ALOT of horses
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Bond, I know the difference between the class 1 and 3 and so forth. Not all trainers are using class 1 narcotics but if you look back through the last 10 years or more, class 1 gets you nothing and a small time guy gets hammered for a class 3. I believe in the jugs, the anti-inflamatories, etc. and lasix does nothing but help a horse. That`s all great. But how about the new drenches that came out. How bout the shakes? How many horses died or were ruined from EPO going on for years and how many horsemen used it if they could get their hands on it? How many livers did overuse of cobalt destroy? I can tell you there were plenty at my track and Know-nothing mfers were abusing it everywhere. You don`t want to go back and forth with me on the subject Bond. I did 35 years in the game and my eyes were always open. Like I said, you aren`t naming anybody because you can`t! End of story!
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does this mean no more entries from Allard?
he has ALOT of horses
Have any commissions approved transfers of yet?
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Bond,,,,,,,,,,,, In my opinion Cam Fella was in the baking soda era and I have stated before that SBSW was an epo horse. I would love to hear your list of clean trainers who can compete, because I don't believe there is 1.
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Have any commissions approved transfers of yet?
good question
i see thoroughbreds are making all horses transfered wait 60 days
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good question
i see thoroughbreds are making all horses transfered wait 60 days
That sounds reasonable, wait 60 days and requalify
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schillachi
how did he even make this list
HE HAS THE GREAT, AND TALENTED RONNIW WRENN JR. DRIVING FOR HIM... THAT IS HOW ASSHOLE
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[ I would love to hear your list of clean trainers who can compete, because I don't believe there is 1.
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I feel that. Ray Remmens and his brothers are clean......never IMO..a serious positive....never accused of stuffing....alway s raced his horses.....since year 1 at the Big M
And still in business
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Were in the hell did I say Cortisone is no good?
I SAID that RED ACID that I used was not much BETTER..
Can you comprehend a sentence?
I comprehend ignorance! Comparing the 2 are like comparing apple to oranges!
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Her number could come up and if it does then Andrew Harris's will too and that will be rough for his kids after just loosing their mother.
You have to be a fucked up individual to bring up a deceased womans name in a conversation like this.
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Any list of the horses they killed
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Any list of the horses they killed
On track stabbing might be a solution , but even still did no one at these training centres not notice the dead horses piling up
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Well does any ask where these horses disappeared
I know they used to have the good Go Daddy Go who i haven't seen race in a year
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Prolly called deadstock agent to take them.
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What's Jim King Jr using????
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Had a big night at Mohawk
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The comments he put are comical. He also has different address on ownership.
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The comments he put are comical. He also has different address on ownership.
Laundry ain’t just done on.clothes
SMARTEN UP SON
U CANT BE THIS NIAVE
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I was wondering that too. Not just about Jimmy, but how can no Delaware trainers be involved in this? Tony Poliseno lives here. Are we saying he had no dealings with anyone in Delware? None of the other high percentage trainers in DE are dealing with someone involved in this? Very hard to believe that's the case. I'm sure some will named eventually.
I've been around delaware trainers for years there are lots of them using this stuff
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Ditto!
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Allard selling many on On Gait. Curious what they bring?
Can the horses recover from this shit they pumped into them or are they pooched
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Can the horses recover from this shit they pumped into them or are they pooched
They will be fine.
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With all the indictments and more to come why is it that Bill Findley is first to report it on his TDN when the USTA and SC are late and you need a magnifier to find it. Paulick Report usually is on top of things but in this case they too were after TDN. Findley is a respected reporter and in this case seems to be the chosen reporter to break what is going on by the FBI. We need more reporting like TDN that doesn't follow the herd but leads and in this case he is way out in front. tmbz1
They might be under the thumb of the FBI themselves.
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They will be fine.
I sure as hell would want their liver function tested before buying 1.
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Can the horses recover from this shit they pumped into them or are they pooched
Some do, but most are burned out for good!
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I think it would really hard to determine whether or not the horses recover. All this black type in the auction books I think is irrelevant now because of these gassed up sires and their offspring and there should be a lot of breeders held accountable because they knew what was going on and they IMO are as guilty as the chemist trainers. Again it all comes back to greed.
The breeders are gonna get crushed this not only from this but with the US dollar is going to crash HARD!!!!!
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breeders do not have to worry till the fall, notice NO statements from Hanover, Winback, Hunterton etc. They will not say anything as they have a vested interest for this to be done asap, they won disavow any of theses people. They bought horses from them at very inflated prices. Crawfords are the WORST, phoney headline loving trash.
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THEY CRAWFORD HAVE YET TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT
GOOD PEOPLE
NICE FAMILY
,ALWAYS SOCIABLE,,
,,JUST ASKING
HOPEFULLY THEY SAY SOMETHING
EVEN IF ITS HELLO ..
THEY ARE GREAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAVED MANY HORSES FROM SLAUGHTER..
tmbz1
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THEY CRAWFORD HAVE YET TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT
GOOD PEOPLE
NICE FAMILY
,ALWAYS SOCIABLE,,
,,JUST ASKING
HOPEFULLY THEY SAY SOMETHING
EVEN IF ITS HELLO ..
THEY ARE GREAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAVED MANY HORSES FROM SLAUGHTER..
tmbz1
Remember the old saying:
Shake your hand with 1 hand and pick your pocket with the other.
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And just think....here they employed trainers from both harness and thorobred industries that slaughtered horses on a regular basis and just continued mowing them down in business as usual. Sorry but these are NOT "GREAT" people in any way, shape or form. The whole world knew that these guys were cheating and these "GREAT" people still employed them right up until last week.
MAYBE JUST MAYBE THEY DIDNT KNOW
,,JUST SAYIN
''THEY SEEM LIKE GOOD PEOPLE ON COMMERCIALS AND
TV WINNERS CIRCLE WAVES..THYE BOTH SEEM SINCERE
BOUT SAVING HORSES AND BE INNCOCENT AND HONEST
MAYBE THEY WERE MISLED ..YES MISLED THTS THE WORD
THEY SEEM TO BE GOOD PEOPLE WITH ,,GOOD FAMILY VALUES..
IM JUST SYAIN
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THEY CRAWFORD HAVE YET TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT
GOOD PEOPLE
NICE FAMILY
,ALWAYS SOCIABLE,,
,,JUST ASKING
HOPEFULLY THEY SAY SOMETHING
EVEN IF ITS HELLO ..
THEY ARE GREAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAVED MANY HORSES FROM SLAUGHTER..
tmbz1
Michelle was expressionless, claims it was shock , in reality it was just the botox , not unlike her titties she is 100% fake
Next she's going to have horses with Harris and cassie and tell us , she didn't know
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I TEND TO LOOK AT THE BOTTLE HALF FULL
SOME TEND TO LOOK AT IT HALF EMPTY
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MY CHRISTIAN VALUES WILL GUIDE ME ,,
...I JUST THINK THEY DIDNT KNOW
IM JUST TAKING THEM AT THEIR WORD
AS GOOD PEOPLE AND GOD FEARING PEOPLE
THATS IT ,,
tmbz1
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I TEND TO LOOK AT THE BOTTLE HALF FULL
SOME TEND TO LOOK AT IT HALF EMPTY
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IM CHRISTIAN VALUES WILL GUIDE ME
...I JUST THINK THEY DIDNT KNOW
IM JUST TAKING THEM AT THEIR WORD
AS GOOD PEOPLE
You need to bottle and sell that shit you are smoking
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You need to bottle and sell that shit you are smoking
YEA WE DONT AGREE NO NEED TO INSULT tmbz1
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They might not of known about the mislabeled bottles of peds but they knew of Oakes and Surrick past violations
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They might not of known about the mislabeled bottles of peds but they knew of Oakes and Surrick past violations
CAN ANYONE IN LIFE REDEEM THEMSELVES
FROM PAST SIN..OR ARE THEY MARRED FOR LIFE
IM JUST ASKIN? FOR A FRIEND
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CAN ANYONE IN LIFE REDEEM THEMSELVES
FROM PAST SIN..OR ARE THEY MARRED FOR LIFE
IM JUST ASKIN? FOR A FRIEND
nick will not
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being god fearing people wont help these folks
what they should be is fed fearing
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being god fearing people wont help these folks
what they should be is fed fearing
9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg
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CAN ANYONE IN LIFE REDEEM THEMSELVES
FROM PAST SIN..OR ARE THEY MARRED FOR LIFE
IM JUST ASKIN? FOR A FRIEND
I hear what your saying luc and get your point. Surrick has less violations than Of the 2. Oakes seems to have yearly violations
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CAN ANYONE IN LIFE REDEEM THEMSELVES
FROM PAST SIN..OR ARE THEY MARRED FOR LIFE
IM JUST ASKIN? FOR A FRIEND
I don't think an adult who knowingly inflicted pain on an innocent animal, can ever be trusted with animals again. In that sense, yes, they are tarnished for life.
Can they redeem themselves. Sure, if they are truly remorseful. But I doubt any of these folks are.
They kept doing it, already knowing it caused pain and even death.
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Have you honestly ever heard someone spread as much bullshit than lucpark?
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Crawfords made public statements. Michelle only talked about Navarro. No mention of Surick or Oakes who set a world record for her. Al said that Navarro seemed like a nice guy and then compared him to Bernie Madoff. Also no mention of the standardbred involvement.
''THEY SEEM LIKE GOOD PEOPLE ON COMMERCIALS AND
TV WINNERS CIRCLE WAVES.
Now that's classic Luc. Lots to be learned about people's character with those examples
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Everyone thought Kevin Spacey was a great guy too. Then they find out hes a pedo. Next they are going to find out about Tom Hanks, Heidi Klum, and Eminem.
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Mr Rogers Tom Hanks??
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I think it would really hard to determine whether or not the horses recover. All this black type in the auction books I think is irrelevant now because of these gassed up sires and their offspring and there should be a lot of breeders held accountable because they knew what was going on and they IMO are as guilty as the chemist trainers. Again it all comes back to greed.
I have said for some time that the most important thing they could add to a yearling catalog page would be the name of the trainer when mare took her mark. We are seeing counterfeit mares already.
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there should be a lot of breeders held accountable because they knew what was going on and they IMO are as guilty as the chemist trainers.
Breeders …. I seem to remember one farm who employed Josh and Traci for years as their head trainers and then in 2018 and 2019 a guy named Dowse. A NY based operation as I remember.
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Mr Rogers Tom Hanks??
Mite wanna check out Sarah Ruth Ashcrafts claims. At first i didnt believe it, then Heidi klum is named in an Epstein deposition. Then Eminem has pictures with Rachel Chandler (not her real name) who posts pics to instagram of kids in druid garb in the temple at Epstein island as well as pics of her with Bill Clinton on the Lolita Express.
Is it a coincidence they are all coming down with the coronavirus or is that an excuse to keep them under lockdown for the upcoming trials?
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I wonder if the charges against Rene will stop him from being the guest speaker at this years. Summerside PEI harness banquet. on April 11th
They love Rene. (and Simon).....and the night is almost sold out.
One of my friends in PEI...bought 2 tables..........h e loves Rene....after meeting him at the Cup and Saucer.......wher e he bought rounds and rounds of drinks for everybody
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I wonder if the charges against Rene will stop him from being the guest speaker at this years. Summerside PEI harness banquet. on April 11th
They love Rene. (and Simon).....and the night is almost sold out.
One of my friends in PEI...bought 2 tables..........h e loves Rene....after meeting him at the Cup and Saucer.......wher e he bought rounds and rounds of drinks for everybody
It's not hard to be generous with easy money
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i dont think the shackles are long enough to reach PEI
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I know people who were very close to John Gotti. They told me there wasn't a more friendly guy. Sometimes, when he would leave a restaurant, he would pick up the tab for everyone else there without them knowing until they were ready to pay. The point being, nice person does not equate to law abiding person. Rene Allard is a flat out criminal and needs to pay for his actions.
If physical labour was required to earn his money he wouldn't toss it around so frivilously
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They will never get these guys out of the business , they have too many associates on both side of the border
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i think the fine folks of PEI realize the error they made and will distance from it very quickly
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He will be barred from PEI.
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Breeders …. I seem to remember one farm who employed Josh and Traci for years as their head trainers and then in 2018 and 2019 a guy named Dowse. A NY based operation as I remember.
Bluechip sure did/does.
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a few weeks before rene allard was to guest speaker in april in prince edward island another announcement came. Announcement that very skilled eastern canadian driver gilles barrieau was gonna be fulltime in pei this upcoming season..a very skilled performer....
Wondering from a distance if rene had 'stock' plans for gilles and other top drivers there this year, though purses there, outside a handful of races, wouldn't really be that enticing to our newest arrestee. Possibly r.a. was just coming for a speech and some drinks...or (just damn the purses, perhaps in hindsight, intentions for r.a. were to find another 'more out of the way' place to 'testdrive' some more 'chem' for u.s. t'bred friends.
but oops..jig is up...we'll never know.
and now ..nobody has any clue whats next.
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Please don't associate Gilles Barrieau with Allard who has never used him on any of his horses in the Gold Cup races. I know Gilles personally and he is all class and besides he has been the leading drive there for years when he drove full time. HE hasn't raced full time there in a few years hence the announcement.
I was here when he won the Gold Cup on horrible weather night beating Allard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrQ_SxRGCKc
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CAN ANYONE IN LIFE REDEEM THEMSELVES
FROM PAST SIN..OR ARE THEY MARRED FOR LIFE
IM JUST ASKIN? FOR A FRIEND
What is the first thing a judge will look for in determining a defendant's potential for redemption?
11.bz No!
Remorse.
Has any of these guys or past horse racing criminals shown any true remorse for their crimes? 91zxa.1
I'm guessing no and I doubt they will come to god anytime soon. 68xv.2
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Muletrain....
I love gilles barrieau in the bike. very skilled.
solid stand up guy lots years. Looking forward to alot of battles w campbell, etc..
Just a case of allard the snake getting an invite down there...which is hard to believe to start with, considering his checkered past and present.
regardless..u.s. authorities banged him hard..and should be enough to stay the hell away from barrieau and any other top pei performers there. No telling what this character's plans, if any, were.
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Please don't associate Gilles Barrieau with Allard who has never used him on any of his horses in the Gold Cup races. I know Gilles personally and he is all class and besides he has been the leading drive there for years when he drove full time. HE hasn't raced full time there in a few years hence the announcement.
I was here when he won the Gold Cup on horrible weather night beating Allard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrQ_SxRGCKc
He trained and drove a 3 year old for Allard last year
Wasn’t in his name but it was his
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I just can't figure out how team Allard is going to get that tray of shooters thru the steel bars to their hero????
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I just can't figure out how team Allard is going to get that tray of shooters thru the steel bars to their hero????
That is a very legitimate concern. I guess they will pass them in one at a time. I would think at the very least, Allard will never be licensed again or allowed back into the USA when he is eventually deported. Although this is harness racing, stranger things have happened.
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Allard is finally toast . He is done in the United States period .
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When are their first appearances?
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Next monday mar 23. If cvirus doesnt delay
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Does Dolores go down also? Surely her phone calls were monitored by the FBI ?
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Does Dolores go down also? Surely her phone calls were monitored by the FBI ?
Does she go down? That bitch will go down on her knees for anyone
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Isn't Allard one of the trainers that Brett Revington was hiding positives for when he was the director of harness racing in pennsylvania? What happened to Revington? Rumor and only rumor says he moved back to Canada when the feds started asking too many questions?/It seems like there could be some truth to that rumor now I guess..
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Isn't Allard one of the trainers that Brett Revington was hiding positives for when he was the director of harness racing in pennsylvania? What happened to Revington? Rumor and only rumor says he moved back to Canada when the feds started asking too many questions?/It seems like there could be some truth to that rumor now I guess..
He bought the house next door to Allards in PEI
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Had some unfavorable dealings with Revington from his Pompano days! Always felt that he was a cancer thus my surprise when he rose to such prominence in Pennsylvania!
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I always thought he was great to deal with. It is a bit of a thankless position.
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You know these guys didnt just stumble on this mess.
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You know these guys didnt just stumble on this mess.
Whoever it was they deserve an award
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someone was in deep trouble for something and sold out all of these guys .
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Nicky..He's the common denominator in this..
You'll see he'll get off easy peasy.
I'm sure he worked a deal before this even went public!
tmbz1
They wouldn't have a CI as an indicted party...especiall y the ones with the most counts against them. A "rat" wouldnt be obstructing justice either by destroying evidence.
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Next monday mar 23. If cvirus doesnt delay
Most court cases are being delayed. Only emergency situations are being held right now.
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Well I’m sure someThing will come out at some point of who the rat fink was .
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Would you expect anything else in this industry friends are hard to come by an trusting anyone anymore even harder!!!!! Plus newer generation just blatantly dont care!!!!!!
An there horsemen skills are never up to par like the previous gen!!!!!!
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I really don’t know how deep they have Allard tough to gauge . Hopefully he will never see our soils again after this .
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I really don’t know how deep they have Allard tough to gauge . Hopefully he will never see our soils again after this .
I think that is a given. Although we don't want him back in Canada either.
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I think that is a given. Although we don't want him back in Canada either.
PEI can have him
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What do good us lawyers cost these days??
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MOST STATE, LOCAL AND FEDERAL COURTS ARE CLOSED UNTIL MID-APRIL. THEREFORE, THIS CASE AS THE OTHER INDICTED WILL HAVE SOME TIME BETWEEN COURT DATES. THEREFORE, NOTHING HAS STOPPED OR DISAPPEARED---IT HAS BEEN SLOWED BY A TRUE NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
I JUST CHECKED WITH THE VARIOUS COURTS AND ALL JURY TRIALS HAS BEEN POSTPONED THRU APRIL 15, INCLUDING THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK.
THIS IS ONLY A DELAY OF MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES---BUT, THIS CASE WILL RESUME AS THE OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES ARE RESOLVED.
SAFETY FOR YOUR FAMILY AND THE FAMILIES OF ALL IS NOW THE IMPORTANT ISSUES WE ALL NEED TO DEAL!
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Wonder what brother Semen driving average will drop to?
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ON WALL STREET WE SAY "WHAT GOES UP......COMES DOWN, FASTER!"
IN THIS SITUATION -----THE ALLEGED CRIMINALS WILL FACE REALITY MUCH QUICKER AND SOONER THAN THEY THINK. THE HARDEST PART FOR THE CHARGED WILL BE FACING THE FACT THAT THEIR LIVES HAVE CHANGED AND WILL NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER RECOVER TO WHAT IT WAS PRE-ARREST. A FELONY CONVICTION CHANGES YOUR LIFE FOREVER AND UNFORTUNATELY THE LIVES OF ALL OF YOUR INNOCENT FAMILY MEMBERS. COLLATERAL DAMAGE TO THE FAMILIES OF THE CHARGED.
REALITY WILL SET IN. IT TAKES TIME BUT REALITY WILL SET IN----MANY CRIMINALS WILL NOT ACCEPT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND FACE THE TURMOIL OF WHAT IS TO COME UNTIL THE FIRST THREE MONTHS IN FEDERAL PRISON AND THEN THEY REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY DID DESTROYED THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.
REALITY......IT WILL CATCH UP WITH EVERY CRIMINAL.....BUT IT TAKES TIME. THE LOFTY WEALTH CREATED BY THESE ILLEGAL ACTIONS WILL DISAPPEAR RAPIDLY.
THE TRUTH IS----THESE CHARGES HAVE AND WILL FOREVER CHARGE THE ACCUSSED LIVES----FOREVER AND EVER UNTIL THE END OF TIME.
THIS IS FEDERAL AND THEIR WILL NOT BE ANY GIFTS.
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Counselor:
You speak so well in words. Are you currently involved in Harness Racing? You would be a great fit to sit on a state's board to make things better for harness racing.
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counselor would never be allowed to be on a racing comission. they all would be afraid he would want to punish the criminals.
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AKA lets get the money before they do ...
THIS FROG SHOULD BE LOCKED UP. ARROGANT. DISHONEST. LIAR. SCAMMER. PEOPLE LIKE HIM AS HE IS GENEROUS WITH HIS MONEY. WHY SHOULDN'T HE BE ITS BASICALLY DIRTY MONEY. GET BACK TO QUEBEC SON.
DOES GURAL HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALL THIS STUFF/
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SMALLTOWNTHROWDOWN Open trotter - he's earned over $41,000 so far in '20 with a win in 1:56h at Yonkers. Part of a large, quality racehorse reduction offering as "we dissolve partnerships" . Call Rene at number above or Bruce at 614-975-0685.
"we dissolve partnerships" correct wording should be " offering as my life dissolves" ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Who's Bruce
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Who's Bruce
bruce is one of his owners
he needs to get his story straight i called him and he lied directly to me
and he is currently buying back many of the horses
the shadyness around this is full blown
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bruce is one of his owners
he needs to get his story straight i called him and he lied directly to me
and he is currently buying back many of the horses
the shadyness around this is full blown
let me reprahse...
he has bought back the big money ones that have been sold, as many are going as RESERVE NOT MET
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bruce is one of his owners
he needs to get his story straight i called him and he lied directly to me
and he is currently buying back many of the horses
the shadyness around this is full blown
Wouldn't it be sweet justice if those indicted has to pay huge fines that went directly into a horsemen fund to aid those affected by no racing
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Yes , Bruce is either buying out Allard and giving horses to other trainers hence Springsteen to Pelling . Western Fame has a 200k reserve
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WESTERN FAME DIDNT MEET RESERVE BOUGHT BACK
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WESTERN FAME DIDNT MEET RESERVE BOUGHT BACK
can you ever be right about anything?????
you would call the winner wrong of a 1 horse race....
western fame was one were rene was bought out not where the reserve wasnt met
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Bruce is just letting the market dictate the horses value and buying out Rene on the good ones and giving them to other top trainers .
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can you ever be right about anything?????
you would call the winner wrong of a 1 horse race....
western fame was one were rene was bought out not where the reserve wasnt met
YEA I KNOW TO DISSOLVE A PARTNERSHIP
BUT THE RESERVE OF 200K WASNT MET
OR BRUCE LETS HORSE GO
JUSTA FACT,,YES IM SURE THEY HAD GUYS BIDDIN TO GET PRICE UP
BIG DEAL
BRUCE WAS BUYIN HORSE BACK,,
IM IN THE PROCESS OF BUYIN ONE FROM
R.A.
WAS ON THE FONE WITH HIM AND BRUCE HR AGO WANNA VERIFY CALL THEM BOTH
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Yup and ol sears will be driving them tmbz1
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Big Deal Luc
Your a Big Shot !!!!
Talking to those Scum bags
No Geldings , Erv's wife likes Studs
NO IM NOT
I WAS POINTING OUT TO PUPRLE
I KNEW WHO BOUGHT UIT BACK BUT RESERVE WAS NEVER MET SO THEY NHAD NO CHOICE
,,YES BRUCE WAS NEEVR LOSING THE HORSE WE KNEW THAT
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their simply taking renes name off papers so horses can race under hidden ownership
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Years ago I remember a Professional golfer name Bruce Saulsby. Is this the same person that is buying back the better horses off Allard?
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Yes that is him . Then he developed off site betting sites and sold them for huge money . Best friends with Brian Sears and George Brennan. Who both love to golf with Bruce .
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My wish is that none of those horses run again. Not due to health, but due to restrictions.
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My wish is that none of those horses run again. Not due to health, but due to restrictions.
YOU REALLY ARE A DUMBASS
HORSES WILL RACE AGAIN SOLD TO OTHERS OR BOUGHT BACK BY PARTNERS LOOKIN TO BUY RENE OUT
THEY HAVE A 60 DAY DETENTION AND COMPLETE CK BY TRACK VET
,,PLS REFRAIN FROM POSTIN THKS
PLOP ADVISERS
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Years ago I remember a Professional golfer name Bruce Saulsby. Is this the same person that is buying back the better horses off Allard?
Most likely buybacks for Allard and change of ownership on paper. My guess of course but someone else told me that.
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Springsteen is already over here at Pellings barn .
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"HORSES WILL RACE AGAIN SOLD TO OTHERS "
Lucpark .... I never said they wouldn't. I said I wished they wouldn't.
We all know where you stand.
Your level of integrity is zero.
You don't give a shit about doing the right thing.
If you can make a buck, you're in.
I'm sure your handshake is limp and has a commitment life of 20 seconds.
Carry on. I would never travel in a circle anywhere near yours.