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Title: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 15, 2020, 10:36:12 PM
Yonkers still hasn't smartened up and given a consolation payout for 4 out of 5 when no one hits 5 out of 5 in The Pick 5. This makes absolutely no sense at all. They would still have a heck of a carry over and it would get more handle because people would make more entries and include more long shots if they were going to get a consolation payoff. Hack the Meadowlands Pace four out of five, even when someone it's 5 out of 5, and that's only a $0.20 bet. Smarten up Yonkers already. I wrote about this years ago. No one is going to play long shots in big tickets if they can't get a consolation for at least getting something back for picking three $30 horses. And being treated the same as someone who hit none of them.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Superfecta on February 16, 2020, 08:51:40 AM
Nobody is playing extra tickets for a consolation prize. Instead of complaining, why don't you play the extra tickets and just take down the entire pool with the single winning ticket and 4 out of 5 won't be an issue. ;D
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 16, 2020, 10:25:09 AM
Nobody is playing extra tickets for a consolation prize. Instead of complaining, why don't you play the extra tickets and just take down the entire pool with the single winning ticket and 4 out of 5 won't be an issue. ;D

you are too dumb but ill explain

exacta take 2....pick 5 takes FIVE
higher level of difficulty...
much higher
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Calhoun on February 16, 2020, 10:36:08 AM
you are too dumb but ill explain

exacta take 2....pick 5 takes FIVE
higher level of difficulty...
much higher
At Gulfstream yesterday, the two pick-5's .... 4 out of 5 paid:

$17.75    (5/5 paid $1,200)

$2.20      (5/5 paid $115)

Are you truly sobbing over not getting this back? 

Me?  I'm looking forward to tomorrows $16k carryover,


Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 16, 2020, 10:44:02 AM
At Gulfstream yesterday, the two pick-5's .... 4 out of 5 paid:

$17.75    (5/5 paid $1,200)

$2.20      (5/5 paid $115)

Are you truly sobbing over not getting this back? 

Me?  I'm looking forward to tomorrows $16k carryover,

no......
im saying when the 5 out of 5 ISNT HIT
because its LONG PRICES
that someone should get something for at least getting 4 out of 5, considering how hard that is when longshots come in...


here is the kicker...even if a consolation had been paid...for like 20 percent of the pot...the carryover would still be well over 10k
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Superfecta on February 16, 2020, 09:19:19 PM
Learn how to handicap so you won't have to come on here and whine like a bitch all the time shit for brains.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 16, 2020, 09:50:31 PM
Learn how to handicap so you won't have to come on here and whine like a bitch all the time shit for brains.

you are a moron...
it has nothing to do with learning how to handicap
if im theonly person in the entire country that hits 4 of 5 how does that imply that i need to learn how to handicap

im guessing you are a trump fan?

facts and logic are irrelivant to you....that was the dead giveaway
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: NJ The best on February 16, 2020, 09:52:40 PM
I agree I have hit 4 out of 5 many nights and wouldn’t mind at least getting my initial investment back or close to it , I’m sure I would bet it right back the next night and some .
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on February 16, 2020, 09:54:15 PM
I just dont bet into horrible wagers where there is no minor pool payout for most winning combinations.  Imagine hitting 5/6 on a pick 6 in Southern California and not getting paid  73cv.2
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 16, 2020, 09:55:28 PM
I agree I have hit 4 out of 5 many nights and wouldn’t mind at least getting my initial investment back or close to it , I’m sure I would bet it right back the next night and some .

ding ding ding
why shdould someone who picks 4 30 dollar winners, and is the only one to do so , be treated the same as someone who played 5 favorites and didnt hit any of them....
makes no sense
not only does it make no sense, but they are hurting themselves handle wise...
NO ONE is going to play any REAL coverage tickets without a consolation for 4 out of 5 IF NO ONE HITS 5...
obviously if someone hits 5 of 5 then no consolation...but if no one hits 5 of 5 that means it was a hard sequence and someont that just missed by 1 should get some kind of reward
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 16, 2020, 09:56:02 PM
I just dont bet into horrible wagers where there is no minor pool payout for most winning combinations.  Imagine hitting 5/6 on a pick 6 in Southern California and not getting paid  73cv.2

some real gamblers actually get it...
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: chief yogi on February 16, 2020, 10:08:45 PM
i dont invest much into all or nothing wagers. i think tracks handle would go up if they paid a consolation. unless a big carryover it seems stupid to invest a lot to win a few grand or come out with zero. i dont mind investing in the old pick 6's. big pot to winner but come close with a few longshots in there you could still make money. just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 16, 2020, 10:47:04 PM
i dont invest much into all or nothing wagers. i think tracks handle would go up if they paid a consolation. unless a big carryover it seems stupid to invest a lot to win a few grand or come out with zero. i dont mind investing in the old pick 6's. big pot to winner but come close with a few longshots in there you could still make money. just my thoughts.


Yes. Like a superfecta, If someone hits it then no consolation, but if no one hits it it means that no one hits it for a reason and there's a lot of long shots. So someone who had all The Longshots, but one should be rewarded. Better for the gamblers better for the company because it will generate more handle. But you morons who just want to hate will never get it.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Calhoun on February 18, 2020, 02:16:38 PM
no......
im saying when the 5 out of 5 ISNT HIT
because its LONG PRICES
that someone should get something for at least getting 4 out of 5, considering how hard that is when longshots come in...


here is the kicker...even if a consolation had been paid...for like 20 percent of the pot...the carryover would still be well over 10k
To each his own.  But the smartest gamblers want their money in when there is +EV or damn close to it... which is the carryover pool.   And whatever makes the C/O higher, I'm all for.  I know New Jersey pays 4/5, at least Monmouth. 
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Brown jug on February 18, 2020, 02:56:37 PM
fyi
horse racing is called GAMBLING, not investing
what do you want a dividend back on your investment
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on February 18, 2020, 05:29:38 PM
To each his own.  But the smartest gamblers want their money in when there is +EV or damn close to it... which is the carryover pool.   And whatever makes the C/O higher, I'm all for.  I know New Jersey pays 4/5, at least Monmouth.

Meadowlands and Monmouth pay 4/5 on every pick 5 no matter if 5/5 is hit or not. Gulfstream does that same.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 18, 2020, 10:27:58 PM
Meadowlands and Monmouth pay 4/5 on every pick 5 no matter if 5/5 is hit or not. Gulfstream does that same.

I think that's taking it a little far but given they pay four out of five. Even when someone hits four out of five. You can see why it would make sense to pay four out of five. If no one hits five out of five because that means it was incredibly difficult to get 5 of 5. So even hitting 4 of 5 would have been quite a feat. And it should at least get something.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Zippychippy423 on February 19, 2020, 08:46:38 AM
Saratoga Harness is the same way....so I found out the hard way last year. I played a ticket close to 100.00 and landed a 5-1,10-1 and 40-1 in the sequence only to fall short and hit 4/5. Of course nobody hit the pick 5 pool of about 6k.  I surely thought I would have gotten a healthy consolation for picking 4/5 but nada, nothing, zilch. From that point on I have never placed a bet with Saratoga Harness. Never again. My fault for not knowing the rules of the bet though.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 19, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
Saratoga Harness is the same way....so I found out the hard way last year. I played a ticket close to 100.00 and landed a 5-1,10-1 and 40-1 in the sequence only to fall short and hit 4/5. Of course nobody hit the pick 5 pool of about 6k.  I surely thought I would have gotten a healthy consolation for picking 4/5 but nada, nothing, zilch. From that point on I have never placed a bet with Saratoga Harness. Never again. My fault for not knowing the rules of the bet though.

I feel your pain the same thing happened to me at Yonkers a year ago. I had three. $40 horses in one sequence $40 horses in one sequence And I actually hit four out of five and got nothing and I actually think I was the only one to even have three out of five. It was my fault for not knowing the rules I guess. But since then I haven't played it.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on February 19, 2020, 04:45:51 PM
Meanwhile you have a $203,727 late pick 5 carryover at Gulfstream on Thursday which might hit close to $1 million with new money.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 19, 2020, 05:18:13 PM
And what did four out of five pay? Obviously the carryover wasnt hurt by them paying before out of five.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on February 19, 2020, 06:04:25 PM
And what did four out of five pay? Obviously the carryover wasnt hurt by them paying before out of five.

146.85 for .50

319,602 total pool with 203,727 carryover.
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on February 20, 2020, 08:15:01 PM
2.5 million dollar pool today. On a Thursday, with all claiming races.


$2,768.45 .50 cent payout for sequences of 6.60, 15.40, 13.20, 5.60, 8.40.

Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on February 20, 2020, 10:25:08 PM
Oh look, a harness track that gets it exactly right. No carryover for 4/5. Complete payout.

(https://i.imgur.com/g6lo3i7.png)
Title: Re: Yonkers STILL doesnt have a consolation for 4 of 5 in pick 5
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on February 20, 2020, 11:23:54 PM
Not bad a thousand dollars for a $0.20 bet. That goes To show how hard it is to hit four out of five certain nights and that it should definitely be rewarded.
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